Listeria Ltd.
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Topic: Listeria Ltd.
Posted By: Mikaela
Subject: Listeria Ltd.
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 12:43pm
One of my friends and I have always joked that one day we'll make a killing selling banned-during-pregnancy food in maternity wards, and calling the business 'Listeria Ltd'
Anyway, I know we discussed this months and months ago, but there's a whole new bunch of mums-to-be in here now so I'll open it up again:
What foods are you most looking forwards to eating after your pregnancy?
I'm hanging out for smoked salmon/avocado sushi and a Slick Chick burger from Burger Fuel - can't wait to scoff them down!
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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 12:53pm
Oh man, I can't wait to have KFC! And ham. And soft cheeses...
I wish there was a salivating smiley...like Homer Simpson does.
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Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz
Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz
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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 1:01pm
Poached eggs!!!!! mmmmmmmm 7 weeks to go.
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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 1:12pm
Any kind of sushi, ham from the deli and coke!
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Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 1:15pm
KFC coleslaw! Fresh Buffalo Mozeralla, Feta....
Rare Beef - a la japanese style
Garlic Aoili
<wipes drool from chin - and goes back to eating boring old cheese toastie>
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Posted By: YvetteandElla
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 1:24pm
mmmm
KFC, Aioli (that is homemade at restaurants), Camembert cheese and Feta.
Seafood, Runny eggs (I am sick of overcooked eggs) mmm Eggs Benedict with Runny eggs.
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Posted By: Glow
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 1:25pm
Oppps....
How do you know if you have listeria??
I cant wait for alcohol..
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Posted By: mamanee
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 1:43pm
Naughty, but the only thing I stayed away from during my pregnancy was alcohol and raw fish.
I had ham, cold chicken, all types of cheese. ALL cheese in NZ has to pasteurized by law so there is no risk at all of eating unpasteurized cheese.
I worked in a deli for four years and most of the meat is sold so fast that it is always fresh.
I know that not many people would agree with me but I think the listeria hype is a whole lot of bullsh*t and it all comes down to common sense.
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Posted By: ffudehtpu
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 2:10pm
is it correct that you can have soft cheese if it is made with pasturised milk and consumes within 2 hours of opening? I though i read this on one of the many pregnancy advice books that the midwife gave me.
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Posted By: MelanieAndBree
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 2:16pm
Sushi, Blue cheese and Alcohol!
And i have actually been naughty and eaten a bit of stuff im not supposed to. But really I think its all about moderation ya know.
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Posted By: Peanut
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 2:23pm
Sushi and wine!
Yip, ffudehtpu, as long as you eat it on the day that it is open then its ok. You shouldn't put it back in the fridge and then eat it the next day....good excuse to eat the whole lot without feeling too piggy as you would hate to waste it.
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Posted By: mamanee
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 2:25pm
Peanut wrote:
Sushi and wine!
Yip, ffudehtpu, as long as you eat it on the day that it is open then its ok. You shouldn't put it back in the fridge and then eat it the next day....good excuse to eat the whole lot without feeling too piggy as you would hate to waste it. |
Oh man, I did this heaps of time. And at my baby shower we had camembert and brie sitting out for like three-four hours on the table and I still ate it after that time.
But like Melln said, it's all about moderation!
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Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 2:40pm
Well, i have eaten KFC all the way through!
But looking forwarrd to bubbles, sushi and subway.
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Posted By: Freesia
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 2:41pm
Sushi, meat pies and custard squares
Cooked chickens and coleslaw just so we can buy quick dinners again without having to prepare something.
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Posted By: YvetteandElla
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 2:50pm
mmmmmmm Custard squares
Why are you not eating Meat pies? I have never heard of that one
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Posted By: bookwyrm
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 2:56pm
Egg and potato salad from the deli and cold cocktail sausages (like the butcher gave you as a kid).
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 3:03pm
I've been having KFC! Who cares? I heat it up when I get home anyway.
Camembert, a nice chicken, brie and cranberry panini from the mall. At the moment they don't heat them up enough for my liking.
Jagermeister! Hehehe I bought a bottle when we got back from honeymoon and never got around to having a Jager nigth with the girls. That will unfortunately have to wait until bubs is 5 months old though, when DH comes home and takes the baby!
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Posted By: bookwyrm
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 3:11pm
I love Jager emz, so yummy. It was a regular favourite before I fell pregnant.
