Egg??
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Topic: Egg??
Posted By: MamaT
Subject: Egg??
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 8:13am
When can we offer it? DS is 7 1/2 months. I was given a custard recipe which has egg in it, I thought DS might have fun playing with that. And things like french toast, scrambled eggs etc.
What about with allergies/intolerances?? Is it just a history or egg allergies where we need to be extra vigilant about introducing it or is it any allergy? We have no family history of any allergies but I have cut wheat (for ezcema) and dairy (for reflux) out of my diet and these seem to have helped him a lot. But we haven't had any testing done so not sure if these are allergies or intolerances or what?
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 8:56am
Egg is a stage 2 food so yup, you can give it now... Unless there are known family allergies in which case you would probably wait until 12 months...
Jake loved french toast, not so much scrambled egg until he was bit older.. loved omlettes too, cut into strips so they were good self feeding food.
Would love to see the post custard pics LOL
ETA - I missed the bit about the intolerances... I was told it was specific allergies but it depends who you ask... So thats not much help is it! Maybe give your Dr or Plunket a call to put your mind at ease. n
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Posted By: kellie
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 9:00am
Egg can be given after 6months, unless there is a history of food allergies, not just egg allergies I think.
I would poss ring the plunket line regarding this though as it is a bit tricky. I think if there are intolerances they will probally advise waiting til 1 year.
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Posted By: T_Rex
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 9:13am
I've given it. We have a history of intolerances, but not allergies. As you know, DD is showing those intolerances too.
I just made sure I gave it at a time and place where I would be watching DD for the next hour or so (i.e. not just before a nap or bedtime), and DH was there too, just in case she had a bad reaction. I also gave it to her first in baking so she had only trace amounts before she got it by itself. Remember the second or third time he tries it is when he's most likely to have a severe reaction.
Of topic, but how long did your paed referral take? And do you get a notice to tell you that you've been put on a waiting list, or do you just eventually get an appointment?
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Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 9:20am
Ok thanks ladies. I might give Plunketline a call just to be sure.
T-Rex - Our doctor referred us at the beginning of May and we were seen mid-July. I got a letter in the post about 6 weeks after the referral with the appointment time.
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Posted By: Kellz
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:00am
I rang plunket and asked the same Q the other day. I wanted to know if u have a history of a food allergy, should u delay the introduction of just that food group or all allergy food groups.
Im even more confused now tho- she told me to introduce Aiden to dairy-even tho DD was allergic and Im a bit intollerant, but not to give him eggs til after 1, even tho we have no history of egg allergy!
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Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:07am
I'm waiting for the call back now Kellz, so I'll let you know what they say to me.
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Posted By: millymollymandy
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:28am
My plunket chart says stage two. Miss 12 1/2 loves eggs, great protein food before a big nap.
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Posted By: erinalba
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 2:46pm
At our 5 month checkup Plunket nurse told me that they are now advocating giving egg at 6 months - and that's both yolk and white (it used to be yolk at 6 months, but white after 1 year). Apparently leaving foods until they're over 1 means they're more likely to have reaction or intolerence to it but less likely if introduced earlier. I was also told to introduce dairy at 6 months too.
Interesting how Plunket seem to be giving different advice around the country.
I gave Briannah some boiled egg today which she really enjoyed.
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Posted By: kellie
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 2:52pm
erinalba wrote:
At our 5 month checkup Plunket nurse told me that they are now advocating giving egg at 6 months - and that's both yolk and white (it used to be yolk at 6 months, but white after 1 year). Apparently leaving foods until they're over 1 means they're more likely to have reaction or intolerence to it but less likely if introduced earlier. I was also told to introduce dairy at 6 months too.
Interesting how Plunket seem to be giving different advice around the country.
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Yup it is yolk and white...But I am pretty sure if there is a history of allergies or intolerances it is preferable to wait.
MamaT, let us know what the verdict is
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 5:22pm
I was at the supermarket, I thought it was about 8 months (not sure where I plucked that number from?!) but the watties had a jar of egg and custard stage 2 6-7 months so I guess it's ok but if history of allergies etc I believe it's best to wait until 1 year old.
