Going Wheat Free
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Topic: Going Wheat Free
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Subject: Going Wheat Free
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:00am
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I went to the health shop yesterday and the lady there said to me that it sounds like I need to be wheat free, due to the wind pain I get after I eat bread and things like that(worse when Im pregnant) and also she could tell by my eyes....
I cant believe how many things have wheat in them, I found it hard to find stuff in the shop that I could have that didn't cost the earth! Are all gluten free things wheat free too? I really want to give this a go to see if it does help, she said I will feel much better for it. *ETA - My mum is Gluten Intolerant, so it doesn't surprise me I may have the same or similar issues. ------------- |
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Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:12am
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99% of the time if it's gluten free it's wheat free, but sometimes you can have something that contains 'wheat fibre' but contains no trace of gluten. Off hand I can't think of any example.
DH is wheat free, if he eats it his tummy gets bloated/gassy/reflux and feels extremely tired. - It pays to read the packets of things. e.g. Oak baked beans use maize to thicken, whereas Heinz beans use wheat. Sometimes just switching brands is all you need. This is the same for a lot of soups and packet mixes. http://www.mfd.co.nz - MFD is a good website that you can use for reference. - I use rice bubbles for making 'breadcrumbs' when making chicken nuggets and so on. I don't buy any special things for DH other than the Burgen GF bread. |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:18am
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Oh cool thanks for that tishy! Things like pasta and what not, that has to be gluten free? I really love pasta...(sorry if I ask dumb questions lol) ------------- |
Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:26am
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Yeah, gluten free pasta. Unfortunately it's not as nice as the real deal.
Also it's quite possible that you might be able to tolerate things made with spelt flour ( this is still a form or wheat but some people can still tolerate it). One of the sneaky things I found was that glucose syrup is sometimes made with wheat. Which means that a lot of lollies contain wheat. I was wheat free when breastfeeding as E had inherited DHs intolerance. At 3.5 she has fully outgrown it thankfully. ETA: And they're not dumb questions. It took me a long time to get my head around exactly how much stuff contains wheat 
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:32am
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hehe thanks, it sure is hard to get your head around it! I think what I'll have to do is, make meal plans for the week and check that link you gave me, and write down what i need for what I want to make. Its mainly dinners that will be an issue. For Breakfast I can have porridge and lunch I can just have gluten free bread toasted with an egg on top etc and yoghurt etc. ------------- |
Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:38am
| I'm not gluten or wheat free because i like bread, but my mom has been for about 7 years and i live with her so my diet is 99% free as a result. Its done amazing things for my mom, shes also lost a lot of weight. Glutenfree pasta isnt as nice as the real deal but its certainly not disgusting. You'll have to change your cooking as it takes longer or shorter to cook depending on brand. Like Tishy said, heaps of stuff contains sneaky wheat even when you wouldnt expect it. Like sausages. Though gluten free sausages are better as apparently they are more meat and less breadcrumb filler. Also weirdly some bacon isnt gluten free, can't figure that one out but there you go, same goes for marinated steaks/chicken/fish you pre-buy. I recommend reading labels carefully - i found wheat in a mayonaise the other day, who would have thought it! and you'll soon get the hang of what brands are safe and what arent. |
Posted By: RicKer
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:39am
| Ive been wheat free for ages and it sucks! There are also things like peas and broccoli that need to be limited because they can add to the problem. I can PM you the list my dr gave me a few years ago if you like? |
Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:39am
| Ooooh and we dont get much gluten free pasta etc as it is really expensive, just eat meals that dont have gluten to start off with, vege stirfry on rice, casserole, soup, steak n vege etc are all safe. And for the record, Dominos does a banging gluten free pizza. |
Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:43am
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Oh yes soy sauce has wheat in it too. DH has a bottle of Tamari Soy Sauce at his desk at work for when he has sushi for lunch
Also stock cubes have wheat in them so you'll need to buy some specialised ones (usually the GF section of the supermarket). Bowie is right about the sausages too. We stick to Hellers Anguspure sausages now. Chicken bacon 'may contain a trace of wheat' and DH can't tolerate this. |
Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:47am
| Its all totally bizarre what wheat turns up in. Flavourings on chips or rice crackers is another suprise wheat! Hah, it all sounds so boring. But i don't even notice we dont have wheat in the house unless i go out and buy a loaf of bread. As a side effect my mom lost a heap of weight. Thats always a bonus! |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:49am
Oh wow so many things  To be honest I dont notice wind pain after eating things like sauces and stuff, for me its mainly bread products, anything with flour like..scones, biscuits cakes etc, then I get tummy ache/wind. if I ahve a stirfry and use soy sauce etc I cant say I really notice anything..------------- |
Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 11:52am
| Thats me as well Sheza, i understand that if you cut out the big obvious wheat things you get more sensitive to it until you do end up feeling the pain from soy sauce etc. That is not scientific fact, just observation and hearsay |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 12:00pm
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Yeah I guess I'll find out! My mum notices it when she has something with gluten now. ------------- |
Posted By: RicKer
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 12:07pm
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http://shepherdworks.com.au/disease-information/gluten-free-diet
That might help? |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 12:11pm
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Yes when you cut out the big things that your body is reacting to, don't be surprised if you find yourself reacting to other thing. It's not that all of a sudden you are now having an issue with that product it's that it's been masked by the bigger allergen.