I miss beer. Grolsh and Coronas... *sigh* LOL
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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 3:16pm
yuuuummm runny poached eggs...and salads from the deli and oh yuuuummmmy custard squares...
I'm confused over the coke thing though, I have still drunk coke - is it bad?
------------- Mum to:
Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz
Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz
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Posted By: kabe
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 3:39pm
Custard squares, soft cheeses (especially blue cheese), red wine and seafood like prawns. I also miss chicken rolls and panini's.
I admit that I have given in and had sushi on occasion, as long as I've seen it made fresh.
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Posted By: megrac
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 3:57pm
seafood so would love some scallops, mussles. all the cheeses feta especally and cold chicken samies i have cold chicken in the fridge at the moment and it is so hard to resist.
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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 4:00pm
sunnyhoney I have opted to be generally caffeine free for my pregnancy and cut out coke, coffee and tea.
Personal choice really, they say caffeine is o.k, but it was my excuse to give up my coffee consumerism addiction! It was getting expensive!
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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 4:47pm
Oh you're so good Peachy. I don't drink tea or coffee either anyways but like the occasional coke. I suppose it's just as bad though.
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Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz
Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz
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Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 5:04pm
I went caffiene free when ttc as it is one thing they suggest to cut out for various reasons. Of course I promptly began crraving coke, so I get the caffiene free coke to conquer that!
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Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 5:15pm
I've been eating KFC too...
I'm looking forward to a nice piece of fish. Oh and a glass of Oyster Bay Sauv Blanc...
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Miss Attitude (8)
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Posted By: MyMinis
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 9:21pm
SUSHI!! and cold meats and shaved ham, deli foods, smoked salmon, BBQ's (DF refused to let me eat off a bbq while pregs).
Oh yeah and mocha's yummmmmm havent had one in sooo long (Im a mocha addict)
I ate KFC both pregnancies I was working at KFC while pregs with my first so used to get free chicken 
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 9:51pm
peachy wrote:
Any kind of sushi, ham from the deli and coke! |
Ohhh Im with you on the deli Ham!! and coke!! Its only been 6 weeks and Im craving coke! And what i wouldnt give to have a cup of coffee in the afternoon...ahhhhhh
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Posted By: MyMinis
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 8:06am
I still drunk the odd coffee when pregs if i had the good stuff only 1 but if it was instant i had 2.
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Posted By: Glow
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 8:19am
In a mag one time, i read article about coffee being OK??
Definitely an each to their own & in moderation thing i think!!
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Posted By: MelanieAndBree
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 10:18am
I drink tea like mad and ive had the odd coffee.
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Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 11:08am
The caffiene thing is definitely up to the individual - I only cut it out as I expected to find ttc harder than we did for many reasons - then just kept it out so I don't have to try to cut back when BF'ing.
But I like a nice decaf coffee every now and then!
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 11:44am
Nothing says that 1-2 coffees a day is bad. I'm just lucky that I hate coffee! Still have 1-2 glasses of fizzy per week though so that's enough caffeine for me.
Ham and tomato rolls, KB's chicken mayo rolls, med rare steak, cold smoked salmon (won't be able to have any this Xmas ), segg!
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Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 11:52am
Up to 300mgs of caffeine per day is supposed to be safe. That's usually listed as three cups of coffee or six cups of tea (not sure about coke though, check the bottle maybe?).
I'm playing it extra safe and just having one or two cups of tea per day.
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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 11:53am
I found I cant drink full strength coffee while preggers...not for baby's sake but mine....I get too highly strung and bounce off the walls...so decaf for me and I have to make it a mocha so I pretend it isnt decaf.
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Posted By: YvetteandElla
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 11:58am
mmm Medium rare steak am sick of having to overcook a good steak it is such a waste.
I have not touched caffine since we started trying for bubs - I drink Caffine free coffe and tea.
Cant wait to dye my hair - I hate the trailer trash regrowth.
Also would love to go and get a pedicure and manicure however am concerned about the smell of the chemicals
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Posted By: Thirdtime
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 12:05pm
I had the potato and gravy from KFC! What about the ham off frozen pizza's...is that bad too???
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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 12:11pm
Personally I wouldn't touch the frozen pizzas...I have gotten sick so many times from eating frozen pizza from the supermarket.
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Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz
Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz
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Posted By: Thirdtime
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 12:14pm
oh dear! ok will stay away from them. it's the only thing i felt like and stayed down!
