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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 9:05am |
Anyone elses baby hate their cot and sleeping alone in general?! 
Clodagh has always been a bit of a rubbish sleeper (Mum thinks payback for me cos apparently I was too lol)...but she's actually getting worse, not better.
I truely think she hates her cot. The room is comfortable, the sheets are 100% cotton, I"ve changed what she wears from footed onsies to sleeping bags to onsies only...but oohh she's a wee trick adn just hates sheets and blankets of any kind. 
On a really good day, I can convince her to take her naps during the day in there but it is just not happening at night. We are attachment parenting but have resorted to letting her cry for ages but boy she can go for ages, and gets more wound up than ever. I cave miles before she ever will ...plus it feels so wrong to do it that way so that is off the agenda anyway.
She sleeps pretty well with us, especially if we've had a battle over going to bed! She'll just snuggle into me and drop off adn now hardly wakes o'night at all that way.
Just seems a waste of a $1000 gift lol
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 9:08am |
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I should add that in every other way Clodagh is a lovely relaxed and gregarious baby...so it's weird she hates sleeping alone. She can sometimes be convinved to drop off in her buggy...but that cot!! Nah uh. NO way. Nein. sigh.
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 9:14am |
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have you tried putting something of yours in there with your scent on, a t shirt maybe. if she was half asleep and you could still smell you it might help.
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 9:26am |
Hi Bizzy, thanks....yes I have tried that and it worked *somewhat*.... but not well enough!
I'm just sick of nighttimes being such a battle. Feel like we've ttried everything, different bedtimes, wearing her out during the day, same bedtime routine always,,,and still the onyt thing that *usually* works is sleeping with us.
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 9:30am |
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eden wont go to bed till she is ready. even when small. if she wasnt ready she would cry and scream so we would get her up (i dont like leaving to cry either) and she would either have a bf or cuddle then usually would go to bed quite happy after that... not always though, sometimes we had to get her up a couple of times. she is still the same, unless shes ready thats it!
i dont think she doesnt like the cot, she just doesnt like being apart from you. does she wake if you transfer her to the cot? and if she is only going to sleep with you does that mean you are all having early or late nights?
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 9:41am |
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Have you tried having other time in the cot. I mean letting her lie/play in the cot with some toys during an awake time? Some say that if the ONLY association with a cot is sleep, other uses can help to make them feel it's a happy place.
With our DS we used the cot as a bit while he was awake before he was out of the bassinett. When we changed over, there was no change in his sleep behaviour. (Don't know if it was our DS, or the theory that it wasn't a strange place)
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 11:28am |
We have had the same problem! I say had as it seems to be better now. So what did I do?
Well I personally think he just grew out of it but I also did make an effort to spend time in his cot when I was in their with him so that he didnt associate the cot with being left alone. I know people say cots are for sleep only but I wanted the "cots are a nice place to be" association. I think that worked somewhat.
I always fed James to sleep (although now he is often NOT asleep and still goes happily into his cot...mostly). I found he also would wake AS SOON AS he hit the cot. I would end up with my boob still in his mouth rocking and swaying as I lowered him into his cot .
I read in the no cry sleep book that you do a "dance" where you start lowering them in and if they start getting wind of that you stand back up again and continue rocking, then start lowering again and then come back up etc each time going lower and lower. Its all trickerry I tell ya!
It was around the 8-9 month mark that I was totally pulling my hair out with James....about 9-10 months it started improving. I think this was also when James could roll both ways easily and thus get himself into comfy positions.
Remember, its about this age where they go through separation anxiety too.
It did get better! (last night was hell though...just like it was months ago...but he has just gone down this morning, awake and with only a 30sec grizzle.)
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 12:25pm |
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I don't think I explained what I meant very well. His cot was in his room, and the bassinett was in ours. Starting from when DS was very little (i.e. still sleeping in bassinett) we'd do things like. . . put him back in the cot after a nappy change (while I washed hands tidied up) with a toy/mobile going. Some tummy time. I'd do his nails in there (with the side down). Not just alone time in the cot.
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 12:32pm |
Ohhh NZpiper that gives me some hope! So you think it might just be a phase? I read the no cry sleep solution and in fact we did it last November and it worked really well with not that much crying (on my or Clodaghs part lol).
Maybe I'll start staying in there with her before and after her BF so she gets used to me being there as well as being used to just being in her cot...
