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    Posted: 05 February 2012 at 7:53am
I'm sure there has been a thread about this before but I can't find it anywhere. DS has just turned 2 and weighs about 15kg. He is in the Safe & Sound Meridian AHR carseat which is supposed to last him till 18 kg.

The problem is that he has worked out how to get his arms out of the straps. This is terrifying - especially if I'm on my own with him. I just don't feel safe driving anywhere unless I have my husband with me which is totally impractical!

Tightening the straps further only makes the problem worse, because the slots that the straps come through are slightly below his shoulders, so tightening them actually encourages the straps to come down the sides of his arms. I've looked at a bunch of other carseats online this morning but they all seem to have the same design (unless we were to go to a booster type seat which he is too young for).

I seem to remember reading on these forums about someone with a similar problem and I think someone suggested a clip or something, like a carabiner or similar?? Not sure how that would work - any tips or advice would be much appreciated!
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I think you're looking for something like this...

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Yes!!! Wow, thanks :)
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Yep they're brilliant, you might get like us and the threat of putting it on is enough for them to keep the arms in
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What a fantastic invention. Came across this thread just by chance, but we have the same problem! Will be going out and getting one tomorrow :)

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The only thing is that they may not work if your straps have padding in them - I couldn't get it to go on mine.

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This was great for about a week until DS figured out how to undo it. Houdini indeed. Thankfully he's stopped 'escaping' for now!!


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Lol, MrsEmma that's my fear too! Childproofing doesn't work with DS - eg he worked out how to open all the cupboard latches etc within a few weeks and now he even closes them again after he'd finished ferreting around in there.

Interestingly, one retailer I spoke to said they won't stock the Houdini Stop because the have been "some safety concerns" and also because using them may void the warranty on the car seat. She suggested contacting the manufacturer for advice, which I've done and will post here if/when I get a reply. In the meantime I've ordered a Houdini Stop online, if only as an interim measure. I figure any "safety concerns" can't be as bad as actually being unrestrained!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote My3Sons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2012 at 3:48pm
The Houdini stop was a lifesaver when my DS went through this stage!!  Loved it!
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If he is forward facing his shoulder straps need to be coming AT or ABOVE his shoulders, not below.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pumpkino Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 8:56am
The instruction manual says that the straps should be anywhere from 2.5cm below his shoulders and up. So I think I will go with that - they are currently just below his shoulders but well within 2.5cm.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kellz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 2:30pm
We have the same prob here- pulling over on the side of the road to help DS gets his arms back in the straps 6 times on a 5 min drive is not fun. He got better but started again yesterday- My mum is in Auck today so just got me one of these from abbycity too- reading the begiining of your post was gonna see if u want her to get u one too, but I see u have ordered online!
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I got a reply from Britax today, which said:


"Thanks for your email and we understand your concerns however the ‘Houdini’ clip isn’t a requirement under the AUS/NZ standards and we don’t recommend you use one as in the event of an accident you may need a stranger to release your child from their restraint if urgently required – the ‘big red button’ on the buckle helps foreigners, siblings and the like to identify where the release buckle is and easily release the harness to save a child - any additional clip may cause hefty delays with serious ramifications.

If your child’s harness is threaded through slots that are below their shoulder you may need to adjust the harness to the next slot up, this could help with tightening the harness - please refer to your instruction manual for further details,

Attached is some information that may assist you. Teaching your child the importance of wearing their seat belt is the best solution."

I thought the point about strangers needing to get the child out of a carseat in a hurry was a good one - but still wonder whether driving while DS is at risk of getting out is more dangerous? The suggestion re changing seatbelt slots is no good to me - he's in the top set already.

At first I thought the final point re teaching the child about the importance of seatbelts was a bit silly given DS has only just turned 2 and the whole concept is simply beyond him, but actually the attached material was pretty good. Nothing earth shattering but worth looking at - does anyone know if I can upload a PDF to a post on here so others can see it???
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kellz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2012 at 8:38pm
I dont think they are too young to know the importance and thats what we do with DS- I refuse to drive with his arms out- thats why somethime s we have to stop heaps of times, but I kleep saying "you must have your seatbelt on, if u take your arms out I will stop the car"
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A friends daughter takes her arms out. I had no idea until I was driving her one day turned around and her arms were out. stopped the car put them back in and she didn't do it again. Talked to her mum and apparently she does it all the time.

I think thats interesting what britax wrote about the houdini stop and strangers pulling kids out, because my carseat actually comes with a similar sort of clip! Its a chest clip which I guess helps in an accident that it is another point that takes the impact. It certainly isn't coloured differently its black like the rest of the belt.


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