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If it were me I would try for the baby. I guess tho it would depend on the chances of you happily staying together and of how amicable your separation could be. If its a matter of growing apart then there's no reason why the baby wouldn't be loved the same amount anyway

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Thank you amcham. Its good to get some feedback, these intense kinds of issues can snowball and become massive. Its also possible that I think things through too much. Its just that its hard to know how I would feel about it all at the age of 50 when im well and truely out of the baby loop. But you are right; the baby (I have a strong feeling I would have twins!) would be loved very much by my husband and I anyway.
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Bubbles I feel like that and I'm 34 coming up to 35 this year and feel like its make or break time, I am ready to have children and am about to be married and like you I waited until I was in a stable relationship I didn't meet DF until I was 27 so no chance of having children any earlier.

My best advise is to discuss having children with your husband and what impact this would have on your relationship.

Both DF and I have decided that we don't want to get to 40 and not have kids, its just a matter of where in between then we start.

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It might sound a bit silly, but some of the best advice I could find was Dr Phils. He has a couple of questionnaires on his website that you could look at because they make you think about things maybe differently.

http://www.drphil.com/articles/article/27
http://www.drphil.com/articles/article/96

Actually I should just copy them here.

Should You Have A Baby?
It's one of the biggest decisions we make in our lives. And sometimes, spouses don't see eye to eye on the matter. Ideally, you should talk to your partner about having children before marriage. If you're already in a committed lifelong relationship and debating whether or not to become parents, Dr. Phil offers the following discussion points.

# Consider the statistics: The reality of 3 a.m. feedings, changing 10,000 diapers and the fact that a baby born in 2002 will cost $250,000 by age 18! Are you ready to sign up for this?

# A child should be wanted, not needed. Don't give a child a job before they're even here — the job of saving your marriage, of making your spouse settle down, of living out your unfulfilled dreams, etc.

# Remember that everyone loves puppies, but they do become dogs! Likewise, adorable babies do become teenagers. Make sure that you're not fixated on the infancy stage of a child's life and are in it for the long haul.

# Keep in mind that if you're happy with your home life as it is, a new addition may disrupt the balance. You have a responsibility to keep the family healthy and intact for the kids you already have, and not strain it by having another if it will threaten your marriage or family.

# In order to have a baby, it takes a yes from two people. But it only takes a no from one person to stop it. Both of you need to be comfortable with having a child. Don't force your partner into parenthood. It could lead to resentment, threaten your relationship and be bad for the child.

# If one of you wants to have a baby and the other one is concerned about the financial demands, ask yourselves if you are willing to downgrade your lifestyle in order to afford a child. If so, negotiate a budget that makes both of you comfortable.

# If you're in disagreement, ask yourself whether the problem is not that you're not getting an answer, but that you're not getting the answer you want. Could you not be hearing your partner's differing opinion? Or could you not be hearing that your partner is not committed to you?

# Don't feel guilty if the desire to have a baby isn't there. A lot of women think there's something wrong with them if they don't want to have a family. There isn't.

# This is a big commitment. If the decision to have a child is a close call, don't do it. No matter how much you estimate what the sacrifices and demands will be, you're not even close.

# Life is about choices. You choose your behavior, and therefore you choose your consequences. Don't choose the behavior if you can't deal with the consequences. Babies are a lot easier to make than they are to raise.


Questions Your Unborn Child Might Ask
Wondering if you're ready to have a baby? There are many questions that couples need to ask themselves before becoming parents. Ever wonder what your unborn child might want to ask? Dr. Phil provides some questions from the unborn child's point of view.

# What is your motive? Why do you want to have me?

# Look at your answers. Are they all about satisfying your needs? Or do they take my needs into account?

# Why would I want to be in your family?

# Do you want to have me just so that you can give me a job — to save your marriage, make your spouse settle down, or have someone who will love you, etc.? Do you think it's fair to give me a job before I'm even born?

# Does my other parent want me as much as you do? Or am I going to strain the family in a way that will make you regret having me? Will you resent your spouse for having me?

# What are your qualifications? Are you mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually stable enough to have me?

# Is the family already struggling to provide the emotional and financial needs of the children who are already here? Would I diminish the quality of life for them?

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I've been a bit like that with my DF as he keeps saying he's not yet ready, now I'm coming up to 35 I feel we don't have the time to wait for him, as long as he's ready when its born thats all that counts .

Also I don't want to have to go down the fertility route cause I've left it too late, when I know I don't have any fertility issues at all.

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wow this is an interesting topic..when my DH and i were having trouble...we got pregnant..and the pregnancy made it a lot worse..but then we had councelling (not that I'm saying that works for everyone ) and althuogh we lost the baby things have been alot better this time..so i guess I'd say I probably wouldnt but only because I know how much harder and more stressed it made our relationship..but at 40 I may think differently I imagine...good luck with your decision..
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LOL Bubbles no body has enough.
All that matters is that you are having enough for the both of you.

I have wondered how we will get on TTC when we sometimes go weeks even months without any BDing. Sorry TMI.

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Originally posted by bubbles bubbles wrote:

But the clanger is that since we have been married we havnt had a whole lot of sex! Eeek I hear you all say, that spells trouble! Well maybe it does, it probably absolutely does. Perhaps the answer for me is that its too dicey to have a baby with all this marital trouble, but then I will have to get used to never having kids, AND the possibility that my husband and I might work things out.


