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SpecialK
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Topic: Sleeping through the night help! Posted: 05 May 2011 at 8:48am |
So after 6.5 months of broken sleep we really have to do something about DD's sleeps! She settles really well for her naps and at night, BUT then she is up every 2 hours, 3 hours if we are lucky. At the moment she is in a sleeping bag, arms wrapped and in a safety sleep with a dummy. (We tried leaving her unwrapped but she just had a lot of trouble settling - she kept pulling her dummy out and playing with it and then getting really worked up. Socks on her hands did the trick for a bit but after a while she got the hang of getting dummy out even with the socks). When she wakes up around 10pm we feed her, but then she just seems to want her dummy. So we are up replugging her all night, and sometimes even then it doesn't work - she spits it out and then we can be up every 10-20 mins. She is not hungry, because when we offer her a bottle she drinks a bit and then spits it out. I am so tired I can't really think straight about what to do from here and how to get her to sleep through.
She is in a good routine during the day, the night time routine has been the same from day one and she settles really really well. Oh, and my two kids are sharing a room.
So any thoughts and advice would be much appreciated!
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 8:55am |
Have you had a look at the sleep store website? Theres heaps of information on there and lots of things to try. I know they mostly recommend the verbal reassurance technique but theres other no-cry ones and a plan to get kids used to sleeping without dummys too.
(Sorry, thats not any specific advice)
Good luck!
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 9:23am |
Oh specialk I'm with you! My dd sounds almost exactly the same ( except we don't wrap) but we have a dummy and last night I was up 6 times from 11pm to 6:30!
We have just gotten into a habit if feeding her when she wakes at 3:30am in the hope that she would then sleep through until 7, but that doesn't seem to be working!
I don't mind getting up once to feed her but am struggling with the constant wake ups! Dh is now away for the best part of a month or two so I just can't cope anymore!
We are away next week so once we are back the dummy is going! Looking forward to reading any suggestions before then.
Off to check out the sleepstore now...
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 9:25am |
Again we are the same with settling. She settles really well and is in a good routine...she just wakes up lots!
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 9:28am |
Oh dear... I wish I had an answer for you. My DS is only 3months but plunket tell me that at his size (8kgs) he should be able to sleep through and we are usually up about 4 times between 12 and 6am. Not sure what to do either as he self-settles really well during the day. Currently swaddling one arm and applying pacifier as required. I have started daydreaming about nightdreaming!
People say they grow out of it one day!
Can your partner help? I.e. can you sleep somewhere else so you don't hear any crying and your partner could take care of her one night to give you a decent sleep?
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 10:00am |
Just a stat to make you feel better - only 21% of babies are sleeping through the night at 7mths...so that's 79% who don't! Definitely try some other techniques and see how you go, but don't beat yourself up about it if she still wakes in the night...it's completely normal!!
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 10:06am |
To stop Alex waking up like that I roll his blankie up and wedge it against his dummy so that the dummy stays in. And I put a handful of the other end of the blankie in his hand. He holds onto that and the dummy doesn't come out so he doesn't wake. If DH puts him down and forgets to do that he does the same thing of waking up
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 2:58pm |
I think I said it in your last thread, but Jacob was that age (a little younger) when we ditched the dummy. It was miserable while he got used to not having it, but when we dropped that things got better almost instantly. (We also had to stop feeding him at night to get a proper night's sleep out of him, but it doesn't sound like that would be a problem for you).
I know some babies just don't sleep through at that age... but I reckon it's 100% worth getting rid of the dummy and seeing what happens.
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 4:24pm |
I second the suggestions above, ditch the dummy and maybe the swaddle as well and use the verbal reassurance technique. A few hard nights but I'm sure you'll see huge improvements qiuckly as long as you are consistant.
(We did VR with our girls at 5.5 months and ditched the swaddle at the same time - it worked quickly & effectively and they were much happier not being swaddled by then)
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 7:26pm |
We don't wrap and leave a couple of dummy's in the cot so she can grab one if she wants. DD goes down for the night with a dummy and in her sleepsack haven't wrapped for a while. Yes she can grab the dummy and pull it out having her hands free means she can also put it back in herself.
She will wake once during the night but that's after an 8-9 hour stretch for a feed which I do in the dark no talking or changing straight back into bed till 7am.
She's slept thru maybe a dozen times since she was 3 months old and I can never predict which nights they will be.
Is she cold? I've got DD in a medium weight sleepsack and a blanket as it cools down in the early morning.
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 7:31pm |
As hard as it will be you have to get rid of the dummy. If you are having to get up to replug then it just aint working. It may be a few weeks of painful nights but then he will have learned how to sleep and settle without it and you shouldn't have to get up regularly again.
I got to this point at about the same time as you and tackled DS2's sleeps and within 2 weeks he was sleeping through every single night. He is now 14-15 months and almost never wakes - could count on one hand how often he has needed us to resettle him since then.