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Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 3:35pm
I am off coffee as well, was never a huge fan, but am now treating myself to a single shot mocha once a week, and all the rest of the time I have herbal tea or Soy Hot Chocolate - yummo!!
Cant wait for a nice cold beer in summer, a nice vodka & tonic, and a large Cosmopolitan!!
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Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 4:12pm
I drink 2-3 cups of normal coffee a day, and I also have frozen pizzas and haven't had any problems... Nursie if you feel like them I can't see why you couldn't eat a vegetarian one??? another thing I can't wait to eat is subway.. An Italian sub with italian dressing.. hmm yum
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Posted By: mamanee
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 4:17pm
nursie wrote:
oh dear! ok will stay away from them. it's the only thing i felt like and stayed down! |
I think you should keep eating them if that's what you feel like and that's what makes you feel better. If it's not making you sick, then I don't see why you should stop! I would assume that you are heating through properly.
No offence to anyone else, but I think some people go WAY overboard. I know it's personal choice and what it is you feel comfortable with, but I think we are led to believe a whole lot more things are bad for us that actually are.
Sorry, just rambling. am hormonal..
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Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 5:48pm
neeandsam wrote:
No offence to anyone else, but I think some people go WAY overboard. I know it's personal choice and what it is you feel comfortable with, but I think we are led to believe a whole lot more things are bad for us that actually are. |
I think I would tend to disagree with you on that one. All any of us can do is take the best information we can find and then use that to make the best decisions we can. Those decisions aren't the same for everyone, but that doesn't mean they're 'wrong' or 'overboard'.
As for things we're told are bad for us that actually aren't - well, think of all the things our mothers did when they were pregnant with us, or we were babies. Sure, we all survived, despite them eating listeria-risk foods and drinking alcohol etc - but since more information has come out about what's safe and what isn't the rate of stillbirths, miscarriages and SIDS has been dropping and I don't think anyone will argue that it's not a good thing. For me personally, if there's the smallest chance that avoiding something that *might* be bad during pregnancy helps keep my son safe, then that's a good enough reason for me. I can live without it for nine months. Others will decide differently, and that doesn't mean they're going overboard or being irresponsible, they're just doing what they can to make the right decisions for themselves and their babies.
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Posted By: YvetteandElla
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 6:01pm
Here Here Mikaela - my thoughts exactly, some people think I am going to far with things - especially not dying my hair and eating soft cheeses but I dont want to put bubs at any risk - she is only in here for 9 months and I want to do the best by here
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Posted By: MelanieAndBree
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 6:14pm
All of our grandparents and even some mothers would not have been told not to eat this or that and we are all fine
I know its definately a personal choice and im not saying anyone is wrong. But i mean there is ALOT of things that we are not supposed to eat and personally i think that its all about moderation.
Yeah, if your eating seafood or sushi every day.. sure, anyone could get sick or whatever. but im sure every now and then (like a couple times during pregnancy) its not going to hurt.
Good on you if you dont touch any of it. I have actually not touched alot of things and i havnt dyed my hair (as much as ive wanted to!).
There are some things i just cant resist. Like coffee. I told myself i wouldnt touch it but i did lol.
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Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 6:50pm
Melln wrote:
All of our grandparents and even some mothers would not have been told not to eat this or that and we are all fine |
Which is why I said this:
Mikaela wrote:
think of all the things our mothers did when they were pregnant with us, or we were babies. Sure, we all survived, despite them eating listeria-risk foods and drinking alcohol etc - but since more information has come out about what's safe and what isn't the rate of stillbirths, miscarriages and SIDS has been dropping and I don't think anyone will argue that it's not a good thing. |
With regard to eating seafood and sushi etc in moderation - each to their own, but it makes no sense to me when you can get listeriosis from eating one mouthful of infected food. Moderation doesn't really come into it.
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 8:40pm
Salami
Salami
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Salami
oh my gosh I want it so much that even the animated one on the Snax ad makes my mouth water
I've decided that I'm going to make my own sushi just so I can have that (luckily I don't like smoked salmon anyway)
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Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 11:23pm
You have to remember that in our parents and grandparents days food was prepared fresh and eaten fresh, there was a lot less variety in terrms of deli foods, there were very few takeaways and people cooked and stored their own foods.
the prevalence of the various food poiosnings is increasing hugely every year and NZ has some of the worst cases. Some of that has to do with the lackadasical approach storage and handling of food - pellets of deli foods (or other things requiring refridgeration dumped by the delivery trucks outside supermarket loading bays inthe sun etc.
