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Topic: ear piercing
Posted By: cole88
Subject: ear piercing
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 10:23am
hi, out of interest when have people got there girls ears done? im thinking of doing alexs soon before shes old enough to remember it or touch them to much, does anybody no of a place in hawkes bay or Palmerston that do under 2yo?

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Posted By: mumzrule
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 11:06am
I just got my eldest ears done she is 3.5years. She doesn't touch them to much.
The place I took her in Wanganui had done a 2month old the week before!!

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Posted By: kiwigal
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 11:42am

I will probably get them done for her 5th birthday if she chooses so she understands on how to look after them. I was about 10 when I got them done and got that badly infected that the dr told me I had to wait until I was a lot older I think I was about 16 when I got them done again then a few years later I decided to have the second one. I haven't had any more problems after that.



Posted By: _SMS_
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 12:00pm
As far as i know not many places will do childrens ears under 6 years anymore. A friend wanted her daughters done at 4 years but noone would do them This was just in my town though.

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Posted By: chickadeedoo
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 12:00pm
I'm not getting my girls one done until she is close to 10 and understands it all.

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Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 12:11pm
Just my opinion here and feel free to ignore - but piercing guns are bad and do a heck of a lot of damage, they're unsterile and often used by the girl who sells makeup at the pharmacy. They're inaccurate, they make a loud (scary) noise and half the time they don't go all the way through. Piercing with a needle is by far and beyond the best way to go, but that means going to a professional piercer and a lot of them won't pierce that young. Its up to you what you do of course but theres my 2c.


Posted By: Richie
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 12:39pm
I personally would never get my daughters ears pierced before she is old enough to ask for it. I was 10yrs old before I decided I wanted mine done. Yes, it hurt, but I knew to expect it. It's all well and good getting them done while they are young so they don't 'remember' it but it is un needed pain and stress and I think it's horrible to put a kid through that when they don't understand.

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Posted By: millymollymandy
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 12:50pm
Personally I wouldn't do until she was older and could ensure that she was able to look after cleaning etc. I didn't have mine done till I was 19 and my aunt goaded me into it, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered. After 2 years I got feed up with irritations as a result and they grew over. I don't understand why a 2 year old would need their ears done, as surely they wouldn't be wanting this themselves? It seems a bit grown up for a toddler.


Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by nzlisajo nzlisajo wrote:

I personally would never get my daughters ears pierced before she is old enough to ask for it. I was 10yrs old before I decided I wanted mine done. Yes, it hurt, but I knew to expect it. It's all well and good getting them done while they are young so they don't 'remember' it but it is un needed pain and stress and I think it's horrible to put a kid through that when they don't understand.


Agree. A lot of my friends had theirs done from about 6-8 years old and I begged and begged to get mine done. My grandma had said to wait until I was 13 as she got hers done then and so did my mum but in the end I got them done at 10. I personally won't be getting DDs done until she is around that age too and asks for it. I do know a few people who have done it for religious reasons though.

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Posted By: Heidi7
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 1:12pm
Sorry but I'm going to jump on the band wagon as well. I won't be getting either of my daughters ear pieced until at least 10 and only if they ask for it and what I consider grown up enough to have them.

Personally I think it's looks trashy on a toddler. From about 6years I think they look nice.

Of course it's just another parenting issue that every parent has an opinion about but I hope you've stopped and really thought about.



Posted By: HoneybunsMa
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 1:42pm
I won't be getting DD's done until she asks. In saying that though did you know its common practice in Czech to get them done at birth, it comes as one of the checks that get done. (An aquaintance is Czech and we were talking about it one day) The view is that ear piercings are viewed as pretty and they want their girls to be pretty, and get them done at birth or not soon after.

She got her girl done at 8weeks or something she had to hunt down a chemist that would do it.
My piece of advice make sure you get someone who uses two guns at the same time. If you use one they have time to stress and get worked up

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Posted By: jaylea4
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 2:02pm
Both my girls got their ears pierced for their 6th birthdays, it was part of their present.
They did ask for them to be done earlier but i said No.


Posted By: rorylex
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 2:15pm
I got mine pierced when I was 6yrs with the gun and I would not get mine done with one again, yes I did want my ears pieced but I had no idea how it happened, I will never get anything pierced again. wasnt the piecing of the ears that puts me off I just think that gun is un needed a needle would have been much better. I would wait til they are old enough to decide and understand what has to happen.
but I have to admit I do think they look very cute. but im more inclide to use stick ons

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Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 2:27pm
I think pierced ears look terrible on toddlers! I don't understand the need for it????


