Cloth nappies at pre-school
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Topic: Cloth nappies at pre-school
Posted By: MissAngel
Subject: Cloth nappies at pre-school
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 8:43am
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Right so we made the desision to change to cloth for Lily because it's just so expensive with sposies now. Its been going really well, but shes going to pre-school 2 full days a week now, so i've had to start buying sposies again. Thomas and Lily are now in a different size nappy - they were both Toddler size for ages which was really handy, but now i'm spending $50 a week on nappies again!
So after that ramble - are there any websites or flyers or ANYTHING I can use/do to convince my pre-school that they should let parents bring in cloth nappies? Gosh, I have more issues putting on and disposing of a sposie in the bin than I do with a cloth one now! And we use real nappies - not pockets! Help! I'm over this. It wouldnt be so bad if lazy mr3 would toilet train >< ------------- Alex, Thomas and Lily http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 9:34am
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So you use flats? Our daycare initially said no to flats as they take too long to do, but yes to MCN's. They have since changed as one mother made a little contraption to hold the nappy together so it's just like putting an MCN on.
Good luck! TBH I'd be a harsh b*tch and MAKE my 3yo TT, because of the cost. But that's a whole other story! |
Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 9:54am
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I'm still having a battle with two potential daycares, its non-negotiable for DS to be in a sposie for me as it makes his bum sunburn red after one so a whole day would destroy him. I have been in with itti AIO which couldnt be any simpler to use and been refused. One said it was a health hazard because the nappy is sitting around in a wetbag, the other said its too much extra work and that rules are rules and they can't negotiate. Things to try though - go in and show them exactly how easy it is, offer to provide flushable liners so they can just tip poos away OR tell them its ok to just roll up the nappy poos and all. Show them the wetbag you would use and that they keep the dirty nappies secure so other kids couldnt get in and that they dont smell.
Also baby first arent the easiest nappy to use, even pockets are easier if you are sending them prestuffed. Perhaps worth taking along a few different brands, whatever you have and seeing if they will agree to use any of them. Good luck! |
Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 9:55am
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Or by 'real nappies' do you mean all-in-ones, like itti bittis? Because they're super-easy...
Perhaps you could call round and canvas some local preschools to see who accepts them, and then if most do, put that to your one? I know my daycare was cool with them, they even seemed quite proud to show off the bin they'd reserved for his naps etc. They do ask we use liners, but I'm cool with that. -------------   
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Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 9:55am
| Oooh also might be worth asking on the cloth nappy network i've seen threads there before from people trying (and sometimes succeeding) to get their daycare to take cloth. |
Posted By: MissAngel
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 10:10am
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real nappies as in the real nappies brand that are flats with covers. We use the tri-fold system like the inserts for pockets inside the cover. They're super simple with no mess! I'd be completely happy for them to whip the whole thing off, cover and all and put it in a bag provided and have a fresh one on - doesnt bother me having to deal with it when I get home (we use flushable liners - ahhh what bliss that is) but no :/
as for the TT, he just poos everywhere and wees everywhere and it doesnt matter how many hours and hours he sits on the toilet. just not ready! Summertime will be different - he will be outside with undies all the time :D From memory, all the pre-schools where I live didnt use cloth (this is like 4 years ago when we were finding out mind you) so I might try calling a few up. the staff where the kids are dont mind cloth at all, its just centre policy. ------------- Alex, Thomas and Lily http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 10:59am
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what are the prschools reasons for not allowing them? ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: MissAngel
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 11:26am
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Hygiene apparently. I fought the fact that a cloth nappy is MUCH more hygienic than a bucket full of sposies. They do however use the nappy recycling facility we have here in Canty, which is good. ------------- Alex, Thomas and Lily http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Bky
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 1:03pm
I guess I'm lucky then that the ABC my daughter goes to allows me to send along cloth nappies.  I asked about it when I was interviewing them and they said no problems. We use pockets, and send along a wetbag, but the type issue never came up. I find they change their policy on storing pooey ones every so often (but the staff do whatever is easy for them -so sometimes they end up in the wetbag, sometimes in a plastic bag in the laundry room which is a teeny bit of a scavenger hunt, but oh well).
