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    Posted: 14 June 2010 at 3:55pm
Hi just wondering if there is anyone else out there that has been diagnosed with unexplained infertility. I am 29 and DH 27 and we have been TTC for 2 1/2 years now. We have been to Fertility Associates in Auckland and they have done their standard tests and said we have unexplained infertility. We have tried several treatments such as Clomid and IUI with none being sucessful. We are currently on the IVF public funded waiting list which will be approx one year to wait. I have regular monthly cycles and DH has good sperm count.

Just interested to see how many other people are out there in the same situation as us, and what other tests can be done to try and find out what could be the cause of this infertility.
Me 32, DH 30
TTC 4+ years
Unexplained Infertility
IVF#1 - Chem Pregnancy,no frosties
IVF#2 - BFP!!!! Plus 1 frostie

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your blurb sounds just like us! except for the ages that is!

we are with FA also - have done clomid and IUI and now leaning towards IVF - totally unexplained and yet had only 6 months of trying for our DD (now aged 3.3Yrs).

all the best....
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Hi Bombshell, thanks for replyinh. Glad to know we arent the only ones out there. I have chatted to lots of ladies on here but it seems they all have reasons as to why they are having trouble TTC.

Did you conceive DD naturally after 6 months of trying? But now you are having problems with TTC #2, is this correct? Who are you seeing at FA? Have they got you to do any tests to see what is causing the infertility? Thats one thing which annoys me at FA, they do their standard tests but if all come back fine then they say last resort is IVF, they dont actually help you to get to the bottom of the problem. I have decided to go see a Natropath to try get some answers there.
Me 32, DH 30
TTC 4+ years
Unexplained Infertility
IVF#1 - Chem Pregnancy,no frosties
IVF#2 - BFP!!!! Plus 1 frostie

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Hi Tiff8ny
We are the same (although 5 years of trying to get our son - now 11 mths and now trying for our second).
Unexplained fertility is quite common (I think about 30% of couples with fertility problems).
Sometimes even very small hormonal imbalances which wouldn't be detected by standard medical tests can have an impact on fertility so a naturopath is a good idea. Acupuncture is also good and has some proven results in studies. Also, a good clean diet with plenty of fruit and veg and limited sugar, preservatives etc and no alcohol, caffeine, tobacco can make a difference. Good luck!
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Hi mountain girl, thanks for all that advice! Will defin try and follow that and see what happens and I am in the process of trying to see a natropath which I think should help us.

Wow 5 years TTC - that must of been so hard! How did you do it, I have struggled and its only been 2 1/2 years so far for us. If you dont mind me asking did you just fall pregnant after 5 years of trying or were you on some other form of treatment to conceive.

All the best for TTC # 2
Me 32, DH 30
TTC 4+ years
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IVF#1 - Chem Pregnancy,no frosties
IVF#2 - BFP!!!! Plus 1 frostie

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Hi Tiff8ny, we conceived via IVF although not because of unexplained infertility. Just thought I'd mention Brad Crouch if you are thinking of going down the naturopath route - he specialises in infertility treatment via naturopathy. Not sure where you are located though - he is in Browns Bay, Auckland.
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Hi Lulu, congrats on your birth via IVF. Glad to know IVF does work! I am in west auckland so Browns Bay isnt too far for me. Does he have a website I could look at?
Me 32, DH 30
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IVF#1 - Chem Pregnancy,no frosties
IVF#2 - BFP!!!! Plus 1 frostie

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hi tiff8ny

it took us over 4 years to concieve DS1. we ended up concieving him naturally. But i have since seen an excellent naturopath.
i would highly recommend motherwell natural health they specialise in mothers, babies, infertility e.t.c.
The naturopath rebekah is excellent and can help with fertility issues. With her help it only took us 6 months to conceive DS2. Using herbs and sticking to a good diet.
they have a website and are based in mt eden.

