Coffee Catchup 23rd September - Wellington
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Topic: Coffee Catchup 23rd September - Wellington
Posted By: skiltz
Subject: Coffee Catchup 23rd September - Wellington
Date Posted: 23 September 2013 at 11:36am
OHbaby! Coffee Catchup - Palmerston North 9th September. Feel free to ask questions and Dorothy will reply when she can.
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Posted By: Phebe
Date Posted: 23 September 2013 at 1:36pm
I have a 9.5 month old who is on the move and doesn’t like the buggy/highchair/car seat anymore. He arches his back making it very difficult and shouts/protests loudly – are there any strategies/tactics for easily getting him into the buggy/carseat ?
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Posted By: Gabby-yaybabyontheway
Date Posted: 23 September 2013 at 5:18pm
Hi, I am 39 weeks pregnant. Everyone I speak to says I should have the baby sleep in the same room as my husband and I for the first few weeks (in a bassinet). I want the baby to be able to self settle and I don't know if starting out like this is a good idea. Can I please have your opinion?
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Posted By: lilmissimpatient
Date Posted: 24 September 2013 at 3:01pm
Thank you so much for Mondays talk, it was great!
I have a question, with the 45 minute sleep cycle (7 week old here!) I'm finding he is waking with a roar once he hits that point, so how do I resettle him without breastfeeding him? I've currently been refeeding him to get him dozy then patting him back to sleep on my chest and I'd like to stop that hourly feeding as I'm starting to think he's snacking which is why he isn't sleeping well. I'm hoping if I get him sleeping longer, he will drink more and last longer without more feeding.
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Posted By: 3sparkles
Date Posted: 24 September 2013 at 7:19pm
Thanks for the session on Monday - it was great. My 2.5year old boy always has slightly loose poos - hardly ever solid for months and months. But he is otherwise healthy and growing superbly well, totally on track with weight and height. Any tips re possible intolerances/ what to do? Thanks
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Posted By: vj_liz
Date Posted: 24 September 2013 at 8:29pm
Hi, my baby is due to arrive next week and I've recently read thatto help distinguish between day and night I should put her down in a light room for day sleeps. With my first born he always went down in his room with the curtsins closed, but he didn't really get to sleeping through the night. I've also seen people sucessful with baby sleeping through the night from 6 weeks and they put their baby down for day sleeps in the living room during the day... What would you advise?
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Posted By: mlmk
Date Posted: 25 September 2013 at 9:51am
My 3 month old is sleeping for long stretches during the night, but only short stretches during the day (45 minutes-ish). She is clearly able to self settle as she does so at night time. Why should I encourage her to sleep longer during the day? I just assume she is getting all she needs.
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Posted By: jessiebutt
Date Posted: 25 September 2013 at 9:55am
Hello, I wanted to thank you for Monday also, was wonderful.
My question is about my 9 month old who once upon a time was a fab sleeper! He is swaddled like a straight jacket still as if i dont swaddle he wont sleep (interested to see the video of your swaddle technique). I would love to see the link to your toddler routine as im interested to try and follow this. As you suggested I switched our routine around a little, giving food first and breastmilk later. It helped. He slept really well yesterday. My problem is the nighttime sleep. I cant get him down before 9:30, he just wont sleep. Im hesitant to continue to feed to sleep and feel like this is a trap im getting into. also how long should they nap during the day? Jess and Lucas the soon to be good sleeper xx
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Posted By: My2Ts
Date Posted: 25 September 2013 at 10:21am
Hi Dorothy, It was great to meet you finally at the coffee morning! My question is about my 12 week old: he sleeps well at night (often goes down awake and only wakes once for a feed around 3-4am), but daytime sleep is becoming a nightmare. Currently he is in a miracle blanket swaddle, has white noise and is jiggled/rocked (upright) to sleep in my arms. He only sleeps for about 40 mins per nap. The last week or so he has been crying pretty hard for at least 5 minutes before each nap no matter what I do, and fussing and squirming a lot so its taking up to an hour to get him to sleep. He's very windy (often still has burps comming up an more than an hour after a feed) and quite spilly too. Is it normal for babies to cry really hard (going red in the face, hoarse throat) before sleep or is it a sign he's in pain? When he's awake I hold him upright a lot and he needs a lot of carrying/movement to keep him happy. I want to get him learning to sleep on his own gently, but should I wait till he's less windy and refluxy? Where do I start? Thanks, Rose
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Posted By: 0rose0
Date Posted: 25 September 2013 at 11:39am
Hi, Can you please tell me the name of the cream you use for eczema and any other recommendations on dealing with it? I have a 7 month old & a 2 year old with eczema and have been using aqueous cream in the bath, which seems to be the only thing that doesn’t make it worse. I was using it as a moisturiser until I read an article about it a couple of weeks ago but haven’t found a replacement cream yet and my 2 year olds has got a lot worse without using it, so I need to find something soon. Thanks
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Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 28 September 2013 at 8:58pm
Hi this is a tough one as a lot of babies around this age go through this. I acknowledge their feelings but I do just continue to get them into the seat as fast as possible and belt them up. SOmetimes distraction works ie holding the keys , purse etc. I also tend to say to the baby - I am sorry ...., its just a short trip to the shop and carry on. ALso your body language should not be negative but try having a big smile on your face while talking to them.
