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    Posted: 30 November 2009 at 11:27am
When should it be stopped ideally?

Ashley is swaddled, both arms down, like she is in a straight jacket. This is what always worked best for her.

I was talking to my plunket nurse about the cot transition etc and she said I should do it all at once, cold turkey...no more swaddle, no more sleeping music and into the cot. She says that then Ashley will learn how to soothe herself to sleep and be better able to sleep anywhere.

I'm not sure as Elle was swaddled and had sleep music until about 8 months or so and it was good as I could take those things most places with us.
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Plunket schmunket - 'nuff said.

Sorry, that wasn't very helpful was it? Um, we're still swaddling DS and although he always gets his arm free, the free arm eventually wakes him up and he settles when I re-wrap him.

I think it's a bit cruel to go cold turkey with everything.... but then, I'm just a big softy.
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I agree with MrsH - Plunket told me to get rid of the swaddle - but after a week of trying I have decided to keep going with the swaddle - DS is 6 months.

maybe get her settled in the cot and then remove the other things??
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We have finally got rid of the wrap in the last week as Corban was waking himself (and me) up multiple times a night when he got unwrapped, and I was having to get up to him to rewrap him otherwise he wouldn't go back to sleep.

Another reason we did it was it was becoming a bit of a safety issue as he would manage to roll on to his tummy and with his hands wrapped couldn't push himself up or turn back over.

We went cold turkey last Tuesday, it took until Friday before he had two good day sleep unwrapped and last night was the first night he sleep through - ever - YAY!!!
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I dont think you should have no music or anything, I dont see why they would say not to use music, we always have. Silly plunket!

I think with ashley being how she is, id just take it one step at a time. Go into the cot cold turkey, but keep her wrapped as she sleeps well like that, and still use her music. Then as the weather starts getting hottler start putting her in the cot in just her GoGo bag and no swaddle, and see how you go?

ETA- But cos she is growing out of her bassinett fast, i think the cot is the first thing you need to tackle, hence why I say go cold turkey with just the cot, dont worry about the sawddling thing at all yet.

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Finley was wrapped straight jacket style until about 8 maybe even 9 months, don't worry, when the day came I thought he doesn't look comfortable I put both arms out gave him a cuddly and he LOVES it and still sleeps just as well.

We tried it a couple of times earlier but he just got upset, they will let you know when they are ready, I worried about it but thought well its unlikely i'm going to need to wrap a 10 year old so it will stop.

As for music, he still has a little music machine we turn on, it runs for 10 mins, if he wakes in the night he doesn't need it, or anything, I think its just a signal that its bedtime

Plunket have a tick box list of things you should and shouldn't do and they don't always fit in my opinion, go with what works for her.

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Our wee girl is 16 months old and for her day sleep I still wrap her. It helps to calm her down and we still have music playing for night and day sleeptimes. Do what you think is right not what other people say. You will know whats best for your wee one. Trust your instincts.
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10 months and still wrapping here! One arm has been out for the last couple of months I think. We still use music to go to sleep as well. That is part of our bedtime routine.

Have you thought about using a pekemoe as a transition tool?
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wow noisybaby, my 17 month old would have the hugest tanty if I tried to swaddle him lol!! We stopped swaddling him when he was about 4 months old, cos he started escaping and getting mad.



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I have just stopped swaddling Ty in the last week. He started to unwrap himself and get out of his safety sleep but without being wrapped would wake quite often throughout the night. So I now have him in a Peke Moe... probably one of the best things I have ever bought! Since he has been in it he has been sleeping 12hrs straight... YAY!!

He had also started to roll over in his Safe-T-Sleep, so now I don't bother with it and he just sleeps on his tummy

I don't think cold turkey is the way to go... wouldn't you want the transition to the cot to be as comfortable as possible rather than smack bang change everything on her at once? If she's happy being swaddled then there's no need to stop all of a sudden Bugger Plunket!



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I wrapped till 9 months, and only stopped because I got a grobag, and had to to justify getting that!
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DS was swaddled for about 5 months. We could have gone longer but it was February and so hot for the little guy that we just went cold turkey.

It took him a couple of nights to get used to his arms out - and we needed to resettle him, but ultimately it was fairly painless.

How do you feel about it? Mothers instinct is usually stronger than Plunket advice.

Re. transition to cot, we put DS into his cot for daynaps... he was so tiny in that big bed... and that took a couple of gos. He didn't like it at first but perseverance won. Just remember that you are in charge and doing it for good reason.

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I only just stopped swaddling Cooper at 8 months and that was only because we went to Australia and it was way to hot for him to be wrapped.
He now sleep in a grobag and sleeps just as good.


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Thanks ladies. Have decided to follow her lead. She loves her swaddle so am going with that...unless it gets too hot (which is happening rapidly!). I'm happy to report she is happily in her cot. She must've just had an off day the other day as she transitioned to it perfectly today with not one single tear . All her naps have been perfect today.
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Whats a "Peke Moe". I am having to rewrap Willow for day and night sleeps.
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We are still wrapping here and will continue to do so until Jackson is ready to go without it. When its hot he is in a singlet and muslin wrap only, no top sheet or blanket.
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I've found plunket really helpful, until last night made me feel like I'm completely off track looking after DS.
DS is 4mths and we still swaddle. His bedtime routine has just gone pearshaped and I was about to start my own thread.
Swaddling was one of the things the plunket nerse was very very against. We've been trying one arm out during day sleeps for about a week, and half the time I end up sitting next to the cot holding the free arm against his chest to calm him until he falls asleep - somehow I don't think that's better than a full swaddle.
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isaacsmum - poor you - they said the same to me a few weeks ago - some of them are pretty opinionated - some of my friends swaddled till 9 -10 months and their babies are fine. My DS is just like yours and struggles to sleep without being swaddled. Go with your gut, a mothers instinct cant be wrong
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