Nights

if it were me i could stop waking her during the day now... in the beginning it is very helpful and i used to with toby or he would sleep all day and not feed. but after a while the patterns you make during the day start to affect the night time too. if you think a build up of wind is affecting her tho i think you need to find an effective way of getting it out... also if my baby took longer than 10/15 mins to resettle in the middle of the night i would just feed them.
do you change her nappy when she wakes in the night?

maybe shes come to rely on the rocking? what happens if you just leave her....?

eden has been the only one of my babies who hates having a wet bum... even when in disposables she hated it and would get quite upset until i changed her. might be something to look into. (and you could changing her before feeding her so you dont re wake her).

That might be a good idea Fiona - We had Leonard in our room until recently and I (unwittingly) taught him to sleep through the night - I was too tired to feed him and when he would start to squirm and make a small bit of noise, I would get up and put a dummy in his mouth. The sucking would send him back off to sleep. After two or three nights of this, he slept through!! You might not want your daughter to sleep all the way through but you might want to just do that for the times you want her to go back to sleep. And it probably doesn't have to be the dummy, it could be whatever works to stop that 'stir' from becoming a full blown 'wake'.

Even now when he's napping in his cot in his room and it's not time to be awake, I try and get to him as quickly as possible so I can resettle that way.

I think you can safely say that it's a wind build-up. You've probably tried The Baby Whisperer's burping technique I'm guessing which works for us. A friend of mine had her baby lying on her tummy over a wheat pack patting her bum which got the farts out. I think the heat relaxed her tummy. Perhaps you could give that a go..... Wish I could be more helpful in that area.

Hey it could be silent reflux. it is really common for silent reflux to not bother the baby until about 12 weeks.

Maybe you could try some gripe water or infacol drops if you think it could be due to excess wind.

Yeah, I take it out as soon as it looks like he has dropped back off and if he squirms again, put it back in. I'd rather he not get used to feeling it in his mouth through the whole sleep as I'm scare he'll start to rely on it (like I have )

Last night was a right royal disaster. I moved her into her bedroom. I was up to her 6 times between 10.30 and 7 and ended up doing 4 feeds in that time. As she was full blown crying before I knew she was awake each time she was impossible to resettle without a feed. So based on last night she took more feeds in the night than during the day.

The prob with her being in her own room and fully crying is that now I will have an OT toddler and husband too. I may be dizzy and near fainting most days but at least I can cope if my toddler is well rested - if she is OT too then it will be much worse!

So weird! She is such an angel during the day.    I don't get it.

I managed to wind her quite well yesterday during the day and again at her dream feed. It is interesting how she will be ok up until her first night feed then always wakes again within 1.5 hours of that feed.....

Also, the longer her first stretch, the better the second. So for e.g. when she was doing 6 hours at the start, she'd then do 3 after that. If she does 3 or 4 at the start, it is 1 to 1.5 after that,

I was drinking fennel tea actually but it ran out and I haven't made it to a shop to get more. Must try to get there today.

Yes - can't complain in the scheme of things I know but I have very dizzy spells and almost faint a lot at the moment.

Haha Bizzy - sorry, gotta laugh at that. I eat better than probably anyone you know! I seriously would put money on it. Just because I am slim doesn't mean I don't eat well! I eat more than my DH and that is saying something.

Typical day:
Porridge for breakfast with almonds, dried fruit, seeds milk
AND Toast with peanut butter
AND Complan
Morning Tea:
Apple
Nut bar
Lunch:
Either meat and salad sandwich OR bowl of rice with tuna, avocado etc. Yesterday was a huge bowl of pasta. Fruit as well.

Loads of afternoon snacks.

Dinner - meat and vege with either rice or potato - have more meat etc than DH.

Supper - yoghurt with fruit & muesli & some biscuits or whatever baking I have around.

Get the idea? I have low iron (stores almost ran out) and am not getting much sleep - hence the dizziness. My milk supply is great and Ashley is thriving.

Fiona a lot of what you describe I have had or or having with Andrew. We have a few times that he totally got almost day night confused. Only exception is that my monkey rarely sleeps over an hour during the day. He is a lot like his sister in the fact that he doesnt need much sleep.

He however goes 3 hours for the first sleep and then 2 hours and then up every hour. Farts a lot ect.

Then we sometimes have 4 hours for the first sleep, 2 then every hour again.

And sometimes 5 hours, then 2 then every hour.

When we had him at the dr at 6 weeks he was diagnosed with silent reflux due to all the other stuff that was happening as well.

Only way I get him to sleep longer at night is by burping him and then put him down and 10 minutes later I pick him up and he usually gives a huge burp and then I rock him until he goes down again. He sleeps better in our bed after his first long sleep and that is the way we get him to sleep longer for the second part now as well as I can position him a lot more upright than what I can in the cot.

Some nights he spent the first part of the night in our bed as well and others in his cot. I put him down when I go brush my teeth and if he is fast asleep I leave him. If not I pick him up and bring him into bed.

We use gripe water if he is extra hard to burp although lots of moms swear by infacol.

Only thing I can say is that it does get better over time. I also watch what I eat. A lot of things we have noticed make him spit up a lot more and that night he will be extra fussy and you can hear him swallow the milk down as it comes up each time.

We decided to go the non-medicated route with support from our GP but he did say there is stuff out there you can give them. So perhaps go to your GP and see what they can do for you as well.

Perhaps for a week let her sleep when she wants and dont wake her up at all and note down the times she wakes up, for how long and how long she feeds during the day compare to night time. We did that and after that noticed a total pattern.

He is sleeping a lot better at night since I feed him as soon as he wakes up during the day, burp then play and as soon as he shows he is getting tired I feed him again and then it is sleep. I know everyone is with the feed, play sleep routine but it is only when I started feeding him before a sleep that he goes a bit better at night due to getting more feeds during the day. He doesnt like his tummy getting too full so this way I double up on feeds during the day.

Might be worth a try?