I wouldn't say just not having sex spells trouble - sometimes there are other things going on. I had bleeding when pregnant with Gina so sex was out of the questions as my GP ordered. Then I totally lost the urge once I was b'feeding. But we are OK - we got back into it and made bubs #2.
I think having a child is a big big decision but if you both feel like you want one then why not? Would you regret not having one later? No grandchildren? Ask yourself and him some of those questions and then decide. Good luck.
    
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Itchyfeet I was able to answer all those questions and yes fully ready and willing to become a mum and I'm not at all deluded as to what it entails.

Thanks to places like OhBaby!!

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When I was in my early 30's I was determined to have a baby whether or not I was in a relationship. I worked hard to get myself established. Then met DH and we had our first child at 36 and second at 38. I am now 40 and trying for #3 (fertility drugs sounds good because its taking some time!!).

I try to think what I would do in your shoes and I guess I would go for it because it sounds to me that the baby is wanted...whether there was one or two parents to raise it. Children have always been very important to me and I could not imagine my life without my own children. Sometimes I never thought I'd met a guy and I was ok with that.....I was not ok with not having Children.
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linda - that sounds pretty much like my life lol.  I met Karl when I was 29, but before then I had made 2 decisions 1: If I was in a committed relationship I wanted to be married before I had children. 2: Although it sounds conflicting - If I had got to the age of 35 and not in a relationship I was moving back to nz to have a baby, back here as that is where my family is. 

I had had the oppertunity to have a baby before then but it wasn't the right time & I was in absolutly no situation to bring a child into the world - I was barely scraping thru life at the time without putting another life in the same circumstances.   After I had been seeing karl for approx 18mths I gave him a choice, told him there was 3 things I wanted and if he wasnt happy to provide anyone of those things he had 3 or 4 months to move out.  They were I wanted to move back to nz, I wanted to get married & wanted to have children.  After 7mths he was still there so I asked him to marry me & we went from there - if I had waited for him we would still be seeing each other.  As for the sex thing - I sometimes struggle to remember what it is lol - yes we have our moments but we seem to just fit together as a couple whether there is sex or not.  My 2 girls were very well planned eg I had to plan the right day of the month to BD otherwise it was another month gone haha.  Between conceiving our 1st & our 2nd we had sex a total of 3 times in 19 mths   & 1 of them was after we had been in seperate countries for 3wks & it hasnt been much different up till we started trying for #3 but the sex - or lack of- isnt an issue in our relationship.  Sorry got a bit off track there but  I hope that made sense

If you can see yourself with children - with or without a husband and giving your life to supporting, teaching and loving your child/ren then I would say go for it

If you are waiting for the right/perfect time it will never happen as there will always be something to make you question your decision as that is part of life - if everything was mapped out for us without any challenges then what would we be working towards? It would just be an existance not a life.

In my opinion I think the final decision is yours (i know it takes 2 to make a child), you have to want this for you & your child at the risk of dh changing his mind at anytime cause it is far eaiser for a man to break ties than for a mum to walk away from their child by choice

Good luck with your decision

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Ashlyn(29/3/04), Anastasia(1/11/05) & Abigail (24/02/09)
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I guess maybe you could think worst case scenario- if you are lucky enough to fall pregnant and your marriage doesn't work, how would you feel/cope with that? My parents split when I was a few months old and I had a happy well rounded childhood and have a good relationship with both my parents. Is your husband keen to try for a baby or does he have the same doubts as you?

I think you are far more likely to regret not having a child than regret having one.

Good luck with your decision
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Thank you everyone. Thank you jenz, yummymummy, kezplanet, and linda, for your personal stories. This is so very touching to (finaly) get some useful outside advice. Jenz said "I think you are far more likely to regret not having a child than regret having one" and thats the truth.
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My Aunty was well into her 40's when she decided to have a baby with her new husband. Megan is now a healthy 10 year old

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lol seems I'm the only one who thinks differently:) the joys of being on an open forum.. i totally understand about not having had any baibes by 40 but it just worries me that you are in a rickety relationship as you put it.. but i guess if you are both sure you would be great parents anyway I don't suppose it matters.. I guess I've just seen the impact pregnancy has on an unstable relationship...

but best of luck to you if you decide to go ahead I hope you get pregnant very quickly and it goes very well for you:)
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Hey Bubbles. There is no greater joy than the joy of having a baby. If you want one, to have and hold and love unconditionally forever and you're in good health and willing to give your baby your time and energy - nothing else should matter.

I understand that having a rickety relationship is not the best and having a baby could break it. If you're willing to take that risk then go for it anyway.

My sister and two of my best friends are single mums and their children are good, well rounded kids. I wouldn't recommend it, it's tough, but as long as you have a great support network you can still raise a wonderful child.

There have been single mums and dads for many reasons as long as humans have been procreating. My mother in law was entering her 40s when she had my husband (the last of 8) and his dad died 3 years later so she ended up being a solo mum. It was tough but she did a great job and my hubby is wonderful - full credit to mum in law for that.

Tough decision and one I wouldn't want to make - good luck.
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I'm not implying in any way at all that single mums and dads are any better or worse at bringing up babies.. i didnt mean to imply that..its just she states she wanted children in a happy and stable relationship..
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