Hope that helps.
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Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 28 September 2013 at 9:06pm
Hi ideally it is recommended that the baby sleeps in the same room as you. This has nothing to do with teaching them to self settle but it is about SUID - sudden unexplained infant death. The theory is that if the baby hears others breathing then the baby will continue to breath. I always room in with a baby until either they disturb me or more importantly I disturb them.
With regard to self settling I teach my babies to do this in arms for the first 12 weeks and also to resettle in arms. see attached notes uploads/45521/ohbaby.doc" rel="nofollow - ohbaby.doc
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Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 28 September 2013 at 9:59pm
HI most babies wake up after the 45 min with a roar. The goal is to get to him before he does this so I would suggest going in around the 40 minute mark and start cupping him and see if this helps. OR the alternative is to pick him up and engulf him and cupp him back off to sleep.
As he is a breast fed baby at his age I would be expecting him to be wanting to feed every 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 hours. IT is the sleeping rhythm that dictates the feeding rhythm.
Depending on how long he takes to feed and also how long his awake times are I would suggest topping him up before he goes back to bed. I tend to do this approx. 15 minutes before putting him into bed. This does not cause a feed/sleep association as long as you feed, swaddle/sleeping bag and then into bed.
I have already posted notes on self settling and resettling for a baby under 12 weeks.
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Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 28 September 2013 at 10:01pm
Hi if you feel this is due to an intolerance then I would suggest removing the food group that you think is causing the problem and see what happens. ONce it has been out of his system for some time then slowly reintroduce and see what happens.
The alternative is to get him tested - you will need to talk to your GP regarding this. The test will probably include a blood test
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Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 28 September 2013 at 10:04pm
Hi for the first ten days I tend to sleep them in the light as most babies are slightly jaudiced. After this I do put them in their rooms with the curtains pulled. Dark is for sleeping, light is for playing.
Bedrooms are the room that we sleep in, sitting rooms are for entertaining therefore in my experience I do put babies to sleep in their rooms.
Sleeping through the night is also about teaching your baby how to self settle and resettle. Self settling is about find their sleep and re settling is about teaching them to stay asleep.
I have already posted notes on this for the 0 to 12 week age group.
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Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 28 September 2013 at 10:07pm
Hi, the reason why I would encourage her to sleep longer as although she can self settle (fall asleep) she is unable to resettle ( to stay asleep). When she starts to teeth, go through developmental stages or is ill, she will not have the ability to resettle.
ALso the question I would ask is is she sleeping through the night because she is or is it due to being overtired and just crashing at night.
The other reason is that as she is only sleeping for 45 minutes during the day then how would you expand this to two sleeps when she is six months old. Ideally by the time she is six months old her awake time would be approx. 3 hours and having two naps of 1 1/2 hours minimum.
Your question was why would you encourage her to sleep longer during the day - my answer to that would be that it is up to you to decide whether you wanted her to sleep longer. If not then don't change it.
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Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 28 September 2013 at 10:23pm
Hi I wonder what time he wakes in the morning and why you feel he wont go to sleep before 9.30pm. If he is having awake times of around 3 1/2 hours and having two naps a day then he would be ready to go to bed by 7.00pm.
