Money for Vaxxing
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Topic: Money for Vaxxing
Posted By: londonbaby
Subject: Money for Vaxxing
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 4:43pm
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Hi everyone!
So this is quite a controversial topic BUT I was wondering what everyone thought about the governments proposal of paying people to vaccinate their children... I will put my hand up and say that I choose not to vaccinate however, even if I did, I think it is disgusting that money could be the reason behind someone choosing to do so. Its hard enough to make an informed decision one way or the other so I think it is extremely unfair of them to even consider this... How about you? |
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Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 4:49pm
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Is it money to sway the opinions of non-vaxers or money for all?
Not that it really makes a difference to my opinion, silly idea. Waste of money, what happened to free choice and all that noise. |
Posted By: Puddleduck
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 5:08pm
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It's probably not great to use money as an incentive for vaxxing, but if it helped a family who wanted to vaccinate but finances were a barrier - maybe time off work needed or transport related to the vaccines - then I'm all for it. I dont think that people who research and decide not to vaccinate would be swayed by a cash bonus . ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 5:17pm
It doesn't worry me (but then I'm pro-vaccinating so I WOULD say that  ).
My understanding of it was that it's not about getting anti-vaxers to change their minds on vaccinating, it's more about getting the people who would vaccinate but haven't gotten around to it, life got in the way, forgot about it etc. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: My3Sons
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 5:17pm
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dont they do this in Australia? ------------- Mum to Mr 10, Mr 6 and Mr 4 
 
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Posted By: crafty1
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 6:23pm
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Can they back pay me for my 2 boys please?! I'll take all offers of money. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 7:02pm
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Same I do see the reason of why they are doing it, the reasons we haven't had a lot of the diseases we vax against is because people have been vaxing their kids. Now we have some people making a song and dance over vax's and pushing their opinions onto other people so people aren't vaxing their children and some of those diseases are breaking out again (talking measles here). I know some people have made very very informed decisions not to vax and that is cool that is their choice, I am sure those people aren't the ones making a song and dance over their children maybe being kept away from school and ECE centres while there is a breakout. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
crafty1 wrote:Posted By: myonlineself
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 7:29pm
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I think it wouldn't sway those who are determined to be against vaccination, but I'm all for it if it would get those who are apathetic about getting their kids vaccinated to go and do it. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: fairy1
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 7:33pm
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I thought the article said they would pay people who vaccinate and people who register saying they have decided not to vaccinate. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: T_Rex
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 7:34pm
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They are not talking about paying you to vaccinate, they are talking about paying you to show up at your docs and actively make a decision. You'd get the money for either vaccinating or for declaring you've decided not to. It's to get those who "don't get around to it" to actively make a choice. So no, it won't sway your decision one way or another. But it might encourage you to make one.
Personally, I'd be surprised if it makes any difference to anyone on here - the fact that we care enough to join a parenting forum indicates to me that we'd make these kind of decisions. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Panda289
Date Posted: 24 June 2011 at 9:14pm
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I have just been sorting my forms for the baby bonus over here in Australia and yep they have mentioned to me you get maternity immunisation allowance here.. two payments which I think you get one if you do vaccinations up to 18 months and the second part up to 4 years (I only briefly read the notice on it) and its about $125 each time so $250 all up.
I have no idea if it would convince non vaxxers though? It doesn't seem like enough money to sway my opinion anyway (though after careful research we are most likely going to vaccinate) Not sure what its like in NZ at the moment but whooping cough is currently pretty big over here so when our baby arrives (hopefully in the next week  ) we will be getting vaccinated against that to protect him. Its free for all parents and their families of newborns at the moment because of how big it has gotten. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Febgirl
Date Posted: 24 June 2011 at 9:26pm
I agree. I think it's a good idea though. ------------- Two little girls under 2! 
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Posted By: mumtooboys
Date Posted: 24 June 2011 at 10:06pm
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I actually have larger issues with the other 'incentives' in the report.
At the end of the day, all they are considering is a scheme that is similar to what Australia has and even if you object you can still receive payment. Like others have stated, it is supposedly to get those who are apathetic or haven't got round to making a decision one way or the other, to make one. It could be argued that this breaches one of the basic principles of informed consent..and that's that the consent has to be free from coercion and that offering money is classed as coercion. However, that is mitigated by the fact even if you decide NOT to vaccinate you can get the money...but this is where those other 'incentives' come into play and those could be classed as coercive. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Hopes
Date Posted: 25 June 2011 at 6:36am
If it's going to work the way T_Rex explained, I have no issue with it. I don't think it's meant to persuade anyone who's decided not to vax to change their mind, rather give an incentive for the drop-kicks who can't be bothered thinking about it and are likely just to forget to do something (because people out there are sad enough to be persuaded to consider the issue for money but not for the sake of their precious kid's health  ). -------------   
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Posted By: choco69
Date Posted: 25 June 2011 at 5:42pm
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part of the reason that australia offers the 'incentive' is so that a decision is made by parents either way - as there are alot of people who start the vaccination process and then forget to continue and vaccinations get behind, so encourages parents to make the decision either way and declare that decision and if you have decided to vaccinate then it gives you an incentive to get them done at the age appropriate time, it also allows parents who have made the choice not to vaccinate to declare their decision too
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