The best anyone can do is make an informed choice. For some, they will cut out a lot more than others becasue that is what makes them feel comfortable. Others feel ok cutting out less foods.
My rule of thumb has been if it is going to make me feel guiilty afterwards, i won't eat it.
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Posted By: yummymummy
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 1:59am
I missed the plain ordinary McChicken burger, lamb kebabs and sushi! Love McChickens and kebabs but haven't been able to touch sushi - can't stand it anymore
I still miss alchohol - mmmm there are quite a few cosmos with my name on them once I switch Gina to formula
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 5:09am
The day I had Kate I got Mum to bring me a fresh baguette with ham and brie (yes a whole baguette!!!), a can of coke and a custard square. After labour/birth it was without a doubt the best meal I have ever eaten
Since then I have had tonnes of ham rolls, brie, blue vein cheese, supermarket cooked chook, red bull, pate, medium rare steak, runny eggs, takeout indian, chinese and a chicken burger! The last 2 weeks have been listeria mad for me, not to mention not at all helpful when it comes to shifting the baby weight...
I can't wait to come back to NZ and get proper indian, a proper kebab, burger fuel, oporto and chicken sushi "insert Homer Simpsons drool sound here"
I totally agree its each to their own about they eat. I always bit my tongue when I saw pregnant friends eating things I chose not to so I got really annoyed how people felt they had a right to tell me how 'silly' I was being for chosing not to eat the higher risk foods. IMO it was that I would never ever forgive myself if something happened and for the want of not eating certain foods for a few months it seemed like a pretty small sacrifice.
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Posted By: ffudehtpu
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 9:13am
heres my list
Scampi sushi, tuna sashimi, & oysters from Wasabi sushi train in cube st (its the absolute best)
Blue steak from the monteeths ale house in khandallah.
tom yum koong (prawn) from oriental thai in kent tce.
the bottle of mumm & candon thats in our wine rack and a bottle of my parents 2007 sav blanc (that i have not yet tried but husband says is great) and a bottle of Kathy Lynskey merlot & gwertztraminer (not all in one sitting of course). and a large G&T.
we are definately going to be doing a bit of eating out adn i will be drunk for about a week looking at that list.
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Posted By: megrac
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 1:31pm
the whangarei kfc has a bad rep and it is the only take aways that my mw recomended that i avoid(because of the rep). i drink 2-3 coffies a day if i miss one i get the killer headakes and mw said that to keep them up better than getting headakes. subways new lamb and mint subs on tv look so good would love one. think i will have kfc for tea when baby is born yumm.
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Posted By: callalily
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 5:05pm
Are we not allowed frozen pizza from the supermarket? We have had it a few times at home, and i figured it was ok cause i cooked it from forzen till it was piping hot in the oven - and therefore killing off any listeria bugs in the process.
Please someone tell me if we can't have this? I honestly thought it was ok....
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Posted By: mamanee
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 5:30pm
callalily wrote:
Are we not allowed frozen pizza from the supermarket? We have had it a few times at home, and i figured it was ok cause i cooked it from forzen till it was piping hot in the oven - and therefore killing off any listeria bugs in the process.
Please someone tell me if we can't have this? I honestly thought it was ok.... |
It's fine!! Absolutely fine.
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Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 5:43pm
I've eaten frozen pizza a few times too. My obstetrician said it was fine as long as it was cooked properly and eaten straight away.
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Posted By: sunnyhoney
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 6:08pm
I never said you couldn't have frozen pizzas, I just said "personally for me" I have had bad experiences in the past and wanted to avoid that during pregnancy for me. Everyone makes their own choices with the information they have, past experiences etc etc. It's up to the individual what they do or don't eat.
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Joy Emily 1.05am 27/09/07 7lb 3oz
Austin Paul 12.47pm 18/04/10 10lb 8oz
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Posted By: EllenMumof2
Date Posted: 28 June 2007 at 1:58pm
mmmmmmm frozen pizza i eat it and put extra cheese on it (smacks her hand)and KFC i have had cravings for honey toast lately im not sure if you are not allwood honey but ate it with both my other to with no problems.
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Posted By: tropics
Date Posted: 28 June 2007 at 2:48pm
SUSHI!!!!!!! I LOVE SUSHI!!!! I miss it soooo much!!!!! Sushi and a good bottle of Pinot Gris! YUM....
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