Whichever method you choose to sleep train is really up your own parenting style and maybe your child's personality. There are so many out there, pick one you feel suits you and be super consistent with it. Choose a good time when your partner can help out and you've got nothing much on the calendar and just sort it. Before you know it your wee man will be sleeping through and you'll be rested and a happy mama.
That 79% not sleeping through stat is crazy, most babes i personally know have slept through by that stage if the parents are willing to work them to get it. If you're happy to get up in the night indefinitely then that's a different situation. I think most babies are capable of it, but need some help.
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 8:06pm |
Really Crafty? Only one baby is sleeping through the night in my antenatal class (at arounda year old) and they did CIO so I dont really count it.
Sorry no advice from me, but I can empathasise with the lack of sleep, DD is still waking 5ish times a night, and my DH is out of the country for the 7 months or so. I am still feeding her at night, but will look at night weaning her once we are back from the states to see if that makes any difference.
Good luck!
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 8:09pm |
Yep thanks guys. Am thinking you are right and it is time to tackle the dummy..
We are away next week but as soon as we are home it's going!
Arghh it is making me nervous already but I know it has to be done...just remind me after she has her one good night for the week that it will not last lol...
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Posted: 05 May 2011 at 8:28pm |
If you aren't into letting them cry, there is a chapter in the No Cry Sleep Solution that talks about reducing the dummy use slowly.
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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 10:59am |
Further to this, I am now doing controlled crying at night! Only one night so far but I am hopeful! DS resettled alone after about 45mins of on-off crying (never for more than 10mins at a time).
Will post back my progress in a couple of days.
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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 11:22am |
Thanks girls, all really helpful suggestions. I am too scared to ditch the dummy but decided to teach her to find it herself SO last night we ditched the wrap and the safety sleep so she was just in her PJs sleeping bag, and and I tied her dummy to an end of a muslin cloth (thanks kebabat, that's a variation on your dummy/blanket trick). Well! Discovered that she got the hang of that pretty quick, that she is actually a tummy sleeper and she was only(!) up 3 times last night and twice was for loosing her dummy through the cot bars and banging her head on them. So I am going to tie a bumper on to the bars and see how we are going tonight, but she's settled for two sleeps today really well so fingers crossed.
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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 1:16pm |
Really truly Emmi. Out of DS1 coffee group about 4 sttn by 4 months spontaneously, and the rest (5) bar one before 7 months. The one that wasn't was co-sleeping and so feeding in the night till about 1 1/2.
Out of other friends i'd say 50% sttn around 3-4 months spontaneously (mostly those with easy babies with good daytime routines) and the others seemed to do it at about 6-7 months. 2 of my (very lucky) friends had babes that sttn at 6-7 weeks.
The ones that weren't were usually co-sleeping, were happy to feed in the night, or mums getting up to replug the dummy.
I used to work as a neonatal nanny in the UK and do feel that most babies with a good routine to make sure they are getting those calories in by day and having appropriate wake and nap times can sttn - if they are taught to sleep without needing props. As a mum i have used every prop known to man so totally understand why we use them (and are so scared to ditch them) but honestly believe that we don't always do ourselves or our bubs any favours by hanging onto them past their useful point. Just my really honest opinion tho!!!!
It's just so hard to see the sense of it when you're tired and desperate for some sleep...any sleep!!
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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 3:31pm |
DD started sleeping through with a dummy but that got annoying as she decided at about 5mths one night she needed it to go to sleep so we swapped dummy for blankie and that thing is now attached to her. We did let her cry because I don't have the patience to sit and cuddle etc. It only took one night of doing this. (She learnt pretty quickly) Prior to this though at about 6weeks we found out she was a tummy sleeper and I used to get her drowsy with dummy then when she actually went to bed take it off her she went to sleep easy! Not sure how that changed to having the dummy to go to sleep actually.
Try different techniques definitely, try tummy sleeping, the shhing and swaying. You may find once the distraction of going to sleep with a dummy is gone then they sleep through
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Posted: 08 May 2011 at 2:26pm |
It's totally normal for babies to wake every 2 hours or so through the night at that age. They just don't have mature sleep patterns yet and it takes most kids a few years to develop that. I don't really think there's anything much you can do to make them sleep through until they're ready (besides the obvious, like making sure they are fed, dry, warm, comfortable, not in pain). Some mums are just lucky and have babies that sleep through from a young age but they are the minority. MANY children still wake in the night until age 2-3 or older. From my experience, it's easier if you can just accept it, because fighting it just makes you angry and resentful. You will probably find her sleep will just gradually improve no matter what you do. You go through bad times, it gets better a while, then they get a cold or start cutting a tooth and it's back to sleepless nights, then starts getting better again.
It doesn't suit everyone, but I have the best sleeps when I co-sleep.
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Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:15am |
DD has only slept thru the night occasionally and I have been offering at least 1 feed during the night which hasn't been a problem as she's then settled and gone straight back to sleep.
The last couple of nights however she's woken up and its taken 1/2 hour to resettle her, she's not interested in food or the dummy. Will scream blue murder if I try to put her back into her cot.
How can I get her back into the habit of settling herself?
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