Coffee Catchup 10 Feb Tauranga with Dorothy Waide
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Topic: Coffee Catchup 10 Feb Tauranga with Dorothy Waide
Posted By: skiltz
Subject: Coffee Catchup 10 Feb Tauranga with Dorothy Waide
Date Posted: 07 February 2014 at 11:22am
| OHbaby! Coffee Catchup - February 10th 2014. Feel free to ask questions and Dorothy will reply when she can. |
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Posted By: Bubba001
Date Posted: 11 February 2014 at 9:59am
| Hi, can you please send me that information on introducing solids for a reflux baby. Also yesterday you mentioned a natural product (drops I think) to use what was the name? Thanks |
Posted By: BK2013
Date Posted: 11 February 2014 at 10:05am
| Hi Dorothy. I would love to know your recommended daily routine for a baby just turned 6 months old. She is fully formula fed and has been having 2 lots of solids a day (lunch and dinner). We introduced breakfast today after your talk yesterday. She has 5 bottles of formula (Nurture gold) per day. She has never been a big drinker and takes approx 700 - 800ml formula per day. I tend to feed her 4 hourly during the day at 7, 11, 3, 7 and approx 1am. I have tried offering her more bottles during the day but she ends up drinking less each time. Thanks, Kate. |
Posted By: Melanie138407
Date Posted: 11 February 2014 at 3:05pm
| Hi Dorothy, my little girl is nearly 8 months (weighing in at 8kgs as she was 6 weeks prem)and wakes once a night between 12 and 3 for a bottle which I would like to try and drop. I have tried re-settling using dummy etc but have had no luck and can often hear her tummy rumbling with hunger. She has 4 x 180ml bottles of nuture formula during the day and i have just increased her solids to 3 times a day but she will only take maybe 4 large tablespoons of baby rice at each sitting. I know each baby is different but what is an average portion size for a meal at this age or weight? |
Posted By: Nona
Date Posted: 11 February 2014 at 7:41pm
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Hi Dorothy, Thank you for all your advice on monday. My baby is 11 weeks and exclusively breastfeed. I express every now and again and freeze it and was wondering when giving my baby girl a bottle how much should i be giving her? She feeds every 3 hours 9am, 12, 3, 6, 9pm then once again either 4.30am or 6am depending on when she wakes. She only feeds off one side each feed and will not take the second side. When i express i usually get about 150mls off a side. Thanks again Fiona (friends with rochelle  )
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Posted By: Guest_69973
Date Posted: 12 February 2014 at 9:38am
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Hi Dorothy Thank you very much for Monday. My son is 4 months old and has been waking at 4am every morning for the last 3 weeks (fully breastfed). He is in bed by 7pm and sleeps until 6-6.30am. I have been resettling him but it is mainly the dummy he wants and after about 5 sucks he is back asleep at this time. Should I try to hold out a little longer before giving the dummy or will this naturally decrease once solids is introduced? Also, what is your policy when offering new foods at lunch and they do not wish to eat them, do you then offer something else you know they will eat to satisfy their hunger/or alter with baby led weaning (if doing this)? (My first son is incredibly fussy and still eats next to nothing!) Can you please advise which brands of baby cereals etc. you recommend if you are not making your own and how long you offer them for dinner. Thank you! Maria :) |
Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 13 February 2014 at 1:07am
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Hi the name of the drops is Dorothy Drops and they can be purchased from Quintessence online. ALso please find attached notes on introducing solids which will give you the foods you are asking about to avoid for a reflux baby uploads/45521/Introducing_Solids_-_2014Febohbaby.pdf" rel="nofollow - Introducing_Solids_-_2014Febohbaby.pdf |
Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 11:26pm
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Hi Kate I have attached two general guidelines for babes from 5 to 8 months. In my experience I tend to offer solids before milk, however I also work with the baby and offer the food in the order that suits the baby. If you do offer solids before milk and offering cereals I mix the cereal with milk. IF you choose to mix with water, then it is important that you give milk before the solids. As I don't cut back on their milk feeds when I introduce solids, I am happy that they are getting all their nutrients and fat from their milk whether from the bottle or mixed with their cereal. uploads/45521/Option_One_3_Meals_a_Day_5-8mths_Feb2014_.pdf" rel="nofollow - Option_One_3_Meals_a_Day_5-8mths_Feb2014_.pdf uploads/45521/Option_Two_3_Meals_a_Day_5-8mths-Feb2014.pdf" rel="nofollow - Option_Two_3_Meals_a_Day_5-8mths-Feb2014.pdf |
Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 11:30pm
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Hi Melanie I would suggest swapping her milk and solids around so that she has her solids first followed by milk and then has another milk feed before her naps. I have just posted two different types of routine that you can have a look at and see if that helps. If she is eating 4 large tablespoons of baby rice at each meal she is eating well. What is an average portion for a baby this age and size. It does depend on the baby, some of the smaller babies can actually put away a lot more food than others, I would suggest vegetable wise (lunchtime) approx 120 to 150mls - some babies wil either eat slightly less or more but hopefully that will give you a guide. Cereal wise 4 tablespoons is fine (this is before mixing) though. Babies this age will eat anywhere from 2 to 5 tablespoons - some slightly more |
Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 11:32pm
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HI Fiona If you express 150mls off one side, then this is what I would offer her. YOu may find that she actually takes a little more off one side than what you pump so if she empties the bottle and is still looking for food, then add another 30mls. |
Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 11:45pm
