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    Posted: 11 June 2011 at 10:25pm
....if people would be so "passionate" (sometimes extreme) in their ideals if it wasn't for baby forums, or forums in general.

I was musing this this arvo after doing some study.

Some of the practises that have labels now days weren't around 7 years ago, well they were around but weren't labelled. I cloth nappied, I extended b/f, I recycled, I feed finger food, I co slept, an numerous other ones, but it's just what we did.

Now that people have a multitude of forums they seem to be able push across their views and I'm wondering does this help by empowering them as their view is getting out there to a pretty captive and some what vulnerable audience at times.

I'm not knocking forums as they've been bloody helpful to me as adult "company" when my DH worked away, they've certainly been more than helpful in sorting out the food "issues" my boy has.

I still do all the same things that I did with my daughter 7 years ago but 2 years ago they all suddenly had labels.

Or is it that they are just better informed, like myself, so they set out to help inform people. People probably think of me as the food freak though.
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My sister said the something similiar to me the other day... back when she had my nephew (nearly 10)things had labels, they were just different. BF, FF or mix (extended BF fell under BF). Home made, Jar food or "lazy mum" who just gave finger food. No ERF then, just "does your car have anchor points?". Cloth or Disposable (well that hasnt changed lol).

I am passionate about what I believe in, and those that "know" me will know that but I think sometimes people get all too caught up in how they "should" parent and that others "should" parent that way too and forget that we are just parents, doing the best we can with the knowledge we have and at the end of the day, when the start school none of this is going to be important.

So yup, i think forums have given "us" a platform to create these labels and catergorise our parenting. I think thats kind of sad really.

The only label I care about is "doing the best I can".


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Kinda goes away from the "Kiwi She'll be right" attitude...which in some cases is good but in other cases makes life difficult.

eta: I wonder if a lot of it has been brought about by Americanisms

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i agree there is certainly alot more labels, and if you want to do something that is not the 'right' way by some people you get jumped on for it

not saying that people shouldn't have opinions, they can be good things, think sometimes with forums cos it's anonymous that people can be more forceful than they might be if they were talking to a stranger in any face to face situation

hope that makes sense

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I just do what feels right to me as a parent and couldn't give a hoot what someone else thought! I have a pretty open mind and while I LOVE the way we do things with Lily, it's not for everyone and I accept that. How someone else parents their child is their business. I would probably only pipe up if I felt they weren't meeting the child's life necessities.
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I'll be honest, I couldn't care less whether someone ERF, BLW, Breastfeeds, formula feeds, does this or that, uses only organic fabrics, babywears, uses cloth nappies, or disposables or feeds their child crackers hanging upside down while dancing the macarena because it's something they are passionate about.

I only care that you don't bash your child, they are fed, clothed, and LOVED, which I'm sure all of us do.

I formula fed one child, breastfed the other one until 6 months, SHOCK HORROR and if someone tried to say that I gave up too early or I should have tried harder then go ahead,   I don't have an regrets, guilt or insecurities about MY choices.   

I could say heaps more, but it would be horribly offensive.
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I think we live in a culture where we often (as mums) feel guilty about SOMETHING. Whatever choices we make, we feel like maybe somehow we're not providing the best for our child and could do more or be more or something.

The way I see it is this: everyone is different and what works for them won't work for another. I recently spoke with a woman whose mother and sister criticized her for not enjoying being a SAHM and expected her to stay at home with her kids till they were 15yo!!! She had PND not just because of that but I'm sure it contributed to her guilt for not "enjoying" motherhood the same way they did.

I have strong opinions about things, and after being a nanny for a long time it's wonderful to be able to bring up my son the way I want to according to the values I have. But in my opinion, a good mother is a mother that does her best - whatever her choice for her children it's because she has their best interest at heart. Whatever conclusion she might reach - that's really what matters.

Motherhood seems to be such an important role to us that I think it is easy to be passionate about what we believe to be best. We do need to try and support one another more, judge one another less and realise that the majority of us are doing our best given our circumstances.

That is all slightly off-topic but my 2c.

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Oh just remembered something else I was thinking this arvo. And was probably more the point I was thinking about - I know people that aren't on baby forums or even the computer so I must ask them if they are aware of the "new" labellings/parenting devices?

I wonder if those people that don't have access or are friends with any one are aware of things such as the new MCN's vs disposables. I certainly only knew about new cloth nappies via this forum & someone talking about the Great nappy hunt.
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I think there have always been fashions in parenting, the internet's just another platform for sharing them. I know a lady at work who's in my mother's generation said that when she had her daughter, the whole 'silent' birth was all the rage. And the believers of the fashion at the time had their reasons - bringing the baby into the world in a calm, stressless way for the baby, etc... none of which resonates with me, but isn't that the way of it?

In saying that, these forums definitely shape my choices. I wouldn't have heard of some of the baby-carriers out there if it wasn't for threads on here, I would have thought they were limited to the front pack you can buy at the 'general' baby stores. And I love my Manduca!

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Bit off topic but CONGRATS Hopes!!!!!!! Not sure how I missed this very exciting news!!!!!!! (and agreed about the manduca )

That has made my morning seeing your ticker


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Hehe, thanks

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See i love the sharing of ideas, but too often it becomes less sharing and more "i can't believe you don't do things I do - therefore you are a bad mother" and for many people, it doesn't take much for them to feel like that. On the other hand, some people are so unbelieveably sensitive. you only have to post something positive about breastfeeding and you get three of four people whinging about how they couldn't and we shouldn't rub it in their faces.
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I definitely think the forums shape some people's decisions, that can be good and bad though. I've seen people buy or do things they otherwise wouldn't because of the 'everyone else is doing it' type attitude.

One thing I remember I was surprised about coming onto this and another forum, was how disposable parenting is today - people doing 5+ HPT's, when they've already had a positive (or testing too early), so many more mothers use disposables than cloth nappies (I was truly shocked at that when I first came on here, as to me they've always been a 'special occasion' nappy lol), but was happy to learn of MCN's as they are so much better than the old flats I used for a while with #1.

Most of the labels I've learnt have been from here, and sometimes when I read something I think about how opinionated people are about other people's choices and I feel like defending even though I really don't need to as I don't know these people IRL (esp the BF v FF debate as I encourage BF but FF both my children) but then I guess that's just forums for you.

Can't speak for others, but I know I was more upfront on here than IRL for a while.
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From my POV there seem to be a lot of 'rules' when it comes to parenting there are dozens of sources of 'advice' and each is passionate about their way.

It seems to me unless you follow a particular way perfectly you're doing it wrong.

Does my head in, I simply go with what works for me my daughter and the rest of our family.

Recently there was a story in Treasures magazine comparing Attachment Parenting to Routine - well I do a bit of both cause that's what works and how I feel comfortable raising our daughter.

One thing I have learnt from forums is never say never when it comes to parenting, you don't know what you will do until its your turn.

Babies have their own ideas about what works.

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I never knew half the labels till I came here & some seam to make some very competitive & think there are no other ways or none as good.

I never changed my parenting from my 10yr old to my 5yrs old...it worked for DS1, 2 & 3 so no reason to change.

There are a couple of things I am totally for & don't get when other parents chose not to do them & then justify whey they don't. I don't care who used what kind of nappy or how & what they feed as at the end of the day baby is feed & changed. We never had the cute cloth nappies when I had DS1 but if I had another today I would still do the same I did for him & used disposables...that's my choice & preference.

I never knew about chemical pregnancy till I came here, but I am not surprised due to early testing. I never tested till I was late & never knew I was pg till 6+ weeks so I think the earlier you test the harder it is & if AF arrives on time to me it is normal..& would rather not know prior.
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What I seem to find funny about forums is how passionate some people get over a particular topic or choice or whatever which is fine for them but that no one really cares how you raised your baby once they get to kindy age. I love it once they get to kindy age, no one gives a sh*t if you BF or FF or what car seat you use so long as they are in one of some description or whether you jar fed or did BLW or cloth nappies vs sposies. I think forums can put unnessary pressure on people who just want to be good parents but who are bombarded with opinions galore.
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Originally posted by kebakat kebakat wrote:

What I seem to find funny about forums is how passionate some people get over a particular topic or choice or whatever which is fine for them but that no one really cares how you raised your baby once they get to kindy age. I love it once they get to kindy age, no one gives a sh*t if you BF or FF or what car seat you use so long as they are in one of some description or whether you jar fed or did BLW or cloth nappies vs sposies. I think forums can put unnessary pressure on people who just want to be good parents but who are bombarded with opinions galore.


Exactly what I was going to say!!!

I sometimes wish I never joined a forum, for this reason, but I know Im a damn good mum, I do what works for my family and I have two healthy happy kids! You cant tell which of my kids was BF and which wasnt etc

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I like the forums as a balance to what Plunket says, if Plunket was my only source of parenting advice I would feel like a really bad Mother as I don't do exactly what they say.

With the forums and talking to other Mums I know there is an alternative and its ok for me to do things differently.

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Funnily enough, people pushing their parenting styles on forums like this (no matter how strongly they feel about them) don't tend to make me feel bad... if I think what they're doing is better than me, I'll change what I'm doing. If I think what I'm doing is better, I'm happy to continue doing things my way.

I don't like it when people rubbish other people's opinions, though. I think that's just unnecessary.

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I'm the same hopes. I'll do things my way and don't really care if others thing their way is better or whatever. But I know not everyone is like that
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