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    Posted: 11 January 2009 at 2:11pm
OK maybe i am doing something wrong, but every night when i put Ava into her safetsleep it creeps up right under her arms and up under her chin. I put it on snuggly and even safety pin it to her wrap but it still creeps up. It worries me!!! She is wriggly but still...what am i doing wrong? I feel like the safe t sleep is a hinderance rather than a help with her sleep at the moment.
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The instructions say to safety pin the safety sleep in place.

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Yep - i do

Quote " I put it on snuggly and even safety pin it to her wrap but it still creeps up"
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I will be back to answer this soon but we never ever safety pinned it and didnt have a problem? so you do it up under the arms and with her wrapped as well?
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Sorry must have skimmed read.

We dont pin Issy in either and have never had it ride up to her chin (although her arms would stop it going to her chin, unless she slept with both arms straight up)

Its not flat though .. obviously it gets out of place as she moves (especially cause issy rolls over to sleep on her tummy) but never so much as for me to think it would be dangerous.

So maybe your child is just really ickle??
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what does ickle mean?
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foxxy - yep we currently are wrapping with one arm out and one arm straight by her sides, as we are weaning her off the wrap. Then putting the safetsleep on over the wrap, under the arm that is out, and pinning the safetsleep to the wrap.
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Thats what i was wondering to foxxy_one
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ickle = teeny (tiny, small etc etc)

I think your problem is you only have it wrapped under one arm .. its the arms that are supposed to keep the wrap in place around the body

(I was trying to work out how it would get to her neck)



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That sounds odd. DS has always slept with his arms out so have never had a problem. I have never safety pinned it either. Is Ava quite wriggly?   Could you try to safety pin the wrap/safety sleep to the sheet some how??


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I'm just trying to find a pic of E in his safety sleep...

so you only have safety sleep under one arm...yeah i agree with lilfatty...if you safety pinned wouldnt it be safety sleep to the sheet?
when he was little we safety sleeped like this and wrapped

then he had arms out like this(he sleeps in normal sleeping bag now ) though it did take about four goes to sleep without wrap and then later on without safety sleep!
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Foxxy - in pic 1) are his arms by his side or up across his chest?

In pic 2) what is over his arms/hands? Is that a pekemoe?
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Oooo I know the answer to q2 Thats a pekemoe
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pekemoe vs sleep sack? what are the advantages? (obviously hands are covered etc). Also, with the pekemoe, if the baby (when it is old enough) decides to stand in the cot, will they have less control over their hands and therefore are they more likely to have an accident if they stand up?
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I think they are designed as a transition between wrapping and a sleeping bag.

It would be pretty hard for the bub to get out of a safety sleep in a pekemo though as they wouldnt be able to undo it? So im unsure how they would stand up in one (unless you were thinking of no safety sleep?)

We went straight to a sleeping bag, but would wrap her over the top with a merino wrap or a muslin cloth.

We didnt put her into a safety sleep until she was unwrapped.
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Yep i was thinking of no safetsleep with the pekemoe because eventually i dont want to use the safetsleep.
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dont have issues with riding up but do with him rolling over a getting stuck in the middle of the night. he's not wrapped so arms abocve the STS and then he'll roll over onto his tummy and cant get back.

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Hmmm we didnt have an issues with hours riding up at all....and I never saftey pinned it. Um when he was swaddled I would have him arms by his side and wrap the Safe T Sleep over him.

This is how Caden was in his when we stopped swaddling


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yes it is a pekemoe but it didnt work for us.. we got a sleeping bag without arms .. (the next size up pekemoe without arms would have worked but we were poor) :) yes we always wrapped with hands down by sides..

i wanted something to cover his hands as i was paranoid that he would cover mouth and not be able to breathe but he was fine in his new one:)

we always had safety sleep and wrap..then just safety sleep then neither.. (which took a while!!) he started to be able to undo the safety sleep(and get all twisted in it)!! we just once he could stand put the cot mattress down ...and once they could stand they would be in the pekemoe without arms.. I would recommend getting rid of safety sleep before they stand up as it was soooo hard with E once he could..

sheza yeah thats same as E... so Denny yours doesnt look like that?

edited cause i meant to say cot mattress down!!!

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We dont use our safe t sleep anymore, he kept somehow getitng onto his tummy and getitng stuck plus I rekon its too hot now.

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