Pregnancy Crisis Centre
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Topic: Pregnancy Crisis Centre
Posted By: justwondering
Subject: Pregnancy Crisis Centre
Date Posted: 21 January 2011 at 10:35pm
Hi all,
I am actually a member here and regular poster but wanted to ask this anonymously (that so looks like I have spelt it wrong but it's late and i'm tired!!) as I wanted to have honest opinions and also it is still in the pipelines so....
Anyway, I wanted to know, what do you think of Pregnancy Crisis Centres? Would you go to one? Would you recommend a friend go to one? What would you want from it in terms of advice or services? Do you think there is a need for one? And any other thoughts you have.
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate your feedback.
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Posted By: fallen
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 7:57am
Silly question probably but would this be along the lines of 'i've just found out I'm pregnant and don't know what to do'? Or more along the lines of 'I'm X weeks along and had cramps/bleeding and are worried'?
Would this be in one of the main centres? Be somewhere people can go? Or more a call centre? I have seen on billboards around Tauranga a 0800 number advertised for if you are pregnant and worried.
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Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 9:33am
Give us a little bit more info, along the lines of Fallen's questions and then we can give you some better answers. Very interested to know more
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Posted By: Kalimirella
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 9:42am
I'm quite sure there is already a call line for if you are pregnant. Maybe check the phonebook first?
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 9:58am
i know years ago my friend used to work for a pregnancy crisis centre making up layettes. There are numbers you can call if young and pregnant. some are anti abortion though and have been known to use pretty heavy handed tactics which can be a bit harsh.
i think if you want our opinion on a service you want to put out there you need to give us a bit more info as to what type of service.
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Posted By: justwondering
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 11:27am
http://www.careconfidential.com/ - These guys in England are who I am basing it around, and who I would get training from. We are discussing them sending someone over.
Have a look at the site if you have time, as they explain it better than me! Thanks so much
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 11:32am
have you researched that there is nothing similar already in NZ?
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Posted By: justwondering
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 11:35am
Yes I have spent a lot of time looking around, and there are a few already in NZ but none in my area.
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Posted By: hcsmum
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 11:37am
we have something like that already in palmerston north
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 8:15pm
arent some nz wide? - they have 0800 numbers.
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Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 8:29pm
I thought the pregnancy crisis 0800 number was NZ wide. But as far as i was aware they are only to talk?
I think a service that could provide support for teens especially would be helpful, over and above the phone chat. Like providing someone to go with them to tell their parents, or go to antenatel classes with them, help them shop for what they need. Not provide the money, but go along and provide practical advice/budgeting skills.
Sort of an inbetween the teen centres where you actually move in and the helplines where you can just talk to a stranger on the phone. Especially for teens where the parents might start off angry and not willing to go to appointments etc with them at first.
OH and also offer a support person to go to abortions if thats the choice they make, if they're keeping it a secret they might not have anyone to go with them and thats hard.
And provide information on how to start the adoption process and again a support person to go to the meetings with them if parents/partners arent able or willing to provide support.
So, i guess, to sum up i'm saying a helpline that can offer some kind of trained peer support person as a 'buddy' or 'big sister/brother' sort of thing?
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Posted By: Kazper
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 9:07pm
Had a quick look and like bowie said some info on adoption would be good. I know there are a lot of people wanting more support for the adoption option, but too many places like these centers only give the abortion option.
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Posted By: _SMS_
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 9:14pm
I didnt have a huge look over that website but to me all it seems to say was Abortion, stories about abortion, how to cope after abortion.
But like PP said i think we really need to have that option available for adoption
In terms of having something similar i see heaps of advertising for pregnancy crisis with an 0800 number. I have never used this service myself so unsure what they offer.
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Posted By: justwondering
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 9:34pm
Ok thanks all for your feedback, it's great so far and I really appreciate it. Please keep it coming! I am taking note and considering all very carefully....
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Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 10:47pm
I have never been in the situation where I would need this kind of help so not sure if my opinion is very relevant but here goes!
I would think that a centre that offers the kind of buddy support that Bowie mentioned would be good. Somewhere that helped with all the options - keeping baby, adoption and abortion.
Also what about offering it to anyone who needs support rather than just teen mums. I am sure that there are women of all ages who don't live near family or are estranged from them who would benefit from buddy support
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Posted By: SBM
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 10:52pm
I used the Pregnancy Counselling Services they have availabe here in Wellington, might be nationwide though? I got the impression they were secretly religious, and they tried to be unbiased but were really actually pushing for me to keep it (which I did ).
Anyway, I found them OK, not amazingly helpful, I guess it was good to have someone else to talk to other than the counsellor at the abortion clinic. I hate to think how things might have gone if I had rung that place you are talking about, with all it's talk of abortion abortion abortion! I was in a very sensitive place and could have very easily been swayed by advice that was overly biased.
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 23 January 2011 at 7:44am
SoyBasedMama wrote:
I used the Pregnancy Counselling Services they have availabe here in Wellington, might be nationwide though? I got the impression they were secretly religious, and they tried to be unbiased but were really actually pushing for me to keep it (which I did ).
Anyway, I found them OK, not amazingly helpful, I guess it was good to have someone else to talk to other than the counsellor at the abortion clinic. I hate to think how things might have gone if I had rung that place you are talking about, with all it's talk of abortion abortion abortion! I was in a very sensitive place and could have very easily been swayed by advice that was overly biased. |
Wish I had known about this or been told about it! Being 17 when I first got UTD all that was mentioned was abortion + the counselor I saw was at the abortion clinic who said it sounded like the right way to go even though I was so unsure!
