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    Posted: 24 November 2008 at 11:40am
OK, so I had a tear from my vjj to as far back as it can go. My stitches desolved over a week ago.
Since then it has become more painful to poo and now it really stings like birth and bleeds a lot.

So this morning I got brave enough to look with a mirror and there seems to be a little hole about half way along the perrenium.

But that's not the scariest part...
It kinda looks like my cervix/insides want to come out, like they're right in the 'doorway' (and the 'doorway' looks pretty big too)


Is it all supposed to look like this nearly 3 weeks later or have I had a prolapse (or whatever they're called when things want to come out...)

HELP!!! TELL ME IT'S NORMAL!!!
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I was too scared to look lol...

But I'd say if you have a hole that you may need another stitch. My MW had a look at everything as I had stitches too and had pain so maybe you should get yours to have a look
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I had a prolapse...but didnt look..it just felt like everything was in the wrong place and falling out.  I mentioned to my MW who checked..internal lying down then one standing up.  The cervix was definately lower standing up.  I was devestated as I couldnt imagine it ever feeling right again.  Pelvic Floor exercises where the way to go and go easy.  I found it worse when I was walking around etc.  Hurting to poo makes sense as you have to relax your pelvic floor which then drops everything you have been trying to hold up.

 

It does get better!!!!  Do your exercises and take it easy.  It will take weeks though...I didnt feel comfortable for nearly 8 weeks......and I notice now I am pregnant that passing a hard poo hurts and feels like everything is dropping again....rest of the time I feel totally fine (as fine as preggy feels).

 

As for the hole...cant help you there...but either way talk to your MW...thats what they are for

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A prolapse can be fixed with pelvic floor exercises? That's great news! I thought I would have to have some sort of surgery and all sorts of drs having a gawk/poke.
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generally its just an extreme weakness of your pelvic floor.  If it causes ongoing probs then you get surgery but they dont like to do that till you have finished having kids.  There are all sorts of other things to hold it all in place...the mind boggles but yep pelvic floor exercises is the first stop.  I got referred to a physio but by the time I got my appointment things were improving.  She did suggest starting little and doing them lying down on your back.  Also you will need to slowly start to find your abs again.....I still dont know where mine went.

 

I know I am really weak in that area now (too lazy at the time) and seem to leak urine a bit now I am pregnant.  Again I think this is more common than people let on.  I have vowed to work those muscles like crazy after this one is born.  I am scared that the same thing will happen again...it is not comfy.  I found I'd get really sore down there going for a walk around the block.  even sitting hurt some times so make the most of bubs sleep times and lay on the couch.

 

My MW told me that 6-8 weeks is a magical time...everything seems to come right.  I didnt believe her but it does!

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Cool, thanks for the advice, I have been doing the exercises and they don't feel effective so will do them lying down.

I will definatly tell mw, just wanted to ask here first so it's not so scary and I dont cry lol, yeah, damn hormones
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When you were in Hospital did someone mention making an appointment to a specialist at the hospital? I had a tear and had to have stitches and I got sent an appointment for a specialist at the hospital just to double check everything was OK down there. I also remember getting a call from a hosptial physio a couple of weeks after I got home, just for a catch up. Not sure if this is the norm or not for hospitals (this was at North Shore Hospital), but I thought it was pretty good service.....

Also my MW had a quick look 'down there' just to make sure everything was healing nicely.

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Amber, sounds normal, I honestly thought I was inside out afterwards!!! And I did not dare look just the feel was enough but seriously it all got a lot better in the last 10 days or so and things start to feel way more normal.

I hated all bm's they were painful and felt I was pushing my whole inside out.

Drink loads of water and eat kiwi fruit or something like that to ensure you do go to the loo often and its not hard iykwim. It does get easier.


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I also tore *that* way, although from the sounds of it, not as bad as you did I found I couldn't really do pelvic floor exercises for a few weeks, and even then the muscles were very weak. One piece of advice - go get some lactulose from the chemist if you haven't already! I was actually really scared every time I had to go that the stitches would rip! Lactulose was my friend for a good few weeks!
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I second allt he great advice, but also think from your description of pain and bleeding and the "hole" that you should get your midwife to have a look asap as it may be that some of it has not quite healed before the stiches disolved. That's what it sounds like anyway.... there shouldn't be any "holes" left where they are not supposed to be after being stitched.    I'd definately get midwife to have a look fairly quickly so that you don't risk ruining all the hard work you've done healing.
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Mum2Ella, I wasn't told anything about seeing the specialist but the house surgon (sp?) actually did the delivery and stitching so I guess she would do a good job.
The mw checked me the next day (or the day after?) and said she will also check me at 6 weeks unless I ask her to check me sooner, which I DEFINATLY will. I think she will come out on Wednesday.
I got prune juice today and if that's not good enough I will get some lactulose. I had lactolose at the hospital and it was great.
Yay that the vjj bit is normal(ish), that was what was scaring me the most
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I didn't look - I was far too scared. And I also didn't ask how many stitches I had! But I looked months later and its not the same as it was before.

I was told from my MW that a hole is usually where a stitch was that came apart and didn't heal properly. You should get it checked out sooner rather than later, you don't want to get an infection.

Things will get better for you over time.   

Mum2ella - I didn't get offered that service at NSH. Sounds good.


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I saw my mw today and she said exactly that, the stitch disolved before that part healed. She said it's ok though and it will heal by itself eventually.
So I just have to squirt it with water and tea tree oil, keep it clean and also dry it with a hair dryer after showering.
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Yay! Thats good to hear that it will be ok.



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Just a little advice to add to the great advice already in here. I had a 3rd degree tear and a friend told me when I needed to poo to make a fist and blow into it as this uses the same muscles you use to poo and relaxes everything down there. Sometimes you can be sitting there blowing for a little while, but it's so much less painful doing it this way.

I was referred to the tear clinic and finally had an appointment 4 months after birth. They told me that after a tear you're supposed to be on lactulose for the first 6 months!!
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Hmmm, very interesting, I will try that next poo
The prune juice is working well, I just have a small galss or two a day and I have had almost pain free poos for the last two days :)
Also the tea tree oil and water in a squirty bottle seems to be healing it well. It's getting itchy at night now, the good 'it's healing' kind.
Wow about the tear clinic advice! You poor girl to still be sore after 4 months
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