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    Posted: 28 November 2006 at 9:27am
I had assumed, when TTC wasn't working and I had my surgery and learned that things weren't so good for us, that the next step would be fertility treatment. Last night though, with my period looming *again*, I raised 'the next step' and when we'd take it - and it turns out, DH and I not on the same page.

We've talked about infertility and treatment, and I knew that, at this stage, he doesn't want to look at IVF. I was quite surprised that he is against first stage fertility treatment as well, and he's obviously been giving it some thought.

It's a development I wasn't expecting, and it's given me a lot to think about. I'm really not entirely sure how I feel about it at *all*. To be honest, I'm probably a bit shocked. I think that with time he may come to terms with fertility treatment, but it will take time.

Wow!
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How do you guys feel about fostering/adoption instead? I think people are either 100% happy or 100% unhappy with those ideas but just another thing to throw in. Hope you do get your wish someday though, the emotional rollercoaster must be really hard for you.
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wow, that would be a...surprise. Why is he againest? is it a reason that may cahnge once he's had more time to get used to it, or a reason that will never change (e.g. religious reasons)? We are here for you though, if you need to vent!
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Thanks both of you

I don't know that *he* knows entirely, which is probably why *I* don't know either! He likes to think through every aspect of something before talking about it - especially so that he can talk about it in a way that I'll understand his position, and not just think "AARRGGGHHH!!!" ...and I think I raised fertility treatment before he'd finished mulling it over every which way. I think he is thinking about what we've been through so far, and what we still may have to go through, and how hard it's been, and I think that he just wants to have our lives back - you know, move forward and plan for things that *will* happen. Hopefully he'll talk some more when he's ready.
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Hey Ginger. Im sorry to hear of the situation you and your Dh are finding yourselves in. A friend of mine is trying this treatment

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Apparently its worked for lots of women and its relativly cheap too.

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big hugs Ginger, that would be a difficult situation to swallow, but from my experience (of course it can be different for all of us), my DH came around and in the end totally supported fertility treatment. When your DH sees how much this means to you, he may be able to swallow his fears and move on. You can only take these things day by day.
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Pardon the terrible joke, but you're quite right Lou ...it's very much 'baby' steps with these DH's of ours!!

Whatever happens though, damned if I'm going to give up yet
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And thank you Angelnz - I really appreciate the link! I think I'm going to have to arm myself with information for DH in the coming months!
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Hiya Ginger,

My DH and I spent 2 years TTC my now 7 month old, the 2 longest years of my life!  I dont know much about endo, I have PCOS and wasnt ovulating at all.  We did 7 rounds of clomid which was ok for DH as it didnt *really* involve him, only doing his bit at the right time lol!  We spent alot of money seeing a specialist from wellington and our next step was injectables, which scared the crap outta me, and definelty DH!  Personally I think it was easier for him to say throw in the towel than to go through (and watch me go through) any more heartache!  What are your options for fertility treatment?  I know my DH wouldnt even discuss IVF at the time, it seemed like such a big thing, although I would have done ANYTHING!  Good luck to you, if I can answer any clomid or injectable questions for you I would be happy to help!

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Thanks for that KiwiMummy ...Basically, my (endo) specialist said that if we're not pg by the new year she would refer me to Fertility Associates for the next stage. I'm not too sure what *their* first step would be though. I had assumed fertility medication. I think you hit the nail on the head though - DH would rather say stop than see me break every cycle. Plus, I think it is easier to cope with saying 'enough' yourself, than for it to be out of your control, and having to acknowledge that you just cannot conceive.

Funny story - I gently reminded DH that with endo, I couldn't really *do* the waiting game ...and bless him, he said to me "You could just have the surgery again, and then we can do it." I said "Do what?" and he said "Can't they do the IVF while they're in there?" What can you do?
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Sounds like a typical male to me! One day out of the blue he will start talking about it after he's mulled it all over - thats what mine is like anyway. Good luck and I hope everything works out for you guys soon
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Hey I just wanted to send big hugs to you!

I hope you DH does come around soon, just remember....keep communicating!! Arming yourself with plenty of info is a good idea...he may be more freaked out about the process than anything else.

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Aww chicka i hope he comes round it just sounds like he needs to be educated on what happens. I would think that IVF would be a last resort. Let him know that if u go on clomid it has a good rate of success! I was successful first round and some people after 3 rounds.
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Also I just thought I'd add some more ammo for you when you are talking to DH... If you do end up considering the IVF route, in our case DH hasn't really had to be involved too much at all. I was lucky enough to have next to no side effects from the drugs, so I was not irritable or anything. The only time that DH had to turn up was once when we signed the consent forms and yesterday he had to provide his 'sample' and hold my hand during egg collection. That was it!
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That's great to know Lou ...thank you!

Having given this quite a bit of thought, I actually think the problem for DH is that he hasn't acknowledged yet that we may not be able to do this by ourselves, and so until it becomes an issue, it's not an issue for him. Do you know what I mean? But, I'll collect all my ammo and see how he's feeling in a few months if we're still unsuccessful.
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Yup, totally know what you mean. My DH kept saying 'it will happen' and I know that he was trying to be supportive. However once we found out it was a male fertility issue then there was no barriers in the way to proceeding with fertility treatment. There was no argument.
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Just quietly, I hve a little hope for this month. Well, hope in the sense that it's not *impossible*.

I don't have a triphasic chart, but I also have barely any period symptoms. I know that the surgery may well have kicked in and that's why, but I'm am just storing up a wee bit of hope because it's different. I also have an increasing amount of CM (TMI I'm sorry...) and my body is producing extra mucus all round at the moment. Of course, it's more likely that it's just a cold trying to come on Also on the TMI front, I've had some cramping, but not a lot, and also what seems a lot like vaginal aching. It's the only way to describe it.

When I woke up this morning (well, at 4.30am) my first thought was "I'm going to be sick" and managed to hold it off by deep breathing and lying *really* still ...and it wasn't so bad when I got up properly at 6am, and then passed over the next half hour or so. I thought to myself "If I'm going to get morning sickness, I could at *least* be pregnant!!". Ha! *Sigh*

I'll keep y'all posted. And I'm not kidding myself - I have my period-emergency kit in my handbag
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I will be honest Ginger, that thought has gone through my mind this montha bout you too...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ginger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2006 at 2:57pm
Ha! Hehe I'd no sooner posted the above crappola and I started getting this rather odd feeling downstairs ...sort of like cramps, but it doesn't hurt.

*Gasp*

I wonder .....

Maybe ......

Just maybe .....

..........

I'm finally having a *normal* period!

Hehe
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OH Yay!!! That is so great, no Pain!!!
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