Crap. No O. But, an O question!

Wouldn't you know it? The month I find out about the PCOS, I don't ovulate. Well, not yet at least, according to Fertility Friend. So, perhaps I will and it's just going to happen late, or my cycle is going to be a long one this month. I wonder why, all of a sudden, my cycles have gone nutty?

Anyway! I have a question. If you don't ovulate, can you still have the CM changes that accompany ovulation? eg. The day after the spotting incident, I had a small amount of EWCM after a day or two of watery CM.

And yet the month I was told I have PCOS I conceived. Go figure! (Still not totally convinced I actually have it)

oh that bought back a memory Ginger - Free Willy!

Oh dear it is small things that amuse small minds, as I sit at my desk with a silly grin on my face!

LMAO at Free Willie *shudder*

Yep Ginger, or more accurately with the baby I m/c a few weeks before I got preg with the gremlins. We had been TTC for 11 mths (12 cycles as mine are short) so my GYN ordered the prelim bloods and said he suspected based on history etc. that I had PCOS. Then I got preg and m/c which can be a PCOS thing (insufficient progesterone as some cycles I only had a LP of 6-8 days), then six weeks after the m/c was preg again with the gremlins.

Perhaps. I don't chart every month, so perhaps I don't ovulate every month and it's just happened that the months I've charted previously have been ok. Possibly this month's chart is skew - I haven't been sleeping that great, and that might be affecting the temp results.

You're right though, it is strange ...I think I got my hands on the PCOS diagnosis and then just threw them up in the air ...imagined myself breaking inside and everything grinding to a halt just because I had this new information

Bollocks, bollocks, bollocks! My chart has detected ovulation at CD18. It's good that there is ovulation, not so good that we only BDed CD17 (PM) and it was a serious quickie before going for a huge walk with the dogs!

Oh well ...the specialist is booked, so nevermind if we write this cycle off. Silly, silly Ginger!

In answer to your question Jess, I always take my temp at 6am (when my alarm goes off, and I set it for the weekends), but I've had a few days this month where I've just 'snoozed' or slept lightly, or woken up a couple of times in the last few hours of the night. I don't know if this affects things or not, although my temps are in a low range - thinking about it, it would be a problem if they were in a high range wouldn't it? Anyway! Not much I can do about it now!!

I'm thinking that with me, it's not ovulation but egg quality. Bearing in mind (and it's so easy to forget when you're struggling with infertility!) that we have had a chemical pregnancy, and my endo specialist and Dr believe 2 failed implantations on top of that. So I'm guessing that my eggs just suck.

If you Od on CD18 and BDed the night before then thats a good thing isnt it??
I Od on CD16 and only BDed once at 5pm on CD15 and got pregnant so heres hoping that it all works out for you this month

Baysmum... and you remember the time some 4 months later???