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HI Maria YOur son may just need to suck (comfort) himself back to sleep and ideally as he grows he will find something else to comfort himself. In my experience if you can take the time to try and resettle before giving the dummy then he may learn to resettle without it. To do this when he wakes, there are a couple of options. The first would be to get in quickly before he wakes and cup/pat/shush him back to sleep and after say 5 minutes if he is not settling then offer the dummy. The other option is to wait and see if he resettles and if he doesn't then go in and cup/pat and shush and again if he doesn't settle then offer the dummy. I wonder how heavy your baby is as I do believe that the weight of the baby along with the age of the baby is important when considering introducing solids. When offering new foods at lunchtime i.e. vegetables I always offer the new vegetable at a small portion. So if I start a baby on lets say kumara and pumpkin and then go to introduce a new veggie I would perhaps do 2 tablespoons of kumara, 2 tablespoons of pumpkin and 1 teaspoon of broccoli. The new food hopefully will be mild enough so he learns to like it. I tend to offer for 3 days and I find at the end of the 3 days they are beginning to like the new mixture. If they don't then i go onto another veggie mix and wait a few days and reintroduce the veggie again. This time I would offer 1/2 teaspoon to the mix until I find the right mixture that he will like. ONce he likes it then over time I increase the amount so that it is in more portion to the other veggies in the mix. When offering solids, I tend to offer purees and finger food. The finger food is to teach them texture, taste and smell and ideally it is what is the puree. IF they don't like a food I will always reintroduce, until they get to like it. Cereals that I offer babies are Millet, oatmeal, amaranth, wholemeal baby rice, baby rice, quinoa - although this is a low gluten food so it is my last choice on the cereal front. How long I keep a baby on cereal at night depends on the age of the baby and also how long it takes for me to get a good mix of veggies going at lunchtime. ONce I have a good mix of veggies at lunchtime, then I drop one veggie down to dinner time. For example I will start with pumpkin and cereal and then the same as lunchtime get a good array of veggies and cereal going at night time and then when i feel the baby is ready, I just drop the cereal and replace with a carb. |
Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 11:47pm
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Hi Ladies Thank you for all your questions and hopefully the answers will help you. It was lovely to meet you all at the OHBaby Coffee Catchup. Remember before you do anything STOP, THINK, and ACT – work out what you are doing, why you are doing, and what you are trying to accomplish and then act. Remember YOU are the baby’s mum and so listen to your heart and instinct. Yes, we all don’t do it by the book, or get it right the first time, but you need to make ‘mistakes’ to get it right for you. It’s a time of learning a little person’s personality and figuring out what works for your home life. If you have the time I would love to see you pop over to http://www.facebook.com/BabyWithin and 'like' it or post a comment in the 'review section" - this is the box with all the stars at the top of it. You can then keep up with information that I post from time to time or hear from other mothers who write on the wall. Also there is now a “recommendations’ section and it would great to hear your comments. Please remember as a parent or carer that you should understand and acknowledge that Dorothy is NOT a licensed medical doctor or other licensed medical provider and the information that I share with you has come from experience and working with numerous families and babies and toddlers |
Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 11:52pm
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BURPING YOUR BABY Burping is a technique that requires assertive pressure and focus. Some babies are more difficult to burp than others and you may need to choose a combination of burping techniques to release stubborn wind. Throughout, make sure your baby’s back remains as straight as possible to help open out his digestive tract. Over the knees tummy down Place your baby over your knees, with his tummy facing down and his left side farthest from you. Reach across and, curving your hand slightly, slip it underneath the tummy area then begin rhythmically patting him up and down his tummy. Mothers are often surprised to hear a sloshing noise that disappears once the gas is released. Over the knee facing upwards In this position it is easy to massage your baby’s tummy. Try the following techniques: • Using firm pressure, massage his tummy clockwise. • Place your palm just below the ribcage on his back, at the level of the waistband on his nappies, and in one fluid movement massage downwards over his nappy or bottom. Repeat two or three times. • With your outstretched hand spanning the entire width of his abdomen with your thumb and fingers on opposite sides. Gently squeeze together your thumb and fingers in a kneading motion and repeat several times. Then turn baby over and put in sitting position so that you can check their tongue. Tongue Position His tongue needs to be at the base of the mouth to effectively bring up wind. Press on his lower jaw to open it and hopefully the tongue will flop down. If this doesn’t work, then try gently ‘popping’ his cheeks. On the Shoulder Place your baby on your shoulder, facing towards you so that his chin rests on the crest of your shoulder. Using both hands, slip your thumbs under your baby’s hips and tilt upwards in a backward rotation to help straighten out his body. This may mean you lift him slightly away from your body to achieve this. Do not pull his legs to straighten them as this can dislocate the hips. Once positioned, using the same arm as the shoulder you’re using, cross your forearm firmly under his buttocks to support him. Using your palm massage the entire back with circular, clockwise motions. Firmly pat your baby ’s back a few times then, with your hand spanned across his back with your fingers on one side and thumb on the other, gently apply pressure with your fingertips and thumb, and rub up and down both sides of his back using equal pressure on both the upward and downward strokes. Your hand should be large enough - and your baby small enough - that your fingers and thumbs can reach the sides of his body. Massaging these areas will access both the ascending and descending bowels and encourage intestinal gas release. With practice, a combination of these techniques will take no longer than five minutes to release the gas from his tummy. On the Change Table Hold your baby ’s legs below the knees and gently push his legs up so the knees are placed onto his tummy. Release slightly still bent, then place them to the right side of the tummy release slight, and then back to the centre of their tummy, and then repeat movement on the left side. This movement will also help release any bowel gas. Nappy Change The act of changing a baby’s nappy actually often alleviates wind as the leg movement during changing, followed by popping your baby back over your shoulder, can be effective in bringing the bubbles to the top. |