Trying but concerned!
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Topic: Trying but concerned!
Posted By: Guest_55741
Subject: Trying but concerned!
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 7:21pm
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Hi there, I have never done this before, but thinking that a bit of support in this ttc process might be worthwhile!
I am 32 yrs, my hubby is 30, we got married in April, 2011 & I have been off the pill since December 2010. We both love kids & would love to have our own. We have only seriously been trying, ie. working out when im ovulating etc, for the last 3 mths. My cycles average 25 days, & my Lh surge has happened on Day 13 for the last 3mths. What concerns me is that also for the last 3mths I have been spotting for 3-4 days before AF starts. This has never happened to me before. Also during this time I have received my first ever abnormal smear...low grade squamous cell abnormalities, awaiting a further appointment to get this checked out. Does this resonate with anyone? Hs anyone been in the same boat? I wonder if the spotting is due to whatever is going on with the abnormal smear? I also wonder if I have a shortened luteal phase & that a low progesterone level may be an issue? I'm seeing my GP tomorrow, so will ask her these questions. Just wanted to see if anyone had some advice. I should probably just stop stressing & enjoy the process...Im just longing for my BFP. That's all. Thanks. |
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Posted By: tarns
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 7:32pm
Hi there ...I would definitely suggest you are low in progesterone. Take some Vitamin B6  Your GP will hopefully organise some blood tests to check your levels etc. No idea if the abnormal smear is somehow related though.
GL and babydust to you  ------------- 
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Posted By: Guest_55741
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 7:37pm
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Thank you. That is what I have been thinking. I will try the B6. So nice to get a quick reply. Thank you
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Posted By: whimsy
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 8:44pm
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Hiya. I hope the doc can help answer your questions, but I would like to add that for me, although I don't get it every month, spotting for a few days before AF is normal. I'm 28 and on month 8 of TTC, so I understand the frustration, but hang in there, and hopefully your wait will be a short one
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Posted By: _Lou_
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 9:11pm
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Hey Guest, I also get spotting a day or 2 prior to AF arriving, so its definitely normal, but do understand you being concerned re your smear test. Hope it all goes ok for you
Feel free to join us on here, its a great place for support and I've learnt loads! 
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Posted By: frangipanigirl
Date Posted: 24 July 2011 at 9:18pm
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hey guest, i too have also been trying since december as well and also get 2 or 3 days spotting before each AF this is normal for me as i get it every month!
I have also had abnormal smears so i know exactly how you feel! if you have any questions please PM me! my advice for you is that you ask lots of questions and fully understand what the drs are telling you although im sure it will be all fine as it it for many girls out there who get abnormal smears! ------------- 1st round IVF 7 Eggs, 6 fertilised, 1 transferred with 5 on ice! http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: ooligator
Date Posted: 25 July 2011 at 9:48am
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Hi, it's good that you've identified some issues that are of concern, as they can impact on your ability to conceive.
I have short luteal phase, my cycles range from 22 days to 28 days, and I ovulate normally 8-9 days before my AF starts. Anything less than 10 days in luteal phase length (2nd half of the cycle after you ovulate) is deemed insufficient to conceive on. Ideal is 12-16 days. Vitamin B6 is a good supplement to take that will both help eliminate the spotting before AF and can (in some women) help lengthen their luteal phase. While spotting before AF is normal in the sense that it happens to a lot of women, it's not "normal" in the sense that it shouldn't happen. It's a sign that the progesterone level is dropping too early. Get your GP to check your prolactin level, the other hormone related blood tests ideally need to be done on set cycle days, ie; CD3 and CD21. Don't expect too much from the blood test results though, as the range of "normal" is quite wide, and even though you may come back as within normal range, you can still have difficulty conceiving, as I show normal range blood test results, but have difficulty conceiving. The cell changes in your cervix may also be causing spotting. Good luck whatever you find out. There are many routes you can take if your bloods come back as "normal" and/or your GP is unable to help other than telling you to keep trying. ------------- Me 38 DH 39 DD1 - 3 years, born prem at 30 weeks after 5 years TTC DD2 - born prem at 33 weeks http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: babycrazy
Date Posted: 25 July 2011 at 7:48pm
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Hi,
Not sure if my 2 cents worth will be helpful but I'll try. We have been ttc for over 20mths now. In Feb I had the usual tests done which showed my progesterone levels were 'normal' via BT, however during the same cycle I was also tested, via saliva, by Patient Advocates in Tauranga and this test came back extremely low (as in so low any pregnancy would result in miscarriage). I have now been using progesterone cream along with some other things prescribed by Patient Advocates for almost 5mths and have had huge success in fixing my levels. I never really had pre-AF spotting but had all manner of other awful PMS that plagued my whole tww...cramping, mood swings, sore boobs..I struggle to remember the whole lot as now I don't get a thing apart from mild cramping the day AF arrives. My cycles were ranging from 26 to 35 days but are now 27-28 days in length. I have also had an abnormal smear which apparently relates to the lack of progesterone which results in oestrogen dominance. Phew..a novel..I'm sorry but just wanted to share my story and hope that it helps. Like Poco said...ask lots of questions whatever you decide to do and if you're not satisfied with the test results from the doctors keep exploring your options. All the best :) ------------- TTC since Oct 2009 4 x DI's failed IVF1 CP & MC IVF2 CP IVF3 Angel baby born 22.3wks |
Posted By: Mumma2be
Date Posted: 28 July 2011 at 8:29pm
| Hi babycrazy, could you tell me more about the Patients Advocate? How much does it cost to get tested/buy cream etc? Do they presribe the cream or does your doctor. Also just wondered what the difference is between seeing them and seeing a doctor for the testing, can they test for things doctors dont? |
Posted By: Guest_55741
Date Posted: 05 August 2011 at 1:50pm
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Thank you so much everyone. I have started VitB6, so I'll see if that makes a difference this month. The Doctor was not my usual one, but at this stage she sees no cause for concern. We have officially only be trying for 3mths, so will give it another 3mths before me & hubby get some tests done. In the meantime, here's hoping we will get a BFP.
Thanks again for all your comments.
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Posted By: babycrazy
Date Posted: 05 August 2011 at 3:04pm
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Hi Mumma2be - sorry just read your post now!
Patient Advocates is are specialists in Natural Hormone Therapy and treat an amazing amount of hormonal issues. My mother recommended them after she had worked with them to help her during menopause. They can do everything over the phone and via post so you don't need to be in Tauranga to see them. From memory the initial consult was $120 for an hour. Other costs include the cost of the saliva tests or bloods if you need them then postage to send them to where they need to go (saliva tests get sent to Chch). The cream is about $80 a pot which lasts awhile. I had a double dose so it ran it quickly but this new pot is going further now my dose has changed. They prescribe the dosage etc for the cream however you have to get an actually prescription from the doctor - they send a letter directly to your doc and you make an appt with the doc. I've only had the day 3 and day 21 tests done at the doctors as I started with PA the same cycle. She uses saliva to test progesterone where the doctor uses blood. No idea the difference. I have found PA to GREAT and really hoping to get my BFP soon now that most things should be sorted out as far as hormones go. 1 thing I should mention is that my DH hasn't been tested yet (ruddy men!!!) but PA is going to test him at my next appt if not UTD by then and apparently she can test him through blood....will be interesting to see! Anywho its a novel but hope that's helpful. Feel free to PM me any time! ------------- TTC since Oct 2009 4 x DI's failed IVF1 CP & MC IVF2 CP IVF3 Angel baby born 22.3wks |