Posted By: Richie
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 2:32pm
Phew, so glad others have the same opinion as me. I was expecting a bit of a backlash. I just wonder what the purpose of getting a toddlers earspierced is?? The child certainly isn't going to benefit in anyway. So what is the reason?? To make them look 'cute'? If so, that is a pretty sad reason really.

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Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 2:34pm
I personally think that it should be a choice she makes when she is ready (at an appropriate age). Sorry, but doing it for her just seems a bit odd to me.

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Posted By: julz85
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 2:40pm
i dont mean to be rude but i dont think Cole88 was asking our opinions on earpiercing rather than where to get them done in The hawkes bay and if anyone else has had their own child pierced . Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and many people get ear piercing for their own reasons and even religious reasons , i personally am not going to get my daughters ears pierced but thats for my own reasons and im not going to put down anothers reasons and opinions for doing something the she has oviously already decided she is doing , I understand putting your own 2 cents in if cole88 was actually asking opinions on it but she wasnt ....

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Posted By: _SMS_
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 3:01pm
Originally posted by julz85 julz85 wrote:

i dont mean to be rude but i dont think Cole88 was asking our opinions on earpiercing rather than where to get them done in The hawkes bay and if anyone else has had their own child pierced . Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and many people get ear piercing for their own reasons and even religious reasons , i personally am not going to get my daughters ears pierced but thats for my own reasons and im not going to put down anothers reasons and opinions for doing something the she has oviously already decided she is doing , I understand putting your own 2 cents in if cole88 was actually asking opinions on it but she wasnt ....


I agree. I would never get my girls ears done before the age of 10 but thats my choice. Who am i to judge if someone else wants to get there childs done before that.

I think its one of those topics that are going to get out of hand anyhow.

But if you do want to get your girls ears done thats your choice. Id be ringing around places to find out if they do it, although like i said in my other post i dont think many do it for under 6 yr olds now.

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Posted By: pudgy
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 3:08pm
Originally posted by Bowie Bowie wrote:

Just my opinion here and feel free to ignore - but piercing guns are bad and do a heck of a lot of damage, they're unsterile and often used by the girl who sells makeup at the pharmacy. They're inaccurate, they make a loud (scary) noise and half the time they don't go all the way through. Piercing with a needle is by far and beyond the best way to go, but that means going to a professional piercer and a lot of them won't pierce that young. Its up to you what you do of course but theres my 2c.


^^^ this. It just seems completely inappropriate to me. And having had onfected pierced ears myself I'd hate to inflict that sort of pain on my child. Especially at an age where they cannot understand whats going on.

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Posted By: julz85
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 3:11pm
BTW cole88- im not too sure where to get them done but maybe ring around piercing places and pharmacys in the yellow pages . you might wanna look into gun vs needle as Bowie said i beleive needle may be more hygenic and a little less scary but thats entirely up to you  .

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Posted By: Isabella
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 3:28pm
Deleted my post... Didnt want to get into a debate when a simple question was the topic..


Posted By: Mucky_Tiger
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 3:31pm
I agree with bowie, it needs to be done with a needle not guns.

I got mine done at 10 with a gun, and they were constantly infected for a year. I took them out to let them be treated properly and ended up having to go get them repericed by a huge diameter needle with special gunk on it to clean out the hole track in my hear and them put keepers (ring ones) in to get them to heal, the hole from the huge needle closed over to the diameter of the keeper, but as a result I can only wear keepers, studs make my ears instantly go infected as they re'perice a straight hole through my ear rather than follwing the curve shaped track I have.
(I wanted to leave them unpierced after getting the gunk put through but it was deemed I had to get the keepers in as otherwise my ear lobes with heal with huge lumps of scared cartilage stuff at the front and back and look worse off)

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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by julz85 julz85 wrote:

i dont mean to be rude but i dont think Cole88 was asking our opinions on earpiercing rather than where to get them done in The hawkes bay and if anyone else has had their own child pierced . Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and many people get ear piercing for their own reasons and even religious reasons , i personally am not going to get my daughters ears pierced but thats for my own reasons and im not going to put down anothers reasons and opinions for doing something the she has oviously already decided she is doing , I understand putting your own 2 cents in if cole88 was actually asking opinions on it but she wasnt ....