Also if you want a good porridge with hardly any cross contamination, go for the Harroways scotch oats. My boy started off wheat free but we've since found he's reaction to other things, but the simplest approach to wheat free is for those typical wheat products just go gluten free. Also for things like sauces, ie that add flour to them, go get some white rice flour from a asian store, way cheaper. Easy pancake. 1 egg, 2TB rice flour, 3TB milk. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 12:20pm
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Hey Shez, I have been GF since 2003. It's hard at the beginning but now I don't even notice it. One benefit is that you tend to eat a lot healthier as you can't eat cakes, biscuits or takeaways!
I don't have any problems with dinners because we tend to eat rice dishes with sauces etc made from scratch, plus all meat and vegies are GF! The only actual GF products I buy are bread (Dovedale Rice Chia) and pasta (San Remo which is almost like real pasta). Good Luck :) |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 12:23pm
oo I think thats the porridge I have AnC  ------------- |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 12:25pm
Thanks LR  Thats what I thought too, its going to force me to eat better, which I REALLY need to do! lol. I think I need to learn to make sauces from scratch...Im hopeless at it, my mum is great, but I always fail there!------------- |
LuckyRed wrote:Posted By: Emmi_
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 12:29pm
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Emulsifiers are also wheat (I think the one with 2000 after it, I cant quite remember). But yeah, I found the easiest way to go wheat free was but just cooking from scratch and having meat, veg, and rice (basically).
Soy sauce has gluten in it but not wheat (they arnt mutually exclusive as others have said) ------------- 
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 12:46pm
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Yeah the lady at the health shop said that emulsifiers have wheat, such a pain huh! I'll definitely have to start cooking from scratch. I'll just start with simple flavours and not get too fancy just yet haha
I just had a Gluten free bap with an egg on top for lunch and omg it was so yum! ------------- |
Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 1:28pm
Which soy sauce do you use? Any ones I've looked at contain wheat. |
Posted By: Emmi_
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 1:36pm
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oopps past my bed time, sorry!
They are gluten free but have wheat!  (not all, but some)-------------
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Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 1:51pm
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It is a huge undertaking when you first switch to a wheat free diet, but once you get your head around it it's not too bad and most foods these days have a wheat free alternative.
I went to our Binn Inn and bought a heap of different flours and did my own baking, it wasn't quite the same as regular flour food, but pretty good really. My tip - splurge and buy your bread. I resorted to making it to save money and it just wasn't the same, and turned mouldy and stale by the following day -------------  
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Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 2:12pm
| Tamari and Jellicoe make GF soy sauce and you can't taste the difference. In most GF sections of supermarkets. |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 2:13pm
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Yeah I agree on the bread way easier to buy. ------------- Kel http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 3:46pm
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Yeah the price of the flour and bread mixes at the supermarket were so pricey so I thought it would probably be better to just buy a loaf and keep it in the freezer, and take bits as I need it, I would only have it toasted anyways as it pretty yuck as is. ------------- |
Posted By: ScaredyCat
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 3:56pm
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Saw this thread so had to have a quick look, very interesting reading.