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Hi Yummymummy 2, thanks for the reply. Did you have any reasons why it took you over 4 years to conceive? Hard to beleive after 4 years of TTC and nothing happened that it can happen just like that, that is really insiring thank you for sharing - it gives me some hope yet

I have looked up Loula at Natural Fertility-Womens Health which I think is the same place as Motherwell in Mt Eden. They seem to be well known. I need to get our tests results from Fertility Associates, do you know if they give these out? At the time they just told us over the phone everything was good but nothing on paper. But need to get test results for the naturopath.
Me 32, DH 30
TTC 4+ years
Unexplained Infertility
IVF#1 - Chem Pregnancy,no frosties
IVF#2 - BFP!!!! Plus 1 frostie

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HI Tiff8ny,

We had unexplained infertility and it took us 2 years to get pregnant. We are going to try again soon for our 2nd so fingers crossed it doesnt take as long!

I went to F+ via public and also was booked to see FA privately (for IUI) to hurry things up (Im 35y now).

I didnt have clomid as there was no reason why I needed it so they said no point in trying it.   

I had a laproscopy to see what was going on in there (no problems found) and a dye put through my tubes at the same time. Within a couple of months I was pregnant. I think my tubes had a good flush out and if i have probs this time, i will try to get the dye put through again for a clean out.

Unexplained can be so hard as there is no reason given, so you just don't know. It sux and I also found it hard finding someone else who had unexplained as most people i spoke to had a reason and were on the IVF list alot quicker than I was, which is fair enough but was hard to deal with at the time as there wasnt much I could try and it was horrible to hear the "just keep trying, it will happen one day" spiel.   I got lots of support from OB and there is an infertility thread incase you havent seen it.

Good luck hun, I hope you don't have to wait too much longer!!



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Hi, I just wanted to share this with just in case you gain some value from it.

I am 29 and have a regular cycle of 30 days. I was TTC for 12 months and was just starting to go down the FA path. Just when I got the referral I finally got my first ever BFP. The only thing that changed was that the previous month I changed jobs...from shift work (night and day) to a regular mon-fri 9am-5pm job.

I have no doubt that my crazy work hours was the cause of why it took us 12 months to conceive and my GP agrees.

This is just an example where the cause was not something medical but more physical. I'm not suggesting this is you, but just sharing in case this helps anyone. As if I had had it suggested to me, I would have changed jobs asap as I only stayed there as long as I did because I was entitled to maternity leave! Ironic huh?!

I really hope your wait isn't too much longer
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Him 35
DD almost 2 years old and...
Baby #2 on it's way!

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Hi pikelets, thanks for your reply. Its really good for me to know that there are others out there that had unexplained infertility and had babies naturally. Thats really a positive thing for me to know as at the moment I feel like its never going to happen!

I have had the dye put through my tubes to see if there is any blockages but there wasnt any. They never sent me to get a laproscopy though which I am wondering now why they didnt. I totally understand what you mean with the waiting for unexplained infertility, esp when they say for public funding you have to have been trying for 5 years before you can get any treatment - its such a long time to wait & to be dissapointed every month when it doesnt happen and yet people with problems get through faster. And your right I get sick of the "dont worry it will happen" spiel too and esp cause they all say we are still young! All the best for TTC #2, I really hope that this time is alot quicker for you!


Thanks also Bobsta for your reply. I know what you are meaning, I think it comes down to stress sometimes. And I have tried to remove the stress problems out of my life and hopefully this will make a difference, however the not being able to conceive makes things very stressful each month. I am going to see a naturopath soon so hopefully that should help with that.
Did you lose your baby?? I am really sorry if you have, and hope that this time trying is alot quicker for you

It is so good to know that there are others like me that I can talk to and get this great advice
Me 32, DH 30
TTC 4+ years
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IVF#1 - Chem Pregnancy,no frosties
IVF#2 - BFP!!!! Plus 1 frostie

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I can't find a website for Brad, but if you google him you'll find alot of information from people who have had success after engaging his services.
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Thanks Lulu, I will look him up
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IVF#1 - Chem Pregnancy,no frosties
IVF#2 - BFP!!!! Plus 1 frostie

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hi there T!