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 12:34pm |
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Issacsmum- oh I understand what you mean now. Clodagh was in her bassinette with us for the first 4 months then in her cot in our room for the next 2 months or so....so perhaps it *is* a being left alone thing rather than hating her cot. Her room is literally off ours, it's almost an ensuite type arrangement so we're right there...but guess she can't possible understand that at this stage. I will try your suggestions and start doing stuff in her cot like reading and maybe playing quietly. Do you think that might work?
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 12:46pm |
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lol Lauren is still in our bed... she has never slept in a cot, and only did the bassinet very briefly. She grew out of needing/wanting to sleep with someone, but she just won't go in a cot. She has all her sleeps on our bed and has recently made signs of wanting to sleep in with her big sister so we're just getting a bunk and moving her in there. I gave up fighting over the cot, she hated it, would cry the second she was in it regardless of whether I was trying to get her to sleep or not, yet a bed, or even the cot mattress on the floor was absolutely fine (we used to put the mattress on the floor for day sleeps but now that she can get on and off the bed she just has it on the bed).
NZpiper has some really good suggestions! I also read the no-cry sleep solution, but she just wasn't having a bar of it and I hated the tears so have just rolled with what works - you'll get there!
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 2:05pm |
Cassie- so did you co-sleep with both your girls or only Lauren? I'm not against co-sleeping, just it makes for a crowded bed cos Clodagh takes up so much room lol. Also how does another sibling get concieved IYKWIM lol.  Altho I see you managed it, well done! lol 
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 3:15pm |
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Ivy didn't come into my life til she was one, and she'd always slept in a cot so it wasn't really my call that time around - we did try to get Lauren sleeping in a bassinet, but it really just did not work! I opted for the 'getting some sleep is more important than where baby sleeps' point of view. I love co-sleeping! it's been so nice having her there, always knowing she's safe, being able to feed her lying down and drift straight back to sleep though she mostly sleeps through these days. Love those early morning smiles and cuddles. I imagine she will still be coming into bed first thing in the morning for a long time (which is what we did when we were kids!).
As for conceiving again? lol well, the beauty of having a baby in your bed is that you have to be inventive and explore the rest of the house which in turn is a great way to spice up the love life! lol
I will once again, try to get this baby into its own space - am getting a basket this time so that it can be on the bed, or in the cot, or wherever and hoping that works out. Hubby is kind of ready to have the bed back to ourselves and I'll try my best! But if baby refuses the other options it'll be back to co-sleeping. Funnily enough, when we did manage to get her to sleep on the mattress on the floor at nights (gave up on that until we get her an actual bed) we had a hard time sleeping because it was really weird not having her there will us. We'll all adapt though!
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 6:12pm |
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anything's worth a try. but yes, to quote someone (don't remember who) else on this forum. This too is a phase and it will pass.
Think that applies to just about anything baby.
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 7:16pm |
I saw a tshirt the other day that tickled my funny bone just a little, which had on the front "Co sleepers do it in the kitchen!" 
Have you tried lying with her in your bed and feeding to sleep, then sneaking out again? This is sometimes all that will work for us during the day.
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 7:33pm |
Emmecat, we went through that phase as well. For a few months he'd only sleep in the buggy, not in the cot.
I am not sure what we did... same routine every night, bottle before bed, cuddle... he seemed to get heaps better as soon as he started being able to roll around/crawl and get himself into a comfy position (although we still get the odd crashing/legs stuck).
Good luck
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 7:49pm |
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LOL HippyMama! I so need that t-shirt lol. I still feed Lauren to sleep, and have been doing the feed and sneak out trick forever, its a good one and you can master it pretty quickly! Also one I can use when she moves into her bunk bed in the event that she still refuses to sleep otherwise.
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 8:19pm |
SpecialK- I didn't realise you'd had the same problem lol (Stupid dial up keeping me off the net!). As we speak, DF is in the nursery with Clodagh and she is lying in her cot laughing at him. Hmmmmm. It's so stressful hearing her cry but not much better not being able to get her down! I've been popping her in her cot all day while I do things briefly in her room and she didn't seem to mind so fingers crossed this phase is just that!
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Posted: 01 February 2010 at 8:21pm |
HippyMama- yeah I feed her to sleep every night in the BF chair in her room....but it's the transition down to the cot that wakes her up! Haven't tried so much in our bed cos it's not overly safe and Im scared she'll crawl off it. As it is, half the time now (or more) she ends up on her tummy! She is turning out to be a real tummy sleeper.
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Anyone else’s baby hate their cot??
