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    Posted: 01 November 2009 at 7:27pm
I am currently working with a Fertility Clinic. I have had 3 mc's - the first was from a natural conception (at 6 weeks), the 2nd from my first IUI with the FClinic (at 6 weeks), and the 3rd from my 3rd IUI with the FClinic (at 13 weeks).

I have just had my 4th IUI and it is negative. I am about to undergo my 5th, and at the moment my visits are more frequent due to all the monitoring I have.

It's completely demoralising going through all of this. But what is making it really worse for me, and my partner, is when we sit in the waiting room at the Clinic and there is a happy couple in there with a baby or young child. My guess is that they are there because they want another child, and perhaps the first was conceived with help from the Clinic. So wouldn't you think that these parents would and SHOULD be a bit more sympathetic to those of us who CAN'T conceive or see a pregnancy through? I am just baffled by this!

If I had a child, and wanted another and was visiting the FERTILITY CLINIC, I would arrange a babysitter for that time! It's not a DOCTOR'S SURGERY or the DENTIST'S, it's a FERTILITY CLINIC so I think people should be a bit more courteous.

Maybe these people conceived and carried through to the end on their first attempt and don't know what it's like for those of us who can't get any joy either way.

But SURELY common sense should prevail? It's not always easy to guess other people's situations, but there are two words that should spell it out quite simply...

FERTILITY CLINIC

I am interested in other people's thoughts

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2009 at 7:53pm
Just to defend the other side - my very good friend went thru 3 mc's while TTC her second and ended up going to the fertility clinic. She HAD to take her child as neither of them have family here and all her good friends (including myself) worked full time so she didn't have a choice. She was really aware of the fact that she was taking a child to somewhere that others were struggling to get one but as I say had no other options.

They were in no way being intentionally mean!

I can understand where you are coming from and so could my friend.
       
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2009 at 8:09pm
I am sure they weren't intending to be 'intentionally mean' but I still think it's a bit of a 'rub it in our face' kind of situation. I can't even visit one of my SIL's cause her baby is 10 weeks old, and I lost my last one 8 weeks ago. And my other SIL is 24 weeks preg, and if I was still preg I would be 20 weeks. I go to the supermarket, shopping malls, stores and KNOW I will bump into mothers and babies, but that's expected, I go there to SHOP. I don't expect to be in that situation at a Fertility Clinic, that's where I go to sort out MY fertility, so it's a one-focus situation that I can't avoid by going into a different aisle or shop to get away from it if it bothers me.

I do understand what you are saying but honestly, if it were me, I would hire a babysitter just for that short time, or make my appointment while my child was in childcare, or when a friend could babysit (they do do after hours consults). Please don't think I am picking on your friend, I am not, and I know everyone's circumstances are different, but I just think it's very insensitive taking a baby to a Fertility Clinic given that the Clinic is for people who are having problems with FERTILITY.

Perhaps these Clinics should have a 'parents room' set aside for parents who just can't find anyone to care for their child for that hour. Perhaps I will suggest it!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2009 at 8:49pm
Fully understand what you are saying and why it would bother you so don't think I am attacking you but at the same time you need to be reasonable and realise that while it appears easy to get "childcare" for you that is not always the case.

It is an extremely sensitive issue and I know how you feel to a degree - I lost a twin early in my last pregnancy and right thru the preg and even now I get a bit funny about twin pregnancy's around me etc so I am in no way being callous.
       
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2009 at 8:53pm
Peanut I don't think you are attacking me personally. But I do think I AM being reasonable when it is a FERTILITY clinic involved. I don't know which way to look, and I am fighting back tears while trying to engross myself in a magazine because there is no escape until I get my appointment called! I feel like a trapped animal would.

Sorry to hear about your loss, I can imagine you feel as I do when I see my SIL who is 4 weeks more pregnant than I 'would' be at the moment and also my other SIL who has a 10 week old baby and I lost mine 8 weeks ago - (((hugs))) to you over this one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2009 at 8:59pm
Just a thought - can you ask to be scheduled late in the day? If you are last in the day hopefully you could avoid seeing others with kids - I know thats not that helpful but just a thought!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2009 at 9:04pm
The last visit I had was at 4.45pm and they shut at 5.30pm unless by prior arrangement for a later appointment... another was at 11.30am... I am afraid there is no escaping it but I think I will suggest a parent's room, or even if there are children in there perhaps I can request a waiting room away from them somehow. It's just too hard for me at the moment, time will heal but I haven't had the time yet.