I would suggest that his naps are around 1 1/2 hours otherwise he would not go to bed until late at night. So basically if he wakes at 7.00am his routine would look like this
6.30 Wakes 7.00am Breakfast - cereal followed by breast
9.45am Morning tea - breast feed 10.00am Nap (1 1/2 hours - wakes 11.30am)
11.45a m Lunch vegetables and protein, followed by breast
2.45pm Afternoon tea - breast 3.00pm Nap ( 1 1/2 hours minimum - wakes 430pm)
5.00pm Dinner, followed by breast Evening routine - bath, breast, bed
7.00pm Bed
The last awake time is shorter as babies are normally tired by the end of the day and also sometimes their naps are slightly shorter.
I would suggest not feeding him to sleep but he will need feeding before he goes to bed. This does not cause a feed/sleep association as long as you feed, swaddle and then bed. If he doesn't settle then you need to settle him either in the cot or in arms - leaving feeding to the last resort. IF you need to re feed then try and stop before he falls asleep.
I have attached the toddler routine for you to look at. uploads/45521/oHBaby_2_naps.pdf" rel="nofollow - oHBaby_2_naps.pdf
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Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 28 September 2013 at 10:31pm
Hi if you tried using my engulfing method the baby is slightly elevated in arms therefore will help with the refluxing or wind. I have posted the notes already on how to settle a baby 0 to 12 weeks in arms and this is what I suggest you do.
I would also recommend taking away the white noise and the jiggling. Jiggling cannot be done in a cot the same as rocking and I never do anything in arms that I cannot do in a cot.
Have you tried any colic drops for him I would suggest looking at Dorothy's Drops from Quintessence and will attach information on how to give them to him - slightly different from QUintessence. YOu would need to give them every feed.
YOu could also look at your diet and there are three food groups that could cause your baby to feel like this - dairy, sugar and gluten. I would suggest taking dairy out of your diet and seeing how that goes. IF there is no change after a few days, then re introduce or check that you have actually taken dairy out of your diet 100%.
Your baby would probably be happy with less movement and being held. In regard to your question should you wait, my answer is no as long as you are doing it in arms then you can start now.
It is important he learns to sleep (self settle) and resettle (stay asleep) as good sleeping patterns will help him heal with regard to his colic and reflux.
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Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 28 September 2013 at 10:37pm
Hi the name of the cream is Xmasease. I tend to put olive oil in their bath tubs, however pinetarsol is also very good - you can get a gel as well as the liquid that goes into their bath water. It does smell but is very good.
Remember that it takes longer to undress, and dry and dress a baby then to bath it. It is the soaking in the bath tub that destroys their skin so it is important to have quick baths rather than a long one.
When I am dealing with skin issues that are bad I tend to bath them morning and night, however they are quick and just really to freshen up their skin
It is important to keep their skin moist and i tend to use vaseline to do this. Vaseline will not heal but is a good moisturiser. I tend to put it on and rub it through my hands and then onto their skins - should be very thin not thickly put on and also the skin needs to be dry.
Also remember what you see on the outside of their skin will be what is happening on their inside so it is good to have a good skin specialist who believes in this theory. Diet does play an important role as well
Babies and children with skin issues do not like to be overheated and I tend to dress them in cotton
Hope that helps
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Posted By: DorothyW
Date Posted: 28 September 2013 at 10:37pm
Hi Ladies Thank you for all your questions and hopefully the answers will help you. It was lovely to meet you all at the OHBaby Coffee Catchup.
Remember before you do anything STOP, THINK, and ACT – work out what you are doing, why you are doing, and what you are trying to accomplish and then act.
Remember YOU are the baby’s mum and so listen to your heart and instinct. Yes, we all don’t do it by the book, or get it right the first time, but you need to make ‘mistakes’ to get it right for you. It’s a time of learning a little person’s personality and figuring out what works for your home life.
If you have the time I would love to see you pop over to http://www.facebook.com/BabyWithin and 'like' it. You can then keep up with information that I post from time to time or hear from other mothers who write on the wall.
Please remember as a parent or carer that you should understand and acknowledge that Dorothy is NOT a licensed medical doctor or other licensed medical provider and the information that I share with you has come from experience and working with numerous families and babies and toddlers
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