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 1:19pm
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Maybe then you need to show them it will not impact hygiene. Perhaps provide them a bucket with a lid or wetbag for the dirty ones. I assume the dirty disposables are kept in a separate room anyway. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: MissAngel
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 7:42pm
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They're kept in a locked cupboard under the changing bench with a sealed lid so there's no smells. ------------- Alex, Thomas and Lily http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: LJsmum
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 7:56pm
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The day care i work at it's not a problem at all. We have child using MCN and as MissAngel said the bucket is in a cupboard under the bench, so no smells from the bucket and no problems.
The only problem we have as teachers is that they leak a lot but that may be the type he is using. Our centre has no issue with MCN it's fine by us and really it's the paretns choice. We follow individual routines so if the child wears MCN so be it, If the parent wants us to rock/ cuddle the child to sleep so be it. 
Good luck, stuck to your guns. Find a centre that will do it or come to mine  -------------  
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Posted By: MissAngel
Date Posted: 16 July 2011 at 8:02pm
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Hehe bit far to go to yours! I wont change the kids now - thomas has been there 3 years already. ------------- Alex, Thomas and Lily http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 10:34am
i wouldnt imagine it would be too hard then to put another bucket in there. everything else should be the same, you take the nappy off, put it in the bucket and wash your hands! Hygiene is a very weak argument. I would challenge them on it! ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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MissAngel wrote:Posted By: blossombaby
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 10:37am
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My 10month old is at daycare 3 days a week - shes in cloth there (itti bittis) shes the only one tehre in cloth and they don't seem to mind. But supply sposies as part of the 'fee' so its a bit different to your situation i guess. I have told them that if its a bad day etcetc I don't mind DD in sposies but they have to put lots of cream on her bum otherwise it looks sunburnt. One day last week I got up late so she was in sposies because i didnt have time to pack the cloth lol. To be honest i don't blame daycares for not using them i think cloth is such a personal choice and to someone who doesn't know the pros to them I is likely to be a hassle.
$50 a week on nappies?? thats crazzy?? - Doesnt your preschool not supply sposies in the cost?? Could you buy cheapies for daycare?? ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 10:41am
I honestly can't see that there would be an actual hygiene issue... I mean, you do nothing different except that instead of putting them in a bin with a plastic liner, you put them in a different bin with a plastic liner and instead of someone picking up the bag to take them to the garbage, they pick up the bag to take them home  -------------
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Posted By: happymumma
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 12:30pm
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It would be really interesting to know what these centres policies are on the children who are toilet training and how they manage with soiled undies!! I don't really see what the difference in terms of hygiene is and my understanding is that they have to assist with toilet training (though I'm not sure where I got that idea from). I'm not sure what our daycare policy is on mcn. I had been intending to ask so I think I will now. Switching would save me a whole pile of money too. Our previous centre encouraged cloth. They provided biodegradable disposables until children were 2 and a half and then encouraged any parents who weren't already using cloth to switch. They also washed and dried cloth nappies on site. |
Posted By: MissAngel
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 6:58pm
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Our preschool doesnt provide nappies. I pay $19 a day before the 20 hours free ECE and that pays for the kids to be there and be cared for etc. We provide our own lunches.
I use huggies on the kids - everything else seems to fail for us :( I'll speak to them tomorrow I think about it. ------------- Alex, Thomas and Lily http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Kimnthekids
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 8:52pm
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I bring along a wet bag, and have the nappies all ready to go. I use flushable liners (an extra cost but it makes it easy for them) and showed them that the ONLY difference is that if there is poo they drop the poo into the loo from the liner (liner included) and then fold the nappy up and put it in my bag.
I had many teachers afraid to start, as they thought it would be hard, and were scared of doing them up wrong... but now - well its no hassle, and a few have mentioned they think they will use cloth when it comes time to having their own children. Thinking to what PP have mentioned about toilet trainign children, normally its shake the poos in the loo and bag the dirty undies. So really no different to nappies! ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Bky
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 8:49am
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My childcare centre uses a nappy wrapper/diaper genie type system.
Mine changed their policy a bit ago so that the pooey nappies were to go in the laundry room in buckets with the soiled undies. Sometimes mine end up in there, but often [TMI] the staff shake the solids into the wrapper system (or elsewhere? I'm not getting them back more often than not) and just toss the dirty nappy in my wetbag. I agree, if they have a soiled undies policy they should easily be able to adapt that to a soiled nappy policy. ------------- 7/2010, 10/2012 and 1/2015 |