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Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 3:35pm
The nurse at Plunket Line was really good, she suggested waiting until 12 months but not going crazy with avoiding products that have egg in them IYGWIM. But, she said she wasn't 100% sure on it so gave me the number for Allergy NZ, so I have left a message with them.
The Plunket nurse said it would be a whole heap easier if DS had been allergy tested though so at least we knew what we were dealing with.
ETA - will update when I hear back from Allergy NZ.
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Posted By: nuts_nats
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 7:15pm
There was no history of allergies of any kind in our family so we gave DD some scrambled egg at 7 months. I'd given her yolk before no problem.
She had a reaction, quite bad rash and swelling on her head, face, neck Rang plunketline and on their advice have her a antihistamine and monitored her breathing, cleared up very quickly.
It was scary, but she was fine. Have asked the doctor and she thinks we can try it again in 6 months or so.
I guess you just never know, and the only way to find out is to try a small amount and be prepared!
Eggs are such a super food, I hope DD will be fine to eat them when she is older.
Oh and small amount in baking etc since then have been well tolerated
French toast is a great idea!! And I love it too, bonus hehe
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Posted By: T_Rex
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 7:31pm
I've just been cruising Allergy NZ's website, which linked me to the Aussie one and I came up with this:
"There is insufficient evidence to support previous advice to specifically delay or avoid potentially allergenic foods (such as egg, peanuts, nuts, wheat, cow's milk and fish) for the prevention of food allergy or eczema. This also applies to infants with siblings who already have allergies to these foods. "
It also says that it is the tendency to be allergic that is heritable, not the particular allergen.
http://www.allergy.org.au/content/view/350/287/#pa - Link
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Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 8:58pm
Sorry haven't read all the replies so hope I'm not repeating anything...
My older 2 have no allergies whatsoever, no eczema either. Then Jett came along. Was pretty much born with mild eczema. At 6 months I tried him with the watties baby custard - plain. The ingrediants said it had full cream milk (no egg). He only took a couple of mouthfuls but was not interersted in it so I didn't force it. Just as well. His eczema started to flare up and he started getting hive type splotches all over, and his chin went bright red and his bottom lip went white. I knew he was reacting to it. So I called healthline and told them what happened. He was fine in himself though and the nurse could hear his happy sounds so said to keep an eye on him. It settled by itself after about 20 mins so I then avoided dairy products in his diet til he was a year old.
I know they say you should avoid egg whites (there's a protein in it that children can react to??) til child is 1 yr old. So I didn't give Jett egg as a whole (but didn't avoid food that had egg in it). At 14 months I thought it would be safe to try Jett with egg. I gave him a poached egg for breakfast. He loved it!! I then went to put him down for his morning nap and he wasn't settling. I went to have a nap myself and thought I'd let him settle himself to sleep. After him being quiet for 1/2 an hour I heard him grizzling again, and I had a bad feeling - mother's instinct for sure! Knowing I'd given him whole sole egg for breakfast and him not being settled I knew I should check on him Sure enough I got a huge fright when I walked into his room. His eyes had puffed up, as had his ears. His eczema flared up crazy too he was so aggitated and scratching like mad. I hadn't showered or dressed so grabbed Jett, told Gia to get in the car, rang Dh while I was getting dressed and told him to meet me at the Dr's surgery. I took him straight down to the Dr and ran inside to reception and almost burst out crying showing the receptionist my poor boy and said I think he's reacted to egg. They took me straight into a room and a nurse and Dr came in right away and started giving him steriods and antihistemine. He was grizzling away and his eyelids looked like they were going to pop they were soo swollen he could hardly see out them. Dh arrived and then we were told to go up to the hospital for monitoring for the day.
So.. that's my experience with introducing my 3rd child to egg . Seriously, scariest day of my life! It took ALL day for his eye-lids to come down from the swelling. The hospital dr's said it was a mild reaction being that his mouth didn't swell up .
I say, being that C had ezcema and you taking wheat and dairy out of your diet has improve things for Cooper, I would avoid egg white as much as possible to allow him to hopefully grow out of any allergies he might have.
Jett was tested for egg allergy and he's a level 2 (low). He can have food still with egg in it (i.e. baking) but we obviously don't feed him pavola, poached, boiled, fried or scrambled egg.