My DP likes to be gluten free, doesn't have to medically, but finds he puts on weight when eats too much breads etc containing gluten. We make our own bread and find the "Laucke" brand to be fantastic, its the first gluten free bread we have made that you can cut into slices like normal bread, tastes great toasted, not so good un toasted. We get ours from the 'Gluten Free" shop which is also online, box costs $10.00 and you get two quite large loaves for this. The Gluten Free shop also has a bakers mix for baking, and you just substitute the flour content of all baking for the bakers mix (note though, does seem to contain some sort of raising agent so you don't need to use as much of that). For sauces etc, I just use cornflour which is also gluten free. ------------- TTC # 1 - 7.5 years 2 x IVF - 4 x Trf 3 x BFP's 3 x M/c Feb 09June 10Sept 11
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 4:26pm
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We have a gluten free shop where I live so Im going to go check it out, my mum has gotten a few things from there. I might have a go at making some GF bread, I have a breadmaker ------------- |
Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 5:59pm
| Bin inn is really good for gluten free stuff too, randomly. I have somewhere the primo mix of all the wheat free flours - like you can get potato flour and corn flour and all kinds of weird stuff which used by itself isnt quite right but if you mix them in the right ratio it works wonders. I will dig it out when mom gets back. Also very weirdly not all cornflour is wheat or gluten free. Anyway, more encouringly, it will probably only take a few shops until you know what brands are good and it has a bonus as then you end up with a 'set' shopping list which is great for budgeting...going off on a tangent now! |
Posted By: pudgy
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 7:21pm
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Also try Www.mfd.co.nz - Mfd . It has lists of ' normal' food thats GF.
You can get Tamari which is GF soy sauce. I can't remember the brand though. I think Ntolerane is out Your way too. That is a fantastic shop. I second Binn Inn for flour etc. Also have a look at The Gluten Free Grocer. Its in the city but thy have a huge range of yummy stuff. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: pudgy
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 7:26pm
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Also I Found out recently that Cookie Time gf cookies have wheat fibre in them. The gluten has been removed but they still contain wheat .
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Posted By: bebebaby
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 8:27pm
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Sheza, if you are going to go gluten free, and you think you want blood tests done to check for intolerances/celiacs. Then you need to make sure you keep eating gluten, or otherwise the blood tests may come back with a false negative.
I have just started looking into this for DS, and this Dr is really onto it and has some interesting info/books http://www.drrodneyford.com/index.php - Dr Rodney Ford ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 8:51pm
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There have been some really good articles in Healthy Food Guide about food intolerances - they talk about how to do elimination diets, as you may think you have "x" but actually, it's something related, and you may end up cutting out a whole pile of stuff that you shouldn't/don't need to be cutting out. TBH, I would suggest talking to a nutritionist or dietician first (don't know if the lady in the health shop was one). ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 9:05pm
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Ohhh Champion does a great G/F bread mix BUT it contains dairy
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 07 July 2011 at 2:14pm
Yeah I honestly think for me the main things are bread and cakes/scones etc those are the things that give me wind pain, other things dont, like sauces etc. I'll see how I go, Im still eating the things I should be, just no cakes and crap...so good really lol ------------- |
Posted By: LJsmum
Date Posted: 07 July 2011 at 7:00pm
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Oh I love gluten free baps, make a great BLT bun! or a hamburger. I am also GF.
Ds1 and DH have both tested postive for celiac disease so we are a GF household! It's been a little tricky but not as bad as I thought. We also make all our own bread, but also by a loaf and freeze it and take slices out as we need it. Have replaced wheat flour in all baking recipes with a GF flour mix and it's just the same though some suff like muffins and scones don't last as long. I also make sauses from scracth and use lots of garlic and herbs in my cooking now instead of the packet slow cooker meal bases e.t.c . I also feel heaps better, not eating junk like bakery food,bread, slices e.t.c Good luck -------------  
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 08 July 2011 at 4:21pm
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Wow so I have been wheat free since...Tuesday night, and I had a fruit bar thing this afternoon without even thinking(felt sick so just grabbed it) and with in half an hour I had awful wind pain(still got it), so wheat/gluten definitely doesn't agree with me!
Im loving the baps with an egg on top though, yum!!!! ------------- |
Posted By: Bexee
Date Posted: 09 July 2011 at 7:27am
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If you want the Rodney Ford book Sheza let me know and I can post it up to you. I also have a couple of gluten free cook books if you want to borrow them.
I went gluten free for about three months prior to getting pregnant with A as I had suspected coeliac disease. Hell Pizza do gluten free pizza bases and a few other bits for takeaways and Burger Fuel do gluten free burgers. Arrowroot is good for substituting as a thickner for things like white sauce/gravy. Any questions fire away... |