I agree! She didnt ask for opinions.

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Posted By: newmama
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 8:37pm
all i can say on this is lucky that its not your ladies decision on this - she was simply asking advice not to be judged. i used to work at a pharmacy ( i never pierced the ears cause i was to chicken ) but the "makeup" pharmacy girls i worked with went through training for it and the gear was very sterile in fact much more sterile then you would know. i totally agree though on getting two guns at a time

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Posted By: cole88
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 8:40pm
thanks to the people that are not judging, for all the other people no it could be for religious reasons, but you didn't even ask why, just judged anyway, but thanks for the information was helpful :-)

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Posted By: mothermercury
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 8:48pm
Originally posted by newmama newmama wrote:

...the gear was very sterile in fact much more sterile then you would know. i totally agree though on getting two guns at a time


I'm not coming here to judge, but I do want to say that a piercing gun CANNOT be properly sterilised ( http://www.homiegfunk.com/gunssuck.htm - here is an article that explains why), so please think of alternatives.


Posted By: newmama
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 9:02pm
i understand your comments totally but It does depend on who does it because the gun should not make any contact with the ear and self-contained disposable cartridges are used for the gun - so therefore are alot more sterile then you would think, if they were not sterile enough to meet health standards they would not be used. Where i worked we were OTT with keeping the area sterile and clean and i can imagine places are not as careful so i guess shop around is the key, i have 3 ear peircings all done by gun never infected had my belly button done by needle and got the worst infection had to get the wound drained and have no peircing anymore.

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Posted By: mothermercury
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 9:21pm
I do agree with you that places will definitely vary in cleanliness and that it's a great idea to shop around for that reason! After all, it is rather hard to keep an area and all equipment 100% sterile, so some will be better at it than others.

However, I just wanted to expand on the non-sterility of guns:

The first concern when it comes to piercing is sterilization. Any kind of procedure which involves contact with blood or bodily fluids requires strict adherence to cross-contamination prevention. Piercing guns are usually made with plastic and cannot be sterilized in an autoclave. Sure, they wipe it with alcohol or antiseptic in between uses, but how sterile is that?... A quick wipe with a sterile pad is not effective in removing disease-carrying blood.

Some will argue that the piercing gun never comes in contact directly with the customer's skin. This might be true, but the piercers hands do - if they touch the customers skin and then touch the gun, the gun is now contaminated. Period. And when the gun drives the stud through the flesh, if the skin starts to bleed there is no way of knowing whether or not tiny particles of blood could have been dispersed into the air contaminating everything around it.
(From http://tattoo.about.com/cs/psafety/a/piercing_guns.htm - here )

I guess because I have had bad experiences with the gun, I am very wary of them now. When I got my ears pierced when I was small, they were placed very unevenly, and when I got them redone in my teens (I got two in each ear at various stages), they all got horribly infected.

Edited for excessive use of the word "very".


Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 9:44pm
I hope my post didn't come off as judging as at the end of the day it is completely up to you. I was more of a no we haven't got ours done and won't be until x age. What you do is up to you. I would ring around pharmacies and piercing places though.

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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 10:05pm
Not judging...but glad I have boys as I can not see the need for it...maybe if I had girls I may change my mind...


Posted By: pudgy
Date Posted: 18 June 2011 at 7:08am
Originally posted by Isabella Isabella wrote:

Deleted my post... Didnt want to get into a debate when a simple question was the topic..


See this what is wrong wifh OB these days. Everyone is so worriwd about the reactions of others they don't feel comfortable sharing teir honest views.

For those of you saying people are "judging" I haven't seen one post saying that what she is doing is terrible and how could she do it. All I see are opinions and advice against why it shouldn't be done.   Saying that we are all judging is a cop out. If You posted a topic and people reacted the same way , are you going to take it personally every ime ? If so maybe this isnt the place for you.

What you should remember is that everyone has a different way of communicating and you cant add tone into a written post. What I see are whole lot of ladies concerned about the op daughter for various reasons and they are voicing those.

Isabella I for one thought there was nothing wrong with your post.