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Posted By: _SMS_
Date Posted: 23 January 2011 at 8:08am
Lil_Nic9 wrote:
SoyBasedMama wrote:
I used the Pregnancy Counselling Services they have availabe here in Wellington, might be nationwide though? I got the impression they were secretly religious, and they tried to be unbiased but were really actually pushing for me to keep it (which I did ).
Anyway, I found them OK, not amazingly helpful, I guess it was good to have someone else to talk to other than the counsellor at the abortion clinic. I hate to think how things might have gone if I had rung that place you are talking about, with all it's talk of abortion abortion abortion! I was in a very sensitive place and could have very easily been swayed by advice that was overly biased. |
Wish I had known about this or been told about it! Being 17 when I first got UTD all that was mentioned was abortion + the counselor I saw was at the abortion clinic who said it sounded like the right way to go even though I was so unsure! |
Arhhhh thats one thing i hate about NZ, is how much they promote Abortion and not adoption or keeping the baby.
Ive known a few girls that have gone for them at 14+ weeks. Just because it was so busy they couldnt get an appointment before then
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Posted By: justwondering
Date Posted: 23 January 2011 at 8:54am
Yes that site does go on about abortion but they are actually pro-life.
Definitely agree that there needs to be more focus on the other options in nz. My vision is to provide a drop in type centre where people can come to discuss major pregnancy issues. Examples of this may well be 15 year olds p have found themselves pregnant, but could also be women in their late 40s with an 'oopsie', long after they have completed their families, or someone who has discovered that their baby has down syndrome ( for example), these are all cases that my nana has encountered in the centre she runs in England. There could even be women that have been raped. They receive counselling and advice, including the ins and outs of all options, pertaining to their individual situations; I.e. Not just pat answers for everyone. Some may need a hand to hold or practical help, just as you are all describing, and I love your ideas.
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 January 2011 at 9:09am
bowie wrote:
I thought the pregnancy crisis 0800 number was NZ wide. But as far as i was aware they are only to talk?
I think a service that could provide support for teens especially would be helpful, over and above the phone chat. Like providing someone to go with them to tell their parents, or go to antenatel classes with them, help them shop for what they need. Not provide the money, but go along and provide practical advice/budgeting skills.
Sort of an inbetween the teen centres where you actually move in and the helplines where you can just talk to a stranger on the phone. Especially for teens where the parents might start off angry and not willing to go to appointments etc with them at first.
OH and also offer a support person to go to abortions if thats the choice they make, if they're keeping it a secret they might not have anyone to go with them and thats hard.
And provide information on how to start the adoption process and again a support person to go to the meetings with them if parents/partners arent able or willing to provide support.
So, i guess, to sum up i'm saying a helpline that can offer some kind of trained peer support person as a 'buddy' or 'big sister/brother' sort of thing? |
having recently just gone through something similar with my teenage niece i thought i would say that teenagers, especially girls, are a stubborn lot and even with lots of help and advice offered will still only ever do what they want and quite often refuse help and a buddy system sounds like a great idea but when you are dealing with teens it may not be a popular option. And i would be a bit wary of teaming teens up with teens.
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 January 2011 at 9:18am
Oh i do know that in auckland there is the teen parenting/pregnancy unit and imagine most main centres would have something similar. They are supposed to do schooling and teach about baby care and stuff and after baby is born they take the babies to school with them as well.
I think that any counselling or phone advice centre would need to be impartial and make sure all the options were covered, not just abortion. And i think they would need to be able to refer people to places like bethany house, or teen parent units.
My concern with using an overseas model would be making sure you have the relevant information for NZ with regards to abortion and adoption laws and you would have to have contact with NZ midwives who deal with specific situations. A phone centre should be availbale to people of all walks of life and would possibley attract not just teen mums but mums of abusive relationships or mums with mental problems or people with no homes and you would need people who would be comfortable discussing all scenarios and offering the correct services for each particular circumstance.
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Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 23 January 2011 at 10:11am
Oops i didnt mean to sound so teen based, its the only area i have any experience in...sorry. Of course their are other woman and other crisis situations to be considered. Though i have to say that would be a massive undertaking - would you want legitimate trained counsellers or volunteers who have done a short training course sort of thing?
Bizzy, i wouldnt want to put teens with teens either - i was more thinking someone who had been there done that but was now older and had their sh*t together but able to relate.
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 23 January 2011 at 10:42am
bowie wrote:
Bizzy, i wouldnt want to put teens with teens either - i was more thinking someone who had been there done that but was now older and had their sh*t together but able to relate. |
Unfortunately teens distrust anyone not a teen! For some wierd reason they think our advice must be wrong or out of date or something... Glad i'm not a teen anymore but sure not looking forward to having teens! sheesh!!! and i have three!
you make a good point bowie about having trained counsellors or volunteers with basic training.
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Posted By: Plushie
Date Posted: 23 January 2011 at 10:53am
Oh no...i forgot that anyone not 16 doesnt know what its like, man! Now i feel old. But really good point, i was just that feral at 15/16/17 AND i would have fought my parents tooth and nail had they tried to get me to speak to someone.
You'd have to lure the suckers in!
OP, is there a way you could devise a short survey and actually survey the people you hope to target? Maybe 5 questions with multiple choice answers and a comment box. I say multiple choice because people are more likely to answer them.
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