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 9:11pm
But allergies and intolerances are quite different too. So if there is a family history of intolerances I still wouldn't worry about giving potential allergens any different than any other kid.
I give egg after 6-8 mos but it's generally mixed with something, not on its own. It might be a bit of scrambled egg but most likely it will first be given in cake. Make sure it is properly cooked of course.
As far as testing for intolerances/allergies, they won't do that until he's older anyway so if you think it makes a difference, keep on with what you are doing. But when it seems appropriate (and not too late) I'd introduce those products to him directly - like giving him a little cracker or sandwich - to see if there is any sort of reaction. If it is an allergy, he will react right away and you can go see a doctor. If it's an intolerance as you suspect, he may not react until he has passed a certain quota (different for each person) and you can get your GP's advice if the issue is still there.
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Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 11:26pm
We gave C egg in fried rice (so well cooked and basically like scrambled egg) at around 7 months or so. I gave it to him while we were out at a favourite restaurant that happens to be in a mall across the road from a very good hospital We had no problems and no reactions at all, he has been eating scrambled egg ever since and loves egg in all forms!
I suspect he has a mild intolerance to cows milk but no other known food issues or allergies. We had no history of food allergies in our families BUT my brother and sister both suffered from childhood eczema which was probably triggered by food (dairy).
I've just remembered we also gave C the Heinz custard (powder that you make up with milk, water or formula) which contains egg. I think that's a stage 2 food, so also would have been around 7 months.
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Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 11:33pm
We gave Jackson whole eggs from 8 months. However we dont have a history of allergies or intolerences so felt it was fine and so far so good
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Posted By: BriAndOlisMum
Date Posted: 24 August 2010 at 7:39am
Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 24 August 2010 at 12:56pm
This is the reply I received from Allergy NZ:
Dear Tara,
Here are the infant feeding guidelines from the Australasian Society of Clinical Allergy and Immunology mhtml:7D741C70-9C33-4CE6-ADCC-B4AEEE3B9354mid://00000005/!x-usc:http://www.allergy.org.au/content/view/350/287/ - http://www.allergy.org.au/content/view/350/287/
Also, think the general feeding guidelines for any infant is not to feed them whole egg eg scrambled egg until they are one. Baked egg is okay because the protein is cooked and changed - and you are not eating it in the same quantities.
I would actually insist on having skin prick test carried out - it could well be that your son has outgrown his allergy. Milk tends to be outgrown within the first couple of years.
So really I'm still not sure what to do. 
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Posted By: T_Rex
Date Posted: 24 August 2010 at 2:02pm
aren't scrambled eggs cooked too?
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 24 August 2010 at 2:02pm
Kellz wrote:
I rang plunket and asked the same Q the other day. I wanted to know if u have a history of a food allergy, should u delay the introduction of just that food group or all allergy food groups.
Im even more confused now tho- she told me to introduce Aiden to dairy-even tho DD was allergic and Im a bit intollerant, but not to give him eggs til after 1, even tho we have no history of egg allergy!
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this is probably because lots of dairy kids are egg allergic too...?
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Posted By: BriAndOlisMum
Date Posted: 24 August 2010 at 2:18pm
T_Rex wrote:
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Yep they are cooked but the email didn't say cooked eggs are ok it said baked eggs like in a cake.
I think "if in doubt, cut it out", If you think there may be a chance the child will react to it then don't give it until after 1 or maybe give it at or near a hospital just in case.
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 24 August 2010 at 2:27pm
i got Liam tested last month....and am gla di did he came up allergic to egg adn dairy... although they say they arent accurate till 1 or 2 that is because often children outgrow them hence the re testing every few months by the paed.. ..i reemember those pics my4 beauties:( scary stuff...glad he is ok..
and also 50% of children with allergies have NO family history at all:(! so i just say go slowly always with introductions and follow guidelines..
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 24 August 2010 at 8:57pm
Omg m4b how terrifying!
My friends sister is allergic to egg, can only have it in baking otherwise she goes into shock and gets the whole swelling, hives etc. She had a reaction once and that was scary enough!
There are no allergies on DPs or my side of the family but already Lily is reacting to something but we don't know what. I don't eat egg, unless in baking simply because I don't like it so I doubt with Lily it is egg but it just goes to show how careful you do have to be!
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