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August Mummies Printed From: OHbaby! Category: Have A Baby? Forum Name: First baby? Second or more? Forum Description: Want help? Need support? Want tips? Men and women share advice and tips in this supportive community URL: https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3479 Printed Date: 27 June 2025 at 3:20am Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.10 - http://www.webwizforums.com Topic: August Mummies Posted By: 11111 Subject: August Mummies Date Posted: 16 August 2006 at 1:55pm OK so a guessed someone had to start one so I thought I would. Seem's most of us have had bub's early so congrat's to all. And for those of you soon to join us good luck and I hope baby does not keep you waiting too long. I really don't have alot to say (I know shock horror) . Well it was fun gettting to know you all as preggy ladies now the real fun begin's and I look forward to learning form all you ladies that is one thing i love about this site so many really good idea's come out and you can learn so much from other's. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Replies: Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 16 August 2006 at 5:08pm Hey there! Thought I'd just jump in here too but don't have a lot to say either.. Ben is doing amazingly. He gained 400 grams in his first week, no wonder with feeding every 2 hours! His jaundice is nearly gone and he's still really contented. I'm healing up nicely, heaps quicker than I did with Ella. Hubby went back to work on Monday and we seem to be managing ok. A few emotional moments when both need me at once or the sleep deprivation takes over! Hope you're all well and looking foward to hearing all about the August Mums and Bubs! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: Maya Date Posted: 16 August 2006 at 8:30pm OK, so the August Mum's can have a sticky too - but will leave your preggy thread as a sticky too until all the bubs are born! ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03) (02/01/06) The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06) Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08) Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12) Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 6:35am CaraMel It sound's like thing's are going pretty much the same although thank goodness we go rid of the 2 hourly feeds the last 2 day's we have been 3 which is much easier Michael also had jaundice his is much better he is not looking quite so yellow. We went for our first walk with the double buggy and we got into most shop's so I was really pleased. We are off on our really big first outing today he has his hip check this afternoon and we are also going to outpactient's to visit all the ladies (my MIL worked there) they have been prob checking the hospital website to see if we had baby, but cause we had him at home they prob don't know so it will be fun also sad too I will prob cry man I miss her sometime's specially at the momnet. Both her boy's (BIL and hubby) are really sick and she would be really helpful at making them feel better or at least she could tell them what to do and they would listen. Talking about hubby I fee really bad at the momnet he is so sick and he has been so amazing and helpful he is too sick to go to work today, but he is still going we really can't afford to, but I think I will put my foot down and make him stay home. Oh my gosh now i have opened the flood     gate Dam I think my new Mummy high is wearing off. Oh well must go ant Michael he is due for a feed. Hope thing's continuse going well CaraMel and I look forward hearing from all you other Mum's. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 10:49am to you Deb!!! (it is Deb isn't it? ) I hope you're feeling brighter now than this morning. I know what you mean about the new Mummy high. I had an absolute shocker last night with it. I had a bit of PND with my daughter so I'm trying to be really aware in case I start down that road again. I think mostly it can be attributed to sleep deprivation rather than PND at the moment though, the lows generally occur during a middle of the night wake up call! It must be so hard for you, knowing how involved and helpful your MIL would be at this time. I hope you have a really special visit with the outpatients and that its not too sad for you. We've got a midwife visit today, but not much else other than housework . I'm looking foward to seeing how much Ben weighs now! Talk to you soon! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 7:51pm caraMel how was the vist with the M/W? How much did he weigh:? We had hip check today so I did that and that went well. I let M/W take him in I did not like it with Alan. Then I went down to visit my friend I needed time out from home Hubby came home sick. M/W came around this afternoon Michael was 7lb11onz so that is cool he is putting on weight M/W sent me to bed and told me to sleep it was good I feel so much better now. As far as my BIL goes I rang his sis this morning cause I reall did not know what to do she was great and her hubby suggested he stay with them for a month so we have now got our house to ourselves which is just fantastic I love him to bits, but we really need a break from each other. So we are feeling much better. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 20 August 2006 at 4:33pm hi! i can join in now too!!!! and i have a very brief free moment while spuds are cooking, kayla is asleep and hubby is bathing the big girls..... things have been going ok for me.... feeding had been getting a bit tiresome with 1 and 2 hour feeds too.... but kayla is now starting to space them out to 3 hour feeds, makes it soooooooo much easier especially at night, fingers crossed she has another good night. as for me.... im getting better emotionally, man the tears have been flowing. been hit quite bad. is it weird to not enjoy the last part of pregancy and then really miss it? i was talking to hubby about how i was feeling lasty night and the one word i could come up with was "closure" i thought holding my new baby would give me closure of some kind, but it doesnt feel like it! argh ok heres the rush... kids out, spuds boiling..... i'll addd more later... Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 21 August 2006 at 9:04am Poos I just wrote this huge post and the lost it I hit the wrong key dame it. I don't have time to write another one so oh well. Anyway I was jsut saying I am a littel worried that I have not been very teary (I know that seem's silly) its jsut I am worried it will all hit me at once when i least expect it. I had a small bit of PND with Alan, but I think that had alot to do with being in a new town with no support or anything where as ths time I have lot's of support. I am also lucky in that I have suffered with Depression and watched my Mum suffer all my teenage year's so I tend to recognise it and know how to stop it in its track's. Anyway I must get on I hope thing's start to get better rachel big oh yeah we had the best weekend without my BIL I kinda hope he not come back, but if he does he will have to stick to some rules otherwise he can go back to his Dad's. And some other good new's Hubby has a new job well its going back to his old one with better hour's so i am so pleased he will be back to 5 day's a week and still have sunday's off (we go to church so it will be nice to still go as a family) and he will be getting an extra $100 which mean's we can cope if my BIL does move out. So we are really pleased. Oh well so much for a small post. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 21 August 2006 at 2:54pm Hi Mummies! Glad to hear you had a good weekend Deb, and yay for hubby working better hours! Fingers crossed you get your house back to yourselves for good huh? Rach, I can't wait to see pictures of Kayla! I so know what you mean about free moments being brief, It seems like everytime I get a minute to myself at the moment it is spent folding laundry or picking up toys or vaccuuming! I didn't enjoy the last part of my pregnancy with Ella at all and then I really missed it when she was born, so I don't think you are weird for feeling that way. I've also had some very emotional days since Ben's birth. Had a big cry to my midwife last week!! I'm writing it off to lack of sleep and hormones, I really hope not to go down the PND path again. Although I didn't have it very severely, I feel like I missed out on a lot of enjoyment with Ella because of it. Ben is doing so well, he had gained another 50 grams at his check at the end of last week, and then another 250 today which brings him up to 4.250kg. Last night he was an angel and finally slept for 3 hours, then 2 then 4! It seems so sad to be excited about 4 hours sleep in a row but I feel so much more human for it. Hopefully he'll keep it up How are you guys coping with visitors? I am feeling so antisocial, aside from my family and a select few friends I really don't feel much like seeing anyone. Am I terrible? Well I hope you and your Bubs are having a lovely day and enjoying some sunshine! Mel ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 21 August 2006 at 3:59pm hi!!!... again, a free moment! woohoo!   k, i have been thinking more (maybe i just think too much!) and what i came up with was maybe im just sad knowing that it was my last pregnancy/birth etc.... and really it went SOOOOO fast, it just doesnt feel like it should be over? i mean the pregnancy flew by, and the active labour was over so quick, it hardly hurt or anything maybe i was expectng more?!!!! then kayla was born, i was home and that was that! all of a sudden i feel empty, maybe its just that i dont have a baby in me moving and comforting me anymore? blah... i dont know. but i wonder if there is a way to make it feel like its all over?! as for visitors mel- i have been the opposite, i have had like pretty much no visitors, and a feeling a little negleted!!!! not that i mind too much, i wouldnt want too many people around but i am suprised by the lack of it. i was going to have a bit of a birthday and baby welocm thing for my 25th birthday start of september but now im like who cares? so changed my mind. on the up side, im not as teary today. but it seems we have all suffered a bit of depression in the past, and i just hope that we can all avoid it and really get to enjoy our beautiful babies this time. it really is yucky when you are so depressed. feeding..... well kayla had gone 3 hours all day yesterday and from the night before, but last night the little monkey decided it was time to be awake from just before 12am-3.30am   lets just say it want a happy place at my place last night she was wanting feed after feed and wouldnt settle, cant go through that agin tonight, im pooped. she's been pretty good today though. well take care going to go check in on the pregancy board and see how the august mums-to-be are doing. Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 22 August 2006 at 11:04am Hey ladies it really does seem thing a are ver similar for us all no spare time etc. As for the laundry don't get me started the weather is so bad here at the momnet we had a few nice day's back last week, but that was it. One little person make's so much work for us. As far a vistor's go i am pretty much the same as you Rach thought I would have a few more jsut poppign in feeling a littel negleted although Mum call's in most Day's so that is my social interaction for the day. As far asfeeding goes we are still doing well last night we did 2 4 hour streches so i git to get a bit more sleep. Michael is having a wee bit of trouble settling due to wind hte little Monkey bring's it up for everyone else no trouble just not me. Alan is ok I am feeling quite mean cause I feel like he is jsut not getting enough Mummy time, but there jsut seem's to be too much to do. Oh well its pay day so hubby getting chinese for tea can't wait not had it for so long so now I am off the feed Michael then ALan lunch then bed. Then I am going to sort throught cloth's. Takce care everyone talk later. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 23 August 2006 at 11:06am Hi again! Hope you've managed to catch up a little sleep after your wakeful night the other night Rachel. I'm glad you're not as teary now, it does make it harder to manage when you're feeling so emotional huh? Deb, I can't believe how much our washing has increased. I know it did when Ella was newborn too, but it just seems wrong that such a tiny person can mean a whole extra load of washing! You're so lucky with your Mum coming to visit most days! She sounds so lovely taking you under her wing like that . My Mum works, but I usually get to see her on a Wednesday when she looks after my niece. Unfortunately my niece is sick today so no visit, boo! Ella is sick too, darn it all. She's woken up all stuffy and coughing. I feel so sorry for her and am praying it doesn't spread to us! I know what you mean Deb about feeling guilty about Alan. I keep telling myself I'll spend some quality time with Ella while Ben sleeps, but invariably I get caught up with jobs or something else and by the time I am free Ben is up again. I have been making sure we still get to do storytime together every night so at least that routine hasn't changed for her. Ben is mostly managing 3 hourly feeds now which is a big relief after averaging 1.5 - 2 hours before. He is settling really well on his own too. I'm really pleased about that as we used to have to pat Ella to sleep which was so time consuming. Are any of you using something like gripe water or infant's friend with your babies? Ben has been a bit spilly and my midwife reccomended trying something like that... Anyway, enough rambling. Hope you and bubs are all well! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 23 August 2006 at 6:41pm Hey ladies well I had my teary day todayagain seem's to be a weekly thing oh well was going to rite a bit post, but Michael is awake so must feed him oh well will try again later we have been capped so our net is running so slow driving me nut's ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 24 August 2006 at 2:17pm Well I hope all is good very quiet in here today. I had my m/W here today and Michael is 8lb 9onz he has put on 14onz in a week I can't believe it. Although Alan did the same in the begining. My M/W also want's me to write my birth story so i am going to sis down and have ago. Bit worried tho cause its been a very long time ago that I wrote anything. Anyway must go and do it have a good day hope all is well with everyone. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 3:36pm Hi Mummies! Hope you're all having a good day. Wow Deb, you've got a little beefcake on your hands too huh? Yay Michael for stacking it on Hope you've had fun writing your birth story. I've had a busy couple of days, friends visiting and errands to run. I found it really difficult managing to get out of the house with 2 babies! Coordinating naps and feeds and nappy changes is no mean feat. I'm sure it will get easier with time...? I had my midwife yesterday as well. Ben has put on another 200grams so has put on nearly a kilo since birth! He's a great little guy and I am soooo in love with him. I'm looking foward to some special time with Ella this weekend too, while Hubby is here to watch Ben for a bit. I haven't got anything particular planned but I'm missing her terribly despite being at home with her all the time! Well I'd better stop sitting here at the computer, I can hear Ella stirring so should go get her afternoon tea ready. ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 27 August 2006 at 9:56am hello!!! how is everyones weekend going? wee kayla is doing good.... and last night she let me have a wee bit more sleep than normal! yay!!!! had a 4 hour stint at the start of the night and the rest 3 hourly.... again! yay, she's really all over the place when it comes to night feeds though, some nights she goes every couple of hours...... hope that she can get into a good routine soon. finding one feed during the night really difficult, one thats around 12-2am in that time, i am sooooooo struggling to stay awake and be bothered climbing out of bed to get her, anyone else?!!! might just be im exhausted form the day running around after all 3 of my wee angels! oh and yay! kayla's cord bit finally fell off yesterday morining, was hanging on pretty tight. her belly button is a bit yucky though, weepy and slightly smelly? what has everyone been using on their babies? and as for the gripe water, were you asking mel? i have had to use it with my other two girls and it was fine.... more so with my first who was totally bottle feed with breastmilk for 6 weeks (i'd never do that again) ok, i'm being called by miss almost 4 so better get to her.... hope to see chonny here soon now she's a mummy and hopefully linelle will make the august mums to.... 4 more days.... come on ethan! Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 28 August 2006 at 7:39am i am sooooooooooooo tired! had a bad night, why wont my wee girl sleep more?!!!! argh! i am so tempted to try giving her a formula bottle tonight to see if that helps her sleep, i am just loosing all interest in the night feeds, and am really struggling to deal with her during the night. i love kayla to bits but this is a bit of a challenge! this morning after my very sleepless night my darling oldest woke me up nice and early, saying its morning mummy get out of bed! wah!!!!!!!!!!1 Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 28 August 2006 at 8:10am oh rach that really suck's. I am finding one noght feed really hard and that is our 12pm feed i think it is cause usually i have only been in bed for about an hour or so, but I am sao blessed with my wee man he is such a good sleeper and feeder. Alan was not so easy I gave up feeding at 8 week's with him cause I found it draining unfortunalty we went trough so much with him he gor really bad constipated for 6 month's on and off we enen had to go to a peditrition(SP?).   So I am really fighting ot keep feeding Michael although the last few night's I have wondered if just maybe one bottel won't hurt, but htat what I thought with Alan. Anyway enough of my rambling Hubby is starting his new job tomorrow so we are all going to be up very early. Well we have great weather here today so good day to do all my wasing must go take care all ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 28 August 2006 at 9:46am hubby wants to give a bottle a go to, to help my sanity and give me some sleep. but then i wonder if i would give up breast altogether if i started down that path.... wondering if maybe my tiredness is affecting my milk? oh! have you seen that linelle is having contractions?! yay for her! we'll be seeing her here sometime soon Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 28 August 2006 at 12:35pm Oh poor you Rachel! I can't really complain as Ben is mostly feeding 2.5 - 3 hourly but he is awake for about an hour now so I only get to sleep in 2 hour bursts. Yesterday he started his 3 week growth spurt and decided he needed to eat every hour, that was pretty exhausting but thankfully my midwife had warned me and thankfully it seems to have settled now! I was seriously considering a formula feed at night to try and get him to sleep for longer but I am also scared of him liking it better than the breast and not being able to feed him any more. Midwife has suggested expressing a feed for Hubby to give at night, which would be great for him and me, but I have the same fear of Ben liking the bottle better! He is having bed trouble with his wind lately, the gripe water is helping his burps but now his other end is causing him pain! Poor little guy screams and pulls his knees up and strains so hard, I feel really sorry for him and wish I could help. On a more positive note, he has gained another 100 grams and he is becoming heaps more alert and responsive. He loves his black and white book at change time. Am hanging out for the first real smiles! Hope you're both having a great day! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 28 August 2006 at 6:44pm Well its been a good day hubby has been home and we went for a nice walk. Michael has been wonderful as usual. For something a little sad my boy is growing up we put him in a bed to sleep for the first time and he was so good we are trying to do it at night's tonight oh my baby is getting too grown up . Well better go got to do the dish's hubby cooked tea. Hope all is good oh and it is so exciting about Linelle. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 29 August 2006 at 9:43am wow! had a good night last night (well a lot better than others have been!!!) and its amazing how different i feel today, a lot happier and energised (kinda!) my mum has come and taken my two big girls to a music group and its just me and kayla here now.... its weird and quiet! hubby went out and got bottles, formula, gripe water etc... last night in case we had another bad one. kayla had fed constantly from around 3.30pm- 6.30 pm but then slept a HUGE sleep, i should of made the most of it, but managed a decent sleep. deb- its sad when they get to the big bed we moved my oldest around the same age as alan (same age gap with my oldest two as yours... and its great ) she still seemed so little though. we only just moved my middle one into her big bed a few months ago, and it was because she had broken the cot jumping in it! lol. she was a real wriggle and took ages to get used to the big bed. hope it goes well for alan. Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 29 August 2006 at 5:19pm Aww it is sad seeing your baby go into a big bed eh? I cried when we did it with Ella back in June, she looked waayyy too little to be in such a big bed. I hope Alan is settling into his well for you. I'm glad you had a better night Rachel. I hope Kayla keeps up the good work for you! I've had a bit of a rubbish day. No motivation and lots of things I should be doing but can't be bothered. Didn't get a nap because I couldn't get them both down at the same time so I'm feeling realllly tired and teary now. Hopefully Hubby won't be home too late.... ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: Kelpa Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 9:15am Hello!!!! Warm fuzzies to you all!!!!! just realised I am one of these now not Sept. Reading through it was actually so good! Mel....... Blake is sounding exactly the same as you little man. He is still feeding ever 2-3 hours...on the dot...I am on auto pilot now! He also has major troubles with wind and is constantly straining...and getting upset. Has started today to bring up his milk in bits and pieces. I think cause he is straining so much it pushes it all up!!! Kind of getting me down... Fortunately I have had nothing healthwise myself to get over esle I think I would be a basket case!! I must be a sook...I am so different with Blake to how I was with Paige!!! Blake is putting on tons of weight too..was 6pd 10 born 5 weeks early ..now her is 8pd 3 and not quite 3 weeks!!! ------------- Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 9:45am welcome kelly!!!!! wow kelly blake is doing great! my darling hubby gave kayla some gripe water last night.... and wow! it worked wonders i didnt really think her wind and hiccups were affecting her tooo bad, but after we gave her the gripe water, after every feed during the night she settled really fast.. and didnt get the hiccups! and she would burp after the feeds with me just cuddling her!!! we only gave her the gripe water once too. she went 3 HOURLY!!!! kayla got weighed yesterday and she is just under 3kg now, from 2695 midwife is happy with her growth. hope everyone has a great day Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 1:03pm Hey ladies how are we all? We went to town yesterday, but never again it was way too hard. Michael is such a routein baby it is hard when ever it gts messed up. I like his routine, but with Alan we did not have one so it ment I could go out anywhere. Anytime. Hubby is enjoying his new job which is great it he is getting $2.10 an hour more which is great. Alan is doing well in his big bed its really good. Well that is all I have ot say at the momnet hope everyone's day is going well. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 1:18pm deb- thats good that alan is going good in his big boy bed! can be a testing time going from cot-bed so im glad its good for you as for ehading out..... i have been a house mum with my 3 girls, only go out with them all with hubby, gosh i couldnt begin to think of heading out alone yet. and i understand the routine thing too.... if a very routine baby gets a bit out of routine it can really suck. and yay for hubby with his new job, hope he enjoys it and the extra money helps Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 4:29pm Hi guys, wow, what a cool thread. Just been reading through all the posts. Well Vincent is now officially a week old. He is a good sleeper, and feeder. Loves to suckle, so unfortunately have had to turn to dummy. I always swore i wouldn't, but you do what you have to. Should i be concerned that he only feeds every 4-4.5 hours? Our nights aren't too bad. Last night was great, up and back down within 45mins. He wakes once during the night, so it's pretty good. Up until last night though, he would be up for 3 hours during the night! Just kept wanting to feed! So using the dummy last night helped, has had a better day today too with it. He sleeps for 3-4 hours at a time. Is this too long? About the gripe water, he constantly had wind, and couldn't bring it up, so every couple of feeds, i have been giving him it prior. Certainly helps him burp! Well, He is asleep in my arms, and just stirred, so guess better go put him into bed and fold the washing. Hubby not well either, and sound asleep, hoperfully he feels better for work tomorrow. Take care ladies, Chonny p.s does anyone else have nipple problems? ------------- Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 4:53pm yay! been waiting for you to join us chonny! a week old.... sounds like you have a lovely wee boy, i would be concerend about his feeding if he isnt gaining weight but if he's growing well to me it seems a shame to wake him for a feed. but thats my opinion. my cousin had a baby in june and she was worried because he was also sleeping for a long time overnight, but he was drinking plenty during the day and was growing so all good. but i'd check with the midwife just in case. he is still young. i was told i had to wake kayla every 3 hours because she was little (5lb 15oz) my second daughter was 7lb 30z and i didnt have to worry about waking her over night. i guess it depends on each baby. as for the dummy, 2 nights ago i had to give in and give kayla one too. she was just sucking sucking sucking..... both my other girls have had one too, but from a few days old. i thought that i'd gotten past the sucking stage with kayla and managed to avoid the dummy this time around. we'll see how she goes. if it keeps me sane from not having to constantly feed i'm happy!. what do you mean about nipple problems? for the first week i had weird little blistery type things that were a bit sore... but they have cleared up. think i wasnt waiting for her to latch on correctly?. well, its the night time rush at my house now, so better get things organised. Posted By: Kelpa Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 5:12pm Chonny your little man sounds like he is doing so well....I wouldnt wake him unless he was not putting on weight either....Gives you a good bit of time out! Oh this is so good to read..I am finding I have lost so much confidence since having Paige as a baby!.. I went and bought some gripe water today before reading these last posts. I dont know whether Blake has got wind in his tummy or a bit of reflux? Or whether the pain is down low in his bowels or something..... Seems to be that he is mostly straining and in pain..and his little legs come up...What do you think? I ALSO was going to get a dummy but both women in the shops gave me conflicting advice..One said great idea..should help settle him and stop him wanting to suck suck suck but make sure I get one like a nipple NUK brand or something??? (which is what I do to settle him ..feed him Eeek!...he is definitely not hungry) the other lady said he was too young and since I was breastfeeding it was not the best idea in case he gets confused....SO NOW I am TOTALLY confused and dont know what to do and if I get a dummy which one and will it affect him feeding!! Paige was such a different baby to Blake. Im coming across little things that I have no idea bout!! What do you mean about nipple problems??? Also when is the best time to give them that gripe water?? I guess if the wind was getting to his lower bits then giving him the Gripe water would make it come up before it travels down and causes the pain????? ------------- Posted By: Kelpa Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 5:13pm Also does anyone elses little ones absolutely scream at nappy change time????? ------------- Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 5:18pm Hey Rach, glad i'm not the only one with a suckly baby. Vincent weighed 8pnd 4ounce when born and had only lost 295 gram at his 3 day weigh in. He gets weighed tomorrow, so see how he goes i guess. I have sores on my nipple. Am using nipple shields now though. But still very sore. It has made me have an emotional day on Monday. He made my left nipple bleed, i think it just freaked me out be4cause although i know it didn't hurt him, and wasn't from him, i just didn't like the fact htat he had to drink some of my blood. I got really upset that i couldn't feed him, but after trying with the shield, things are much better ------------- Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 5:21pm Kelly, i give the gripe water just before a feed, that way, it helps settle the stomach before food goes in. As fgor the dummy, haven't had a problem yet with feeding, and the NUK brand is better i think as it is shaped to fit in the mouth as if he was sucking on you. A bit of sanity is better than tiring yourself and your boobs. Vincent just wanted to cuck all the time too. It was the only way to settle him as well. ------------- Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 5:22pm oh yea, screaming at nappy time is normal! They hate being cold, Vincent screams as soon as you take his socks off, ------------- Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 7:56pm kelly- i didnt breastfeed my oldest when she had her dummy, but i breastfed my second and gave her a dummy too.... and it didnt cause any nipple confusion. i use the NUK dummies too, have with all 3. they are orthadontic (sp) and seem to be good. as for the advice.... argh! everyone has different opinions, my midwife actually told me to try a dummy when my first was born, because of the constant want to feed when she didnt need it. it is a natural instinct of a babies to suck and its good to encourage it i believe. give it a try and if blake doesnt seem to take it or get confused stop.... at least you can try it to see. again just my opion, but the dummy hasnt affected my girls with feeding. chonny- owey! sounds painful. i had a friend years ago who had the same problem and was in pain and bleeding, she ended up going to formula it hurt so much. i hope yours get better quickly. i couldnt imagine how much it must hurt..... sending ya some big hugs. how are you finding using the shields? and yeah.... i dread having to change kayla at night time cause she screams and i get so nervous it will wake my girls, they dont settle very well when they get woken.... so far it hasnt been too bad though, only my oldest seems to wake a bit with kayla. Posted By: baalamb Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 8:11pm Just lurking... I had really badly cracked nipples to the point that one bled and I felt exactly the same! I knew it didn't harm Ashlee but it was horrible seeing her spit up red milk . I was just about to give up breastfeeding at 4 weeks but persevered, even though it hurt like heck. I turned to expressing and that cleared up my nipple (along with Lansinoh cream) and I could eventually put her back on it but it still hurt like heck. I have now reluctantly switched Ashlee to formula, due to more reasons than just the nipples, but she's been on it for 3 days and seems to be adjusting fine (bar the windy problems we're having!). I realised that I needed the change because I was dreading feeding time and getting anxious around bubs and it really wasn't helping. Really, you've got to think as much about yourself as your bubs and a happy mummy equals a happy baby All you August mums are doing just great!!! Ashlee used to hate having her nappy changed in those early weeks, but really loves it now!! Posted By: my2angels Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 8:21pm hehe Im just lurking to, hope thats ok. With the whole dummy thing, when Kobe was in hospital they gave him a dummy without even telling us (he was in NICU) and they made a point of telling me that it wouldnt effect breastfeeding. For some reason though neither of my children have figured out how to keep it in and we have to hold it there so in the end we didnt bother with Kobe, with Addison I use it sometimes if she is overtired, she automatically knows it means sleep and snuggles into my chest, its very cute. Posted By: Kelpa Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 8:41pm Ouch... I had the nipple thing with Paige. She dam near "shredded" my nipples but I really want to breasfeed so went off to my room one day when she was abut 2 and half weeks old and sat there and cried then got a whole mindset and the more I fed her the better the nipples got... Was soooo pinful tho!I hope you feel better soon. You guys are great!! I will try the gripe Water before..kind of makes sense to do it that way! Where do you get NUK dummies from? Anywhere in particular? Are any of you leaving baby to seetle themselves or are you letting them fall asleep in your arms or after a feed then putting them down. Sorry for all the questions!!! ------------- Posted By: baalamb Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 10:13pm Ashlee never figured out how to keep her dummy in either!! She's just this week learnt (after us persevering and holding it in her mouth until she sucked it the right way to hold it herself... didn't take too long and it's a real sanity saver!) I try not to use it too much as she had gone 6 weeks without needing one, but it's more for my sanity at times. I've spent many an hour crying over my cracked nipple and just got to the point where I had really had enough. It was a real stress relief to put Ashlee on formula. Ashlee is a really good self-settler. We hardly ever put her down when she's already nodded off. It's hard on mum and dad sometimes to listen to her grizzle though! But if we know for sure that it's just a tired grizzle, then she'll nod off quite quickly. She's got quicker at settling herself as well. Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 31 August 2006 at 7:47am ok so I have not had time to read all this, but yachonny your little man sound's like a dream I personally would not wake him. As far as the dummy thing goes I swore I would never use one, but when Alan started sucking his thumb I swapt it promptly with a dummy. When we had Michael Pete went and got him one the next day would not be without them now I also read somewhere that is is good cause it helps keep their air ways open not sure if that is true or not. Oh yeah and if bubs' is taking a while to fugure out the dummy jsut keep trying they will get it trust me Alan had a bit of trouble to start with. As far as the brestfeeding goes you do what you have to get by it work's for some and not other's O feed Alan for 8 week's ,but gave up cause I was lazy when we went away and gave him formula for a whole weekend and lost my supply. Unfortunality we had alot of trouble with him with formula so I am really working hard at keeping Michael on the boob. Baalamb you did so well to keep going like you did any sighn of blood and I will prob give it up so well done you.   Anyway my little man is screaming for food so best go. Oh yeah Kells can you believe its been 3 week's already my m/w is coming today will let you all know how michael is growing. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 31 August 2006 at 1:37pm HI Guys, well, M/W couldn't make it today as had 2 births yesterday! Poor lady! The nipple shields are great. It still hurts like heck when he first goes on, but it settles down, and i know that it is giving the sore a break and i am still able to feed him. My goal is to feed up until 2years or so, so you can imagine how hard it was for me seeing the blood and thinking i was going to have to stop. I am keeping on perservering, but couldn't have done what you did Kelly and just cried through it. I do cry sometimes, partially from pain, but also from sadness of not being able to give him the actually thing. At least with the shield though, he does stil get that skin contact. And hopefully they will eventually heal up? As for latching of the dummy, sometimes he has worked himself up so we have to hold the dummy there for a bit until he realises that it's there, and sucks it properly. By the way, i have also heard the dummy is really good in respect that apparently children with a dummy (or thumb/finger) are less at risk for SIDS as they are constantly stimulated. Not sure how true this is, but can deffinately see the viability in it. Was wondering what people think about position for baby when sleeping? I started him on his side last night, as he seems to have a lot of saliva with the dummy and was kind of gagging on it, on his side he hasn't been gagging, and is sleeping well. Is this wrong? I know they say back is best, but he is in a safety sleep, and can't roll onto his face. Well, better go wake him up for a feed so mum and i can go out and do some shopping. Oh yea, someone was saying about visitors, i have barely had any! Not many at hospital, have three families coming this weekend, but not as many people wanting to visit as i thought i might. OH well, you get that i guess. Take care ladies, ------------- Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 31 August 2006 at 2:40pm HEy chonny and ladies. we put Alan on his back to sleep as he was a summer baby however Michael is on his side I think he is warmer that way and seem's more comfortable. You need to do what you think is best for your baby don't worry about what you are told is wrong. If it work's then do it. M/W still ont been she must be busy today she rang to say she will be here a bit later. I can't wait to see how much Michael weigh'. ALan is not very happy at the moment quite grumpy to be honest I think he has more teeth comingOh well must go play with him talk later. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: Kelpa Date Posted: 31 August 2006 at 4:21pm Ha ha your midwife sounds like Mine...says shes coming and I sit around all day waiting for a five minute visit!!! And sometimes she does not even come! Oh well they are busy! I can believe it has been three weeks already...scary how time goes. yet time went so slow when I was pregnant!!!! Chonny...My love..you poor thing..I know it seems like those nipples willnever heal but believe me..babys saliva and breasmilk and sunlight are the best things to heal nipples. My were disgusting and remember thinking at the time OH MY GOD are they ever goning to be normal again..and it was only a short time and they were all healed and Paige was feeding away like a trooper and I was more than happy to do it!! Hang in there Sweet pea!!! As for the what way to sleep baby..well I ususally ut him to sleep on his back...In the night if I am too lazy to get out of bed I feed him on my side so he is on his side too...he will detach himself and sleep on his side for hours!!! So i think as long as you have maybe a rolled up something holding them in place so they dont roll over onto their faces...you should be fine!! I went and got one of those sculptures done of Blakes hands today..Oh dear how traumatising..he hated it. Screamed this womans house down and we only ended up getting his hands..NO LITTLE FEET...boo hoo. Its okay as I couldnt handle anymore of that!!! Hopefully will look awesome when finished!! Hope you are all having a great day...Toasted sandwich for our tea...cant be bothered tonight! X ------------- Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 31 August 2006 at 5:11pm Hi everyone, Good to see some other August Mummies have joined us! Its so cool hearing about all our babies. I've been really tired the last couple of days. I can't seem to get both kids settled for a sleep at the same time so don't get a nap during the day. I'm averaging a total of 6 hours at night which isn't too bad, but it does catch up with me in the late afternoon. Ben is such a little sweetie, I'm probably kidding myself but I think he gave me a real smile this morning when I took his dummy out for a feed! It was much less goofy looking than his usual windy smiles anyway and sooo cute He is still struggling with his wind and poo's, poor little guy. I'm finding it quite hard to settle him and he seems to have a lot of pain after feeding despite the gripe water and having burped. I'm looking foward to midwife visiting tomorrow, hopefully she can help somehow. I gave Ben a dummy from day one. I figured if he had both breast and dummy from the beginning it wouldn't be confusing to him alternating between the two. (not too sure about that theory but he hasn't had any trouble anyway, lol!) We use the happy baby brand, apparently they are reccomended in Australian neo-natal units because of being so similar to the nipple??? Kelly, I can sympathise with you feeling like you've lost your confidence. I feel like such a newbie even though its only been a couple of years since we were doing the newborn thing with Ella. I don't know if its because Ben is so different to her or if it is just this freaky everytime you do it! Chonny, hang in there babe! It will get easier and your nipples will heal up, I promise!! When Ella was born I use to cry through every feed.(so did she for that matter!) My nipples were absolutely grated and as soon as she latched on it was like razor blades. I wound up expressing all of Ella's feeds because I felt I couldn't latch her right. After I gave up a few people told me that it was completely normal to have a lot of pain for the first few weeks and that it gets heaps easier. DOH! if only my midwife had told me that!! I sleep Ben on his back because he is in a hammock and it wouldn't work putting him on his side. I wouldn't worry too much, it was only a couple of years ago they reccomended back or side as best and as you say, in the safe-t-sleep they can't roll onto their tummies. Rachel, I'm so glad Kayla has settled a bit for you! It's so much easier to cope when you get a bit of concentrated sleep eh? Deb, its really hard going out with 2 babies huh? I braved the supermarket with them both for the second time today and it was just exhausting! Anyway, I should stop rambling as my boobs are going again and Ben is starting to stir. Hope you're all well! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 01 September 2006 at 8:03am Kelly I don't mind waiting for my M/W as she usually stay's for about half hour or longer we have our last visit next week so i really need to get on to her pressy. I had such an awsome birth expirence with her I almost look forward to doing it all over again. Anyway Michael has put on 15onz again this weel he is 9lb 8onz so we must be doing something right. As far as being unsettled I am having the same with Michael I think it is cause he is trying to poop it seem's to happen every second feed. zWe are going to get some gripe water today see if that help's. The only booby problem i am having is one is nearlly a size bigger it is driving me nut's, but really can't complain any way msut go time ofr a feed take care all you lovely ladies. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: aimeejoy Date Posted: 01 September 2006 at 8:42am Chonny I remember having horribly painful nipples at first too. We were out one day when she was about a weke old and it started to bleed and I just cried and felt so awful that she was drinking my blood. But it does get better quite quickly. Are you using any cream? I used Lansinoh and it was great! Sounds like all you August mummies are doing great - good on you for managing to get time on Oh Baby!! ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 Posted By: Kelpa Date Posted: 01 September 2006 at 8:51am Ooooh Deb what a good weight gain..this little men are great eaters arent they?? They just chomp chomp chomp! I think I am going to have a little Buddha soon! Mel said"""He is still struggling with his wind and poo's, poor little guy. I'm finding it quite hard to settle him and he seems to have a lot of pain after feeding despite the gripe water and having burped" (This is exactly how I described it to my g/f last night) Look forward to hearing what your MW says!!! I am so glasd to hear that Blake is just like all the other little boys. Last night I was just about ripping my hair out ..he was so unsettled and straining and giving out little screams now and then. Was making me so sad for him. Took me forever to get him off to sleep! I am going to try find a NUK dummy today...Mel I have not heard of that dummy brand you mentioned..where did you get it from???? thats what I would like to get..a nipple like one. Where abouts do all you live?? I am in Papamoa. ------------- Posted By: Kelpa Date Posted: 01 September 2006 at 8:55am OH I JUST REMEMBERED THE BEST THING FOR SORE NIPPLES.... PARANET GAUZE & good old LANISOH..you get it in little while containers form the chemist and the ointment there too. You pull of one strip at a time and put it on your nipple. It doesnt stick and and gives your nipples a chance to heal and also promotes healing. Plus does not affect baby. This is what I used this time around when I started getting the sore nipples drama again. My M/W recommended it. I almost forgot cause it was so quick to heal me up! I must post that in the pregnancy forum for expectant Mums. ------------- Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 01 September 2006 at 11:57am That sounds awesome Kelly! I am hoping to go for a bit of a walk later today so will pop in to the chemist and see if i can find some. My nipples are healing slowly, but are still painful and i am dreading when i have to put Vincent on without the shield. M/W came today and suggested contacting the lactation consultant in at Birth care and visiting her for some suggestions. I am using the Purelan cream too. And that seems to be helping heaps. Well, Vincent was 3740gm born, 3445gm when we left birthcare (3 days) and today at 9 days old, he weighs a healthy 3800gm. I am so proud of him! We also have the horrible tummy pains. He strains lots and pulls his legs up so i figure he is just trying to do a poo. This morning it went on for about 3 hours! the poor thing, I felt so sorry for him. There's not much you can do though i guess. Kelly, I'm in auckland. Well ladies, bubs is asleep, and now i checked my emails, i'm going to try catch an hour or so too. Take care, talk soon ------------- Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 01 September 2006 at 1:15pm Hi Mummies, Sounds like a few of us are in the same boat re. pooing. Hopefully M/W will be able to help, if she turns up! Mine is a little like yours Kelly, I'm never sure what time she will arrive, but she is great and will stay for half an hour or so per visit, so I don't mind really. Last night Ben fed hourly from 7.30 - midnight, and then slept for 4 hours, YAY! Up at 4, 7 then awake till 9, fed again and again at 10, he has just woken for another one now. I'm hoping he settles back to 3 hourly again, and really hoping for a nap this afternoon!! I got the Happy Baby dummies from baby factory, They're quite cheap too, about $3.50 I think. Chonny, thats a great weight gain! We're in Auckland too, on the North Shore. Hope you're all having a great day! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: baalamb Date Posted: 01 September 2006 at 7:23pm Just lurking again hehe!! We tried all sorts of dummies including the NUK one thinking Ashlee would take to it as it was like a nipple, but she wouldn't have a bar of it! We were recommended (by Jezsika!) the Tommy Tippee ones that you can just pick up at the likes of Pak n Save. She took it straight away Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 01 September 2006 at 7:50pm Gah, midwife couldn't come, the one time I have a list of things I want to talk to her about!! Had a bit of a down day today, so maybe its better she didn't come and cop an earful of my whinging and crying! Ben is looking so sweet, fast asleep on Daddy who is lying on the couch reading a book. Aren't babies and their Daddies just the cutest? Hope you all have a good weekend! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 01 September 2006 at 9:54pm I know what you mean Mel! Hubby took baby for me after i had a crying episode and Vincent just went to sleep on his shoulder. We have had a good but emotional day today. During the night bubs did a huge power chuck during burping, this morning he did it again while on the breast. Then this evening he did it again, this time he pulled off in a coughing fit, then did this humungous power chuck. I got really upset for him and called my mum. She said it was normal. Then daddy arrived home. Just in time! And then bubs did another power chuck, this time while burping. I broke down, and daddy took him. I haven't really stopped crying since. Not constantly, bit every now and then if i look at vincent or think about him, i just start crying. This IS Normal right? I'm crying because i just love him so much and don't want to see him in pain or anything. Kelly, popped into chemist today to get some of that gauze, but they said it wasn't safe for baby? I think i will just stick to the shields for now. At least until i see the lactation consultant. Really weird question, does anyone else get itching down below? And is this likely to be thrush? Sorry to gross you out. Forgot to ask M/W as had cleared this am, but back tonight. Well, hope you all have a pretty good night, Chonny ------------- Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 02 September 2006 at 7:24am Chonny you itchy problem are you sure its not cause of the pad's I got it with both the boy's and it was like nappy rash so I used nappy reash cream and it cleared up. Also if you had stich's it could be them healing unless of course it is thrush, but if you are still bleeding i am not sure how you will tell. As far as my baby goes we went to town yesterday afternoon and it buggered up our routine so we had an awful night up every 2 hour's plus hubby started work at 4am. even Alan had me up a few time's we put him back in his cot last night he got up like 20 times so we gave up with the bed for now and we will try again later. well must go I am sure Michael is crying for his feed by now I had to sort Alan out first. This is the first morning I have done on my own. My best friend is coming up from Palmy today I so can't wait to see her. Take care have a great weekend. It does seem we are all going through the samething's its so nice to come on here and chat and know i am not the only one. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: Peace Date Posted: 02 September 2006 at 9:20am Hello August mummy's, I remember the first few weeks they were certainly not a breeze! As silly as this seems (because everyone says it to you) - get some sleep! Don't leave it till night time when hubby is in bed as well. Have a nappying frenzy! (Otherwise you go mental) I hated people giving me advice about sleep in the inital few weeks, but I should have listened! That power chucking doesn't sound very good Chonny, if you are concerned that he might be spewy with it burning his little throat then call your midwife or Dr. reflux is nothing to be sniffed at! Baalamb, the tommy tippee dummies are great aren't they? ------------- DD1 May 2006 DD2 March 2011 DD3 August 2012 Posted By: Kelpa Date Posted: 02 September 2006 at 3:33pm Hello all...Ah yes Babies and Dads are very cute. Been out and about today. Took Kellie (Kellverona) out for a coffee and wee outing. Poor girl. What a rough time some people have with pregnancy..I cant wait to meet Jaxon ..her little man. Yay only a few days left!!! Bought some comfy shoes from Colorado and am nearly tempted to buy a pair of jeans 3/4 to make me feel human. Still in pregnancy clothes as JUST CANT QUITE fit my normal clothes...(which is really frustrating) Im sick of these same old ones over and over!! Oh No..thats odd about the paranet gauze??? As the Midwives down here swear by it and I checked with the Pharmacist before using it as well??? (AS I AM ABSOLUTELY neurotic about anything when it comes to baby! (you might tell) very weird!! Thats a shame you were put off because it works a treat. Eeeek I finally gave Blake a Dummy last night. I ended up bawling my eyes out as he tried it then spat it out ....then tried it then spat it out. Got most upset. At one stage he was suck suck sucking so hard I think he was trying to get something out of it Eventually he got used to it but I didnt .....felt like I was betraying the poor fella!!! So only using it to settle him at night then I pull it out! Had a good night last night. Today I am kind of flat. Got a bit agitated with so many people in the house. Now I am feeling happy they have all gone! Anyway enough burble....Hope you are all having good days! XX ------------- Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 2:05pm HI Guys, Peace- I spoke to my mum about it when it happened on friday nightand she said my brother used to do it about every ten days, almost like clockwork. Vincent doesn't seem too bothered by it, and doesn't scream afterwards, which makes me think it doesn't burn his throat. He hasn't done it since friday night, so we will have to wait and see what happens. Deb, i wonder if the itching is my pads. I'm not still bleeding, it's more golden brown yuck stuff now, and only itches sometimes. Maybe it is the stitches inside healing. The outside ones i think have dissappeared, but it could well be the inside ones. Thanks for that, hadn't even thought of it. Kelly, don't be too upset about the dummy, i felt the same way at first, now i realise, and espesh after talking to people, even my midwife agreed, if you got to do it, you got to do it. Your sanity is more important. Also, if baby constantly wants to feed/suck, then you will be drained and your supply might suffer. I only use the dummy for in church, or at sleep times. And half the time Vincent spits it out after he is asleep, or i manage to pull it out and he stays settled. I don't want him relying on it at all and becoming dependant on it! Last night, he had it for a couple of minutes, then spat it out, and went to sleep. Just needed the comfort for a little bit i think. Well hope you ladies having a good weekend. Take care, Chonny xxxxx ------------- Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 3:07pm chonny- you arent still bleeding? what about everyone else? hope its not too personal question, just been wondering about it... im still going and its yuck. as for the itching, i have been the same... got really bad, think it was from the pads and the undies having to wear them 24/7 they were irritating me, i had to use a bit of cream.... but thats all cleared up now.. yay. Posted By: EthansMummy Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 7:52pm Hi Ladies, I made it into the August Mummies Club!!! Ethan is doing good, he is five days old, feeding excellently and sleeping between 2-3 hours during the day