This used to be a place where you could get good honest advice and opinions, now it seems everyone is too worried about offending other people to say what they really mean

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Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 18 June 2011 at 7:16am
Pudgy i can imagine some people are well trained with their guns but their are still so many things wrong with them - i will link articles if anyone (esp Cole88 who might be curious about what is going to be going into her daughters ears) are interested. Not starting a campaign or anything here people, just sharing the word. I myself got my first ear piercing with a pharmacy gun but as i went on to get a further 50 odd piercings i learnt the error of my way. Professionals despise them. If you want ear piercings, get needled.


Posted By: pudgy
Date Posted: 18 June 2011 at 7:25am
Originally posted by Bowie Bowie wrote:

Pudgy i can imagine some people are well trained with their guns but their are still so many things wrong with them - i will link articles if anyone (esp Cole88 who might be curious about what is going to be going into her daughters ears) are interested. Not starting a campaign or anything here people, just sharing the word. I myself got my first ear piercing with a pharmacy gun but as i went on to get a further 50 odd piercings i learnt the error of my way. Professionals despise them. If you want ear piercings, get needled.


Ooops should have been clearer I am in total support of not piercing with a gun, i think the fact that isabella had to delete her post for fear of offending people sucks, thats what i was getting at

Eta this is a good example of what i mean, someone might mean one thing and others interpret is a completely different way.

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Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 18 June 2011 at 8:39am
Truefact!! Lucky we are all so polite about our missunderstandings


Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 18 June 2011 at 9:26am
I probably would think it would be better (safer, more hygienic, etc) to be done at a piercing shop as I am sure they are a lot more stricter than a pharmacy but that's just me. More experience, more knowledge...

I am in the if you don't like what someone HAS said then just ignore it. Guess not everyone can do that though.      
Otherwise, nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.

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Posted By: ....
Date Posted: 18 June 2011 at 9:54am
A lot of piercing shops get a bad rep, so they are extra-pedantic when it comes to make sure everything is beyond clean, as to not give anyone any ammo.


Posted By: Whateversville
Date Posted: 18 June 2011 at 10:50am
Got my ears peirced when I was two with a gun and i'm still cool infact they have NEVER closed up and I can go months with out wearing ear rings. Only time they get infected is when I wear fake silver or gold.

I know there are places here in NP that do it, cos i've seen little kids with them done.

Jazzy, my friend still got her little boy's ear done when he was about 15months

Anyway, cole88, ring around in the area and see who will do it for you then you could go check the place out before deciding on getting her ears done there to see what their hygene standards look like.

I personally have only had my ears done about 6 times and always with a gun. Oh, had my nose once that was with a needle and it closed up a few months later when my stud fell out. Anyway... Good luck x

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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 18 June 2011 at 10:55am
Originally posted by Pillow_Fight Pillow_Fight wrote:



Jazzy, my friend still got her little boy's ear done when he was about 15months


What??? how ridiculous IMO...

I was not allowed my ears done & I did them myself when I was a teenager & then I got them done professionally..I have had them done 2x in each ear & have not worn ear rings for yrs now as cheap ones hurt my ears & dangly ones got pulled by babies, so just don't bother now which is funny as I used to buy new ones every pay day lol.

I don't see the need to to inflect grown up things on babies & for what so they look cute? do they really...don't think so...


Posted By: nicolariley
Date Posted: 18 June 2011 at 6:11pm
I also got my ears done at 2 by a gun ( obviously that was years ago when things were way less sterile!),   never ever have had a problem with them and to be honest after not wearing earrings for 5 years they never closed up :)
My two cents!


Posted By: mumzrule
Date Posted: 18 June 2011 at 8:36pm
I got mine done at 5. My Daughter (3.5years) was asking to have hers done and after explaining what would happen and telling her that it was going to hurt she still wanted it done. Both ears done at the same time with guns. No infections or anything and she is very happy to have them done. If you can not find a place in Hasting or Palmerston North come to Wanganui.

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 19 June 2011 at 8:20pm
Originally posted by jazzy jazzy wrote:

Originally posted by Pillow_Fight Pillow_Fight wrote:



Jazzy, my friend still got her little boy's ear done when he was about 15months


What??? how ridiculous IMO...



i once thought it was ridiculous too - until my friend got her young son done.

babies cant look after pierced ear rings themselves, but then they dont need to, thats what mum is for. So that argument is a bit silly.



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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 20 June 2011 at 11:02am
YOu might find that most places won't do babies/small children.

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