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    Posted: 20 February 2008 at 3:17pm
Cooper is a bit bunged up at the moment! He's had pears for the past couple of days as I thought this would help, but then someone told me today it has the opposite effect??

Anyone know for sure? Or what about banana? Should I try that?

Everything else is pretty normal, 4 - 5 Bfs a day plus some water every now and then
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If pears are like apples then its weird. With apples, stewed=bunged up, but aaple juice is good for constipation. So maybe the same with pears.
       
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Banana is likely to bung him up more. Try prune juice mixed with water. It's what we give Daniel all the time because he has bad constipation. Works like a charm lol
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Can I suggest that you stop the fruit and move on to the veges for awhile? You might notice the difference straight away. Cooper's fave is Pumpkin and Sweetcorn... straight out of a can.

We did veges for a week then had a break of a week now we are trying fruit... staying away from apples for now.. trying other fruit.
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My sister was saying to stay clear of Apples & bananas when they're constipated. So I was just giving Jett pears as well. But pears are no good either?? Gosh, it's getting more & more limited for him. MIL just made up a lot of vege's with silverbeat, so will just give him that for the meantime, avoid the fruits for a while...
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I'll try and find the list that I saw on another forum.. it suggests the foods that you should start with and keep clear of... BBS
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try the nutricia sweetcorn that worked with jett

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Ok Sorry I finally found the list:

6-9 months
Fruit: avocado, mango, rockmelon, paw-paw, kiwi, stonefruit, pears
Veges: zucchini, squash, pumpkin, green beans, celery, mushrooms
Grains: gluten free including brown rice cereal, millet, buckwheat. (white not reccomended till 2+ years)

9-12 months
fFruit: apples, bananas, berries, grapes, watermelon, dried fruits (sulphur - 2202 - free) citrus
Veges: spinach, beetroot, broccoli, carrot, cauliflower, asparagus, sweet potato corn, egg plant, peppers, tomoato and potato (the last 4 closer to 12 than 9 months)
Grain: gluten grains including oats, barley, basmati rice. (can cause intolerances if introduced too early)
Protein: tofu , chicken, some beans, egg yolk, seeds and nuts if cushed, soy products (milk, yoghurt, cheese) Note that nuts and siy may cause an allergic reaction.

1-2 yrs - strawberries, brown rice, wheat products (small amounts) fish, egg whites, pulses, cows milk.

Wheat and cows milk procuvts can cause intolerance if introduced too early. Egg whites can cause allergic reactions.

I also found this on the same thread about Pears:
Pears have the least amount of salicylates of all fruit, and the riper the fruit is the lower the amount of salicylates. So to test pears you need to buy ripe pears (NOT canned - they use quite unripe fruit and are high in salicylates) and wait till they are really really soft. Then peal them quite thickly (the skin has more salicylates in it than the fruit inside) and cook gently on the stove in water. I would suggest trying this in a month or two and see how baby goes ....

If baby isn't able to handle pears, then hold off on all other fruit for at least a month, if not two. They certainly don't need the nutrition from fruit at this age - remember they get most of their nutrition from bottles/breastfeeds and are only doing solids to get used to the taste and texture. Solids are an investigation time at this age, not a nutrition requirement.
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Apples and bananas are no good. Also stay away from rice & rice cereals ie baby rice; porridge; muesli; pasta.
Pears should normally work - were they raw peeled pears? Other things to try include peaches, plums and apricots. Also giving extra water. Prune juice is really really good but have never managed to give to Gina.
You need to make sure that you are not giving him foods that will ease constipation (like pears) and then something that promotes it (like rice cereal) as the overall effect will be nil.
    
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Hi Peachy!!

Thanks for the list Mel and all the other tips girls

Cooper had pumpkin and carrots tonight for tea. Will go with that tomorrow too then might try avacado!!
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No worries, I hope it works for you.
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Just re read some of the things, he had pears AND cereal yesterday for breakfast! No wonder he hasn't been able to pooh! bad mummy!!!
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I'm suprised at pears being a problem?

Agree with the kiwifruit and prune juice tips though, just a small amount of either will do wonders!
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According to the person that I got this info off, there are kids out there that have allergies to salicylates. So basically the riper the fruit the better it is for the kids.

I've stopped cereal for Cooper too... it was making him miserable.
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Jett went 3 times yesterday! I'm not sure what made him go, as it had been 7 days since he last went #2's. I've been giving him lactolose & peers with kiwifruit (which probably canceled each other out), then MIL made up vege's with silverbeet in it. So maybe the combo of the lot helped him go. I avoided all fruits yesterday & gave him the homemade vege's. Will try that for the next few days & see if that helps him go more regularly. Of course MIL thought it was her food that made him go.... I think it was more the fact it had been a week & he was bursting to go!

I've never given him baby rice, I don't think their digestive system is ready for rice yet, will try after 6 mths I think, and no cereal yet either. But with his constipation I think I'll avoid rice for quite some time.
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Oh, I'm famous! Lol Mel!

yeah, that list is what I am following with Lily. it is a lot more limited than a normal diet, but it is designed to avoid allergies.

Lily doesn't eat fruit - she doesn't like it - other than the occasional apricot. pears made her spilly, others she just won't bother with.

Apples are prone to causing bunging up in some babies - raw apple is what is suggested as a food for someone suffering from the runs, so you can see that it could have a similar effect on babies. bananas are notorious for constipation and also are a risk of allerfy through the latex family.


Orange veges are the most easily digested, which is why so much early food is orange in the traditional list (carrots are later in mine due to potential for nitrates, i have actually intoduced them this week).

I reccomend getting kids onto courgette in their foods as it is so watery that it helps with fluids during solids. I also always give water with solids.

We have never (tough wood) had a poo problem.
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Ohh I hope you don't mind me using that list Miss its so good. I'm now following it myself with Cooper, and so far so good.
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Well after lots of farts last night I was hopefull of a poo today..........but no!

So this morning for breaky he had kiwifruit. Lunch had about a teaspoon of pumpkin but wasn't really interested so will try that again for dinner.

I'm out tonight and MIL is babysitting so hopefully he does the big poo tonight!!!
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LOL Sparkle! Thats the kind of thing that I would say about my MIL.

Have you tried Coloxyl? Or baby enemas?
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