DH and I have been trying for 18mths, this is our 17th cycle.

we're in the unexplained infertility at the mo but are undergoing procedures to see if we can find out why we are conceiving. dh's sperm count is all good. i've had ultrasounds, the hsg (dye) xray and am currently waiting on going in for a hysterscopy (a camera into my cervix) and laproscopy to see if they can see what's going on. i'm just starting cloimd this cycle in the hope that will work and i won't have to do the surgeries!

best of luck with your journey hun, it's so frustrating. i truly hope you get your bfp very soon.

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Hi mollymoo, thanks for the reply. You sound like us so far. Are you going through Fertility Associates? If you dont mind me asking do you have regular periods? I am wondering why they havent sent me for a hysterscopy and laproscopy. They told me to have the HSG but not the others. Strange
Good luck for you with Clomid, I tried that but sadly it didnt work but FX for you that you get a positive result with it! Please keep me posted on your clomid journey.
It is defin a frustrating time knowing that its unexplained!!
Me 32, DH 30
TTC 4+ years
Unexplained Infertility
IVF#1 - Chem Pregnancy,no frosties
IVF#2 - BFP!!!! Plus 1 frostie

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hey T- yip regular cycles. i did start vitex which shortened them to 28-31 days and i ovulate regularly.

i would ask about the other procedures if i was you. we are seeing a fertility specialist privately but have been referred back to public for the surgeries so we don't have to pay.

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Yes I might ask them about the other procedures as Im sure i should prob have them too
Me 32, DH 30
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IVF#1 - Chem Pregnancy,no frosties
IVF#2 - BFP!!!! Plus 1 frostie

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Hi T thanks for posting this thread, as you can see there are lots of us out there with unexplained infertility and it really helps me to be able to talk to others who understand how hard this journey is.

I'm nearly 36 and my DH is 37 and we've been TTC our first baby for at least 2 1/2 years, but TBH I've lost track of how long it is, seems like forever. I'm with FA now and have had a laparoscopy and dye (all completely normal) and numerous BTs which seemed to confirm I was ov'ing normally. It's only in the last few months that the CD21 BTs have shown that I might not be, so I'll be starting Clomid next cycle.

I would definitely recommend going to see a naturopath, I've been taking pre-conception vitamins for nearly two months that my naturopath prescribed via an Australian clinic (check out http://www.fertility.com.au/) and they seem to be helping my hormone levels and general health.

I've found charting my temps and other fertility signs have been really helpful, as are OPKs that I've just started using. You're very welcome to join us in the Charting Girls thread anytime!

Otherwise writing a diary, exercise, yoga, counselling and the support of friends and family and the lovely ladies on OB have been the best ways of managing the TTC rollercoaster ride for me.

All the best and I hope you get your BFP really soon

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Hi Anja22, yes i pop into the charting girls thread every now & then. I have only started charting & using OPK this cycle which has really helped me so might get involved with that thread also. I need to set up a FF chart so I have my charts all online, it seems really useful.
I understand about how hard the journey is, it is very frustrating being told its unexplained infertility yet nothings happening after 2 years of TTC so then I assume something is wrong that they havent picked up on
I have booked in a Naturopath appointment with Sherran at Motherwell in Mt Eden for 9th July so counting down until that now and hopefully they can help us to conceive naturally and we dont have to go down the IVF path next year (FX).
I really love all the support & chat that goes with OB, I think these forums are such a great idea and helps you understand that your not the only one going through this journey of not being able to conceive, plus it gives you hope hearing sucess stories.
All the best for your Clomid! I really hope you get your BFP really soon too
Me 32, DH 30
TTC 4+ years
Unexplained Infertility
IVF#1 - Chem Pregnancy,no frosties
IVF#2 - BFP!!!! Plus 1 frostie

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