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My 2c would also not be moving to chch - I looked at moving there a few months ago and nice housing was hard/expensive to come by. But I know how crap it can be trapped at your parents in one room with a baby - would you compromise, move out to the outskirts where you can afford to live but close enough that bio dad can visit? And new bf fly to visit you instead? Would prob be cheaper since he could grabaseat etc and there is only one of him. Hope whatever you do works out for everyone involved.
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Originally posted by Babe Babe wrote:

Differing and honest opinions are fine, its the lack of tact and kindness that annoys me. Being purposefully blunt doesn't make things more interesting all it does is hurt peoples feelings - ALOT in some cases. Obviously this is a new concept for some of you considering what gets posted on these and other forums, but people don't actually think any better of you because you say what you think without any consideration for someone elses situation, feelings or needs. Theres alot more to the OPs situation than we can understand from one post because real life can't be melted down into 250 odd words so before you decide to be 'blunt' and 'honest' because its your forum-given right, consider the fact that often people are actually getting enough of that from the people in RL and all they're looking for is an ear, a shoulder and the typed equivalent of a hug.

There ya go thats my differing opinion that I get to share because this is an open forum and since this whole thread has totally missed the OPs point I don't care thats its so OT...


I don't see the point of turning this thread into something it is not...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Babe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 October 2011 at 4:20pm
Thats ok Jazzy I don't see the point in being unsupportive and unkind but I see it everywhere I look these days. I guess if I have to grind my teeth over posts that I think are unneccessary its only fair to give you the same opportunity

Plus the OP *was* looking for some support, not necessarily agreement with her views but some forum friendship, so I guess you could say the thread got turned into something it wasn't intended to be by everyone who decided to tell her/imply she was an irresponsible mother who wasn't prioritising her son and was being mean to her ex who is so obviously a committed father because of a sentence or two taken from her original post.
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Originally posted by jazzy jazzy wrote:

Originally posted by Babe Babe wrote:

There ya go thats my differing opinion that I get to share because this is an open forum and since this whole thread has totally missed the OPs point I don't care thats its so OT...


I don't see the point of turning this thread into something it is not...



Then perhaps you could read what I have to say and attempt to understand it rather than implying that I am a selfish, dole bludging bad mother.

For clarity, that sentence was aimed at more than just you, Jazzy. Your post was just the most recent, so easiest to quote.

Here is what I wanted from this thread;

Somewhere to put all my jumbled thoughts, feelings and fears at a time when I was feeling alone and vulnerable.
Maybe a couple of positive replies, not necessarily containing legal advice. Basically "That must suck, *hugs*"
If anyone had been in a similar situation, then sharing that experience would have been most welcome.
And the usual being pointed to CAB / legal aid.
I did expect that not everyone would agree with my desire to move, but I did not expect to be attacked for it. I'll know better next time I think I can rely on the kindness of strangers.

And this bit is probably the most important bit.
This is what I want, and what I hope to happen after I move. I'll even add supporting arguments.

I want to:
- Have somewhere to call home, big enough to raise a family in.
Rentals in Auckland are overpriced and for what is being charged for a tidy 2 bedroom unit with a patio up here, in Christchurch I could get a fully furnished 2 bedroom home with a decent sized (if not huge), fully fenced backyard. Or so my research leads me to believe.
- Provide a stable family environment for Caleb.
Living with my mother will do for now, but it is not what I want for my son. I want him to see a healthy relationship, because I believe it will help him have one himself one day. Another part of family is siblings, which has been discussed with Tyler, and we're not going to rule that out for a few years down the line.
- Marry the man of my dreams.
Which is a part of the previous point, but I thought that one was getting a bit long. I do realise that 7 months is not a long relationship, but I had actually known Tyler online for over 5 years when we met face to face in Feb. It has now been more than 6 years since we first spoke online. I think we know each other well enough.
- Provide good role models, including a wonderful step dad.
Tyler is everything I hope Caleb will be - Hard working, dedicated, passionate, honest, healthy and strongly against drug use. On top of that, his family and friends seem to be much the same.
- Continue to support a relationship with his biological father, who may be a terrible influence (regular drug user, campaigns for legalisation of pot, smoker, drinks heavily at social occasions from what I gather from the stories he tells, never walks anywhere, eats unhealthily, makes poor financial decisions, is gainfully UNemployed and has been since I was pregnant, as far as I can remember) but he does love his son. Ideally, visits would be every 10 weeks for 1 week. I believe that 10 weeks is long enough for a low income family to scrape $300 together, just, and short enough that Caleb will still know his father.

As it seems to have been missed or misread last time I said it, yes, I will be staying on the DPB down there. For a few weeks, while I sort myself out and arrange stopping it with WINZ, at which point Tyler and I can legally live together.

I hope I haven't missed anything important, but I think it's all there.
As this post has been sitting here for an hour, I should probably post it.
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Jelly, I have not attacked you & I never said you were a selfish, dole bludging bad mother & I would never say that to anyone.

If you wanted hugs & people to agree with you then you should of said that in the beginning & I would not of given you advise which I see you now don't want.

However one of my points were what happens if you get consent to move to CHCH on the agreement that you fly up every 8 weeks like you stated & then for what ever reason can not afford to do that...what happens then?... now that is just one of my concerns for you & after reading your posts there are a lot of concerns there.

I have friends who have been in situations like this & things have ended badly. 1 very close friend left her husband after being beaten for yrs, they sold the house she had his permission (verbal) to move out of Auckland & then several mths later he followed her & fought for custody, made her life hell, she had just put her money in to a little place for her & her son & got a part time job, where as he bought a $60k+ new car & went on a benefit. She is broke, he has shared custody so pays nothing to her & the child is sick all the time when he has him & she has huge lawyer bills, she moved to have a new life & felt even more trapped & alone...of course not saying this will happen to you but you need to look at all angles.

So Jelly if its hugs you want you got it, hope everything works out for you...but for god sake get legal advise.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Limochick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2011 at 2:30pm
I honestly can't believe some of the comments in this thread!! Jelly is a mum like us all who cares and adores her son. She wants to do what is best for them both. I think having a happy mother is an important thing and why should she give up her happiness!! I was in a similar situation and moved my oldest 2 boys away from there dad, he lives 6hrs drive away and yes it is hard but they love where we live and our lives!! I think have a separated family is hard enough without Jelly being unhappy!!

Hugs chick and do what will make you happy but I do agree that you should get an agreement written up!! I also think he should be going halves in airfares!!

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I agree with Limo. And definitely that he should help in airfares? Why shouldn't he?
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Originally posted by High9 High9 wrote:

And definitely that he should help in airfares? Why shouldn't he?


He is not the moving away. I would expect him to pay all travel costs if he was the one moving away.
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My ex and I go halves in all travel costs and I'm the one who moved away!!

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Originally posted by Limochick Limochick wrote:

My ex and I go halves in all travel costs and I'm the one who moved away!!


that great & the way most would do it, I am guessing he was ok with you going...not contesting it?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Limochick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2011 at 4:36pm
He apparently had the documents to stop me from going but never served me with them!! It isn't an easy road but for me I couldn't stay in the same town as him.

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Originally posted by Limochick Limochick wrote:

He apparently had the documents to stop me from going but never served me with them!! It isn't an easy road but for me I couldn't stay in the same town as him.


yeah I would think it would be hard for anyone in that situation, glad it worked out for you...
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