I also attend a fertility support group and there are many people there who feel this way so maybe we should ask the organisers of this support group to contact the Clinic and explain our concerns/feelings.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2009 at 9:26pm
I just wanted to say that I know I am EXTREMELY lucky to have my daughter - but in saying that, we are having fertility problems with conceiving our second and I don't for a minute believe that what I (and my DH) are feeling, is any less painful than what you are going through. I have had 3 mc's this year and I so know how you are feeling when seeing babies/small children/pg people etc because I am feeling the same. Especially around whatever gestation/age you would have been. I haven't taken DD to any of my appointments - mainly because I want to be able to talk and listen to the spec without interruptions but we have an appt in a couple of weeks that I will have to take her to as I just don't have any other option. But I am seeing my specialist privately so he covers alot of "womens problems", not just infertility and the other times I have been, the waiting room normally has women over 50 waiting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2009 at 9:32pm
Thank you KH25 for understanding - I really do wish you the very best of luck. I have had 2 of my mc's this year, I can't even comprehend how hard 3 mc's would have been. (((Hugs))) to you and your family and I hope your next preg is a full-term healthy one :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 November 2009 at 9:15am

MaebeeBaby.... I fully agree with you.  After my unsuccessful IVF I had to go to the clinic for an appointment and was still fresh with grief and found it heartbreaking and difficult because there was a Mum with a toddler there and I wanted to burst into tears.   It was a reminder of what I desperately trying to have but battling to

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 November 2009 at 11:15am
I am really sorry to say this, but people who have one child and are desperate for another also suffer great pain and suffering. The fact they are in a fertility specialist waiting room reinforces that.
People have babies every day, and although you are struggling to conceive it is something you need to accept. Just as I have accepted it when I am struggling. Also, you don't know what efforts they have gone through to have that first child. It may have been years of trying and treatment, and they are gong through all the pain a second time to give their child a chance to have a brother and sister.

I have been trying to get pregnant with my second child for a year now. and if I go to see a specialist (which I think I will do soon), I will take my son with me as my family and friends all work during the day. I will not be doing it to be vindicitve, it is just practical.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 November 2009 at 11:30am
Hi MaebeeBaby. Firstly I can't even imagine how hard it must be for you. You have my biggest hugs. I've only been trying for 6 months now for our first baby so have not been to a fertility clinic and had to deal with anything like what you and many others are going through.
There are days when I walk down the street and all I see it's babies in strollers, toddlers, mums & dads all happy and content. It's heart warming but heartbreaking at the same time.
I can feel you emotions through your words I will promise you that should I ever need to go to a fertility clinic, I will not take along any kids. If I know of any friends that are going and taking any kids with them, I will kindly suggest they don't.
My thoughts are with you...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 November 2009 at 12:13pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 November 2009 at 12:18pm
when i was pregnant with my 2nd child i went thru the recurrent miscarriage clinic, as i did with my first... my husband and i had no choice but to take our son to some of these visits... i felt bad because the recurrent miscarriage clinic and the fertility clinic waiting room were the same room. but i wasnt going to leave, my so, my husband and i all had a right to be, just like every other person there.

i know that it is hard when you see other people having what you so desperately want and it feels like everything is going against you. But these women arent out to intentionally hurt or embarras or "rub it in".    some of those women have possibly had a harder road to travel than even you can imagine.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 November 2009 at 12:24pm
Originally posted by MaebeeBaby MaebeeBaby wrote:



And your comment, hila, 'struggling to conceive is something you need to accept' - I am sorry, but HOW DARE YOU. Why should I accept it?


actually what hila was saying is that ...

you need to accept that people have babies every day. i think it was a case of missing punctuation.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 November 2009 at 12:27pm
yes the clinic should be more aware, maybe its not practical though. Have you voiced your concerns to them?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 November 2009 at 12:31pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 November 2009 at 2:35pm
I struggle a bit when I see babies full stop, but I have to admit I don't'mind seeing them in the FA waiting rooms any more than I do anywhere else...

Actually, it gives me a bit of a lift in some ways - chances are that the parents struggled to have those kids, and proves that it's possible. That might not make entire sense (after all, they could be struggling with secondary infertility, the first could have been an oopsie for all I know), but I do assume that a bit.

When I have a baby, I'd take it along when we're trying for another one. I know its tough to see wee ones when you're struggling - hey, I'm there right now, I know how hard it is!! - but as I see it, that struggle is pretty much just life, and other people shouldn't have to re-arrange their lives round ours to quite that extent...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 November 2009 at 2:48pm

Well...  struggling to conceive is something that I have accepted... but I refuse to accept that I am infertile... call it denial or whatever.  

I am glad that this topic has been brought up....  so that there is an awareness as to how some women feel with the presence of children in the clinic, when she has just been through scores of injections and hormones and side effects and emotions with no pregnancy at the end of it all...

I don't have any objection for children in most usual places and truly adore them... but I think some sensitivity is needed for those in a place where baby dreams have been shattered.

 

 

 



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