NZ Soldier killed in Afghanistan
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Topic: NZ Soldier killed in Afghanistan
Posted By: fallen
Subject: NZ Soldier killed in Afghanistan
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 10:07am
My condolences goes out to the family and friends of the deceased person. My heart sunk when I saw the news on tv this morning. A close family friend (Sebastian's godfather) is over there. His family haven't been told its him, so are assuming hes safe, but the waiting and wondering is horrible.
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 10:42am
From what I can gather from the news reports its a young guy. The wounded won't be back at work in a hurry either.
to all the military families
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Posted By: Bexee
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 11:03am
Certainly thinking of the family of the soldier who was killed, as well as the wounded. But also, thoughts go out to all the military families - and I know there are a few on here. Just a reminder of what brave people they are over there, and of the families left behind x
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 1:34pm
I'm sad, I know Timmy I went to school with him; caught up with him last year when he was in Waiouru. I am now waiting to hear who the injuried ones are.
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 1:35pm
And I am going to be picky with the media he was an Offier (a great one too), so hopefully they will change that in the media.
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Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 1:50pm
Tis very sad . My thoughts are with the families of the 3 involved.
I know my husband is pretty safe but it would be my worst nightmare to get that phonecall...
Hugs to you Becks. Have you seen the photos on stuff.co.nz? There are some lovely ones. They're still calling him a soldier though.
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 1:57pm
Yep Sally had a look at them some of them are taken from his FB page.
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 2:28pm
Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 2:37pm
So sad, thoughts are with his family and friends!
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Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 3:13pm
Posted By: HuntersMama
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 3:26pm
It is really sad. I saw a photo of him and he looked like a lovely young guy.
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Posted By: My3Sons
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 6:44pm
Posted By: Richie
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 6:55pm
That is so so sad. My brother is in the RAF and is in Afghanistan at the moment and it's so scary when I hear things like this. I'm afraid to watch the news, just incase something bad happens
Thoughts are with Tim's family
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 8:30pm
so sad. My BIL is just back from Iraq (in aus army) and our family friend is in the UN if afghanistan which always makes us freak to hear any news like this. so sad.
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 9:05pm
I spent the whole morning terrified whose name was going to pop up Huge condolences to Tim's family. Didn't know him, but of course DH did (being from Burnham).
Baker and Ball (the injured men) are known to DH too, Baker is a good mate of his so it's hit him pretty hard knowing one of the guys has been injured. So unfortunate, although with so many near misses it was just a matter of luck (or being very, very unlucky in this case).
A dark day for all us military families
Fallen - rest assured, personnel's next of kin are always informed before the media even knows, that's what makes me sleep at night when DH is in places like that - I don't have to watch the news for news (it's all crap anyway - even complained to TV3 tonight about their bs journalism)
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Posted By: scribe
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 10:05pm
caliandjack wrote:
mummy_becks wrote:
And I am going to be picky with the media he was an Offier (a great one too), so hopefully they will change that in the media. |
My experiences of the media over the last 12 months, is that they always get it wrong. . |
This is very much a side issue - but the media deliberately refer to officers as soldiers, so it's not a mistake as such. I'm not sure why - perhaps they think 'soldier' is a stronger noun in that it immediately conjures up images of combat etc, where as 'officer' could suggest 'police officer' etc...
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Posted By: BerryBliss
Date Posted: 04 August 2010 at 10:27pm
Very, very, sad. I have 2 friends who were very close to him, my thoughts are with his family and friends. Such devastating news.
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 05 August 2010 at 2:28pm
anakk wrote:
caliandjack wrote:
mummy_becks wrote:
And I am going to be picky with the media he was an Offier (a great one too), so hopefully they will change that in the media.
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My experiences of the media over the last 12 months, is that they always get it wrong. . |
This is very much a side issue - but the media deliberately refer to officers as soldiers, so it's not a mistake as such. I'm not sure why - perhaps they think 'soldier' is a stronger noun in that it immediately conjures up images of combat etc, where as 'officer' could suggest 'police officer' etc... |
Not sure what you are trying to get at, but he is a commissioned officer and most commissioned officers I know (I have worked in the army for a while) hate being called a solider because they are not a solider.
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 05 August 2010 at 7:36pm
Becks I'm the opposite, down here a 'soldier' when on deployment is anyone (always referred in the media as soldiers as to not give away ranks before family is notified). It's only the older officers, or ones that aren't well liked, that care what they are called. (Plus an officer to me reminds me of all the pompous gits that give officers bad names!)
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 05 August 2010 at 7:51pm
excuse my ignorance but arent they first and foremost a soldier ?
you cant trust the media... thats a fact i think!
And lastly i feel for that mans family and friends and can not even begin to imagine what they must be going through...
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 05 August 2010 at 8:20pm
The whole thing is tragic, the saddest part after talking to DH, is it seemed so inevitable that someone from NZ would get killed over there.
I didn't know Tim but my little town I live in has had its fair run of tragedy lately and it is having an impact on everyone.
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Posted By: BerryBliss
Date Posted: 05 August 2010 at 9:18pm
caliandjack wrote:
I didn't know Tim but my little town I live in has had its fair run of tragedy lately and it is having an impact on everyone.
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So so true.
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Posted By: scribe
Date Posted: 05 August 2010 at 10:37pm
mummy_becks wrote:
Not sure what you are trying to get at, but he is a commissioned officer and most commissioned officers I know (I have worked in the army for a while) hate being called a solider because they are not a solider. |
I know that as well as you do, I worked in Army PR for a few years. Of course we always distinguished between the two. I was just pointing out that the media do it deliberately, even though it is incorrect and annoying. Maybe they do it because many people (eg. Bizzy) don't know the difference.
But yes, such a tragedy - it sounds like we lost an outstanding young officer who had so much potential. My first response to the news was to say "very sad but inevitable" to DH - I understood the situation in Afghanistan has been escalating for some time, and Bamiyan is no longer considered a 'safe' province, like it was. But that still doesn't mean his death is any less tragic ... and just the thought of Afghanistan and the situation there makes me so sad
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