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neeandsam wrote: No offence to anyone else, but I think some people go WAY overboard. I know it's personal choice and what it is you feel comfortable with, but I think we are led to believe a whole lot more things are bad for us that actually are.

I think I would tend to disagree with you on that one. All any of us can do is take the best information we can find and then use that to make the best decisions we can. Those decisions aren't the same for everyone, but that doesn't mean they're 'wrong' or 'overboard'.

As for things we're told are bad for us that actually aren't - well, think of all the things our mothers did when they were pregnant with us, or we were babies. Sure, we all survived, despite them eating listeria-risk foods and drinking alcohol etc - but since more information has come out about what's safe and what isn't the rate of stillbirths, miscarriages and SIDS has been dropping and I don't think anyone will argue that it's not a good thing. For me personally, if there's the smallest chance that avoiding something that *might* be bad during pregnancy helps keep my son safe, then that's a good enough reason for me. I can live without it for nine months. Others will decide differently, and that doesn't mean they're going overboard or being irresponsible, they're just doing what they can to make the right decisions for themselves and their babies.

All of our grandparents and even some mothers would not have been told not to eat this or that and we are all fine

I know its definately a personal choice and im not saying anyone is wrong. But i mean there is ALOT of things that we are not supposed to eat and personally i think that its all about moderation.

Yeah, if your eating seafood or sushi every day.. sure, anyone could get sick or whatever. but im sure every now and then (like a couple times during pregnancy) its not going to hurt.

Good on you if you dont touch any of it. I have actually not touched alot of things and i havnt dyed my hair (as much as ive wanted to!).

There are some things i just cant resist. Like coffee. I told myself i wouldnt touch it but i did lol.

Salami

Salami

and

Salami

oh my gosh I want it so much that even the animated one on the Snax ad makes my mouth water

I've decided that I'm going to make my own sushi just so I can have that (luckily I don't like smoked salmon anyway)

I missed the plain ordinary McChicken burger, lamb kebabs and sushi! Love McChickens and kebabs but haven't been able to touch sushi - can't stand it anymore
I still miss alchohol - mmmm there are quite a few cosmos with my name on them once I switch Gina to formula

heres my list

Scampi sushi, tuna sashimi, & oysters from Wasabi sushi train in cube st (its the absolute best)

Blue steak from the monteeths ale house in khandallah.

tom yum koong (prawn) from oriental thai in kent tce.

the bottle of mumm & candon thats in our wine rack and a bottle of my parents 2007 sav blanc (that i have not yet tried but husband says is great) and a bottle of Kathy Lynskey merlot  & gwertztraminer (not all in one sitting of course). and a large G&T.

we are definately going to be doing a bit of eating out adn i will be drunk for about a week looking at that list.

Are we not allowed frozen pizza from the supermarket? We have had it a few times at home, and i figured it was ok cause i cooked it from forzen till it was piping hot in the oven - and therefore killing off any listeria bugs in the process.

Please someone tell me if we can't have this? I honestly thought it was ok....

I've eaten frozen pizza a few times too. My obstetrician said it was fine as long as it was cooked properly and eaten straight away.

mmmmmmm frozen pizza i eat it and put extra cheese on it (smacks her hand)and KFC i have had  cravings for honey toast lately im not sure if you are not allwood honey but ate it with both my other to with no problems.