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Hi redtulip, just realised I hadn't replied to you! We have been in WA for 3 years now, moving home at the end of August...tickets booked, its all go! very excited and can't wait to be back in the waikato.

wow charly, that is really interesting! sounds like you could really benefit from it.

I don't know of any practitioners to recommend in ChCh Tan, hoping someone else will be able to suggest someone?

I actually got some names from my practitioner here - one lady is based in Lower Hutt, not sure if she sees people but her name is Debra Betts - she writes books and articles that my practitioner recommends. The other is someone in Herne Bay Auckland who is meant to be amazing - her name is Margaret Morris. My practitioner actually worked with Margaret in Melbourne and said she is an absolute wealth of knowledge when it comes to TCM and fertility. Shes also a qualified naturopath and was a nurse for many years too...? very interesting.

I had a great session again today..everything is perfect, my pulse is great. Apparently all my pulse is asking for is ginger?? so thats an easy fix . If I'm not pregnant this month, things are looking really good for next month. now taking a lower dose of herbs for the next 2 weeks, next appt just before OV. acupuncture points for tonight were one in each earlobe, inside of knee/beside shinbone, and one below belly button.

How are everyone else's treatments going? Does anyone know of any great practitioners in the Waikato?
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I'm excited too see how the next few months go for you :) sounds promising!

I don't think Debra sees people :( I'm in her area though Welly/Lower Hutt ...I'm looking for a tried and true tcm expert here, pity she's semi retired (i think)
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i wonder if she could recommend someone? hopefully someone else will see this thread and contribute!
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I am going through acupuncture and chinese herbs at the moment. I have PCOS and have been going through FA for clomid for the past 3 years. I have had 3 miscarriages so we have decided to give acupuncture and chinese medicine a go. So far we are in the 'waiting' phase before starting to try - as he wanted us to leave it 3 months, so this is month 3.
So far I have seen some improvements in my AF, my sleeping, and he says that my kidney pulse is much better that it was which apparently is important for blood flow to the uterus.
Really hoping this helps as we have decided that this is the last chance for us - we can't keep going through the emotional toll and physical toll of MC's so its now or never for us
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So have just read back over the posts.... here is some additional info for you from my chinese man - he reckons that my big issue is my kidneys - which apparently has a big impact on fertility and the temperature and blood flow to the uterus.
The appointments cost $85 a session, and I am going once a week, then the herbs are on top of that, also I have a fertility oil from him that I need to use twice a day. We are lucky that my parents are paying for the sessions as after watching us go through our 3 soul destroying MCs they want to do something to help.
I tend to get needles in my....ankles, legs, knees, stomach, wrist, sometimes elbow, head, ears and forehead - basically a pin cushion. Must admit I HATE every minute of my appointments and can't wait to get out of there, but just have to keep reminding myself of the end goal.
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Well stick at the acupuncture and Chinese herbs ladies, 6 weeks of treatments and I just got my bfp! It's been 12 months of ttc and 9 months since a m/c, they got my blood flow back on track and sorted out my skin and its worked. Think I'm in a bit of shock!
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I think I'm sold on this acupuncture business! Now to find someone in Nelson!
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thats awesome news vineyard congrats!! Wishing you a happy healthy 9 months
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YAY VINEYARD THAT IS AWESOME NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Monkeys, I think we have similar issues, apparently my kidneys are causing the issues and I have issues with blood flow and cold.

I get needles in pretty much the same places as you! I have to say, my cycle is getting shorter and shorter (I typically have long ones) so I think it is working!

I saw mine last week and she said she wants to see me twice before ovulation next cycle to work really hard on making me ovulate earlier. Just when I was thinking about the cost she said I could have one of the appointments free ! Thank goodness!

So I have 3 appointments next cycle, and we have a Fertility Associates appointment on 15th August so it will be good to another good go at a BFP before that
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Hi everyone,
I think most of you know but i got a BFP 10 days ago (yay!) and will be 5 weeks tomorrow, the longest I have stayed pregnant!

I had an appointment last night and found it quite interesting. She felt my pulses and apparently there is one that indicates the level of HCG, she felt it for ages and said it feels really strong. She said generally she thinks my body is in a good state to support the pregnancy - here's hoping!!

She put needles in my ankles (to prevent miscarriage), my wrists and the very top of my head which was weird.

Anyway just wanted to update, hope everyone is well x
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Well my acupuncture/chinese doctor has given us the go ahead to try this month. I am a little excited after such a wait, and glad he thinks that my body is ready to give PG another go...but also rather nervous
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Yay monkeys!! Really crossing everything for you this cycle, I hope the acupuncture has done its job!
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Awesome Monkeys! Goodluck... I hope the BFP bug bites straight away for you!
I'm still seeing my acupuncturist weekly... just got back from seeing her an hour ago. I just feel alot calmer thinking that I am doing something else (other than the medication the RPL clinic have me on) to help this wee bean to stick. She makes me feel hopeful too - when i speak to her she'll say something like "when you're .... weeks we'll do ......" so it gives me hope that this time might be the one.
Hi Epic! And Vine if you're still lurking I hope you're doing really well
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Yay Monkeys! How exciting! We are needing to wait until at least November.

Red - I'm the same as you. I enjoy going and I feel really calm, like I am doing something good and worthwhile for my body. I feel a lot more accepting of this whole journey, more accepting than I have ever felt before.


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YAY Tans... so glad for you. 'Accepting of this journey' is the perfect way to describe it - makes such a difference to feel that way doesn't it.... so, so wish I had done this ages ago - but everything happens when it does for a reason. How often are you going? Nice to 'see' you
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Red - I am going once a week. I have herbal stuff to take too and heaps of vitamins! Bit of a walking pill bottle. DH and I have made the financial commitment to do this routine for 3 months and see if it makes a difference before TTC again. Nice to see your ticker clocking up the days! When is your scan?


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That's great tan, sure it'll make a difference. My ticker might be 2 days fast going by LMP lol! Won't bother changing it tho - will just see how we go.... didn't want to do serial hcgs but clinic nurse has asked me to do a couple, have done 4 in total. Last one on Monday was 9550 - up from 2075 the Monday before. When I rang her to check she paused then said it was 'ok' but that I needed to do another one this week 'especially because of levels last pregnancy' - I had to tell her that they were tracking fine right up until scans for the last 2 pregnancies and that that was the only way we knew I'd m/c'd both times, not because of hcg levels. She doesn't make me feel at ease at all... don't like talking to her TBH as I feel flat afterwards Looked at a couple of hcg calculators and I think they're normal? Anyway, acu lady thought they were fine. First scan is from 7 weeks but haven't got an appointment yet... so that'll be the real telling time. Anyway, sorry for vent, main point was to say that of everyone I've seen my acu lady seems to be the only one that really cares on a personal level.... and the pills can only help lol!
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Man, I hate medical professionals sometimes! They can be so clinical and fail to make people feel assured. Don't worry about the levels. I remember my doc saying that after about 3000 they become pretty unreliable, and slow down and then a scan is the best thing to go by. I will be praying for you!


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Red - You may have seen this link:

http://www.baby2see.com/preconception/hcg.html

It's really helpful. There is a table next to the hcg calculator that shows what the doubling time is according to the level. It says that between 1200 and 6000, the doubling time increases to something like 72 - 96 hours? So I think that sounds about right for where you are at. Positive thoughts coming your way. xx


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Thanks heaps Tans, always appreciate hearing your thoughts, thats what I read too so just going to try not worry and see what happens. Did another one today so will have to talk to her tomorrow... hopefully shes away and the relief nurse is there.... shes just lovely lol! Will let you know how things go xx
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