two different car crashes

two very different outcomes

scenerio one car driving along a highway slamming into a deer...very little damage to the car.

scenario two car hits and object rolls and hits a barrier.....major damage to the car.

one car accident all occupants walked away from the crash the other one of the occupants died.

now read about them here

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=14845286
http://carseatnanny.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-i-do-what-i-do.html

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rachelsea wrote: My gosh, I can't believe the lady in the first article had an unrestrained 2yr old sitting in the front seat surely she will get in trouble for that! YAY for the other lady being so up with the play on car seat saftey though

yes I hope the lady of the unrestrained child is charged with manslaughter!!!

bowie wrote: man i thought you had been in two crashes today! Pleased thats not the case. Will foward this to my coffee group friend who has her 5m old ff because he looks cooler and won't shut up about me turning DS around so he can be cool too.

also show her this one http://www.joelsjourney.org/ basically an 18 month old boy weighting approx 14kgs was forward facing carseat they were in alow impact crash (doing less than 60km/hr) he ended up breaking his neck..fortunately he did survived now if that can happen to a "big" 18 month old child imagine what would happen to a small 5 month old baby.

Shocking aye? I know of someone who was FFing her 4mo as he was 8kgs, she threw a big hissy on FB about it and has blocked me now... All because I shared ERFing links. All I can think is her poor kid, if something happened..

A LOT of parents turn their babies at 6 months here. It freaks me right out. At my first visit to the child health nurse (like plunket) Jody was just under 6 months and I was told to turn her to ff already.

Not only does she ff her 5 month old she just will not shut up about me ff'ing my 2 month old. She can make her own parenting decisions but i wish she'd stay the hell out of mine.

I've now got the only RF baby in my coffee group, and I'm yet to see another RF toddler in the daycare carpark.

I was asked how her carseat was going at the 9mo plunket check and reminded that they recommend RF until at least one. I replied that she's definitely still RF and will be for some years yet. She asked me why I'd decided that, and I mentioned some of the stats and she replied "man, I wish all my mums took the time to do some research!" and congratulated me on being so sensible. Apparently an awful lot of babies are FF by the 9 month check

Bowie, that lady needs a boot up the behind!! Just tell her that you prefer your baby alive, thanks.

woah 3 months that is insane !!!!! I can kind of get 1 year cause that is what plunket recommend but come on 3months !!! poor baby :(

shadowfeet wrote: I'm so annoyed, I bought an extended RF carseat for DD and it seems like she's outgrowing it at a rapid pace. Need to find the manual again. She's got a long back but 16 months and 10.7kg is really dumb for a carseat that can RF to 16kg.

most children will outgrow a rearfacing carseat in height before they do weight..my daughter had 1 inch of hard shell left in the cosco yet still had about 2kgs before she got to the weight limit.

the idea behind carseats with high rearfacing weightlimits is that in theory parents will keep their child rearfacing for as long as possible.

so it is important to not only look at weight but also height.

Ok, I can't NOT say anything anymore. What on earth is it with this SCAREMONGERING??? There are 1000 sad movies on you tube about ANY kind of scenario involving children, take your pick.
People make their decisions based on what they think is best for THEM, like you ERFer's (and I feel like a complete twat writing that) and just because they choose to do something different to you does NOT make them a bad parent? Have you though about side impact crashes? Crashes that happen when you roll? A truck ploughing you? RF or not, everyone is going to get hurt and NOONE WANTS their child to get hurt and choosing NOT to RF your child does not mean you WANT to hurt your shild.
So why dont you ERFers get "all up in my grill" about why I FF MY daughter at almost 8 months?? I DARE you. And *OMG* I travel ALL the time too, so OMG the RISK I took.
See the thing is, you would see my child FF in the car and think OMG call CYFS, but what you wouldn't see is the child that sceamed constantly when she wasn't throwing up with chronic car sickness. And when you travel hundreds of KMS every other week, car sickness SUCKS.
So take your judgy judgerson attitudes about FF and think about the situation that may have lead to "early" FF...

To me, these kind of threads would be like me putting up links to all the hundreds and hundreds of research and articles and stuff about how bad formula is and what it does to kids (and imagine the outcry if I did), or links to non vaccianting research and articles,but I WONT cos its not my business what choices people make regarding their kids.

Personally I think a bigger thign to get your knickers in a twist about with kids in cars is people who drink and drive with their kids or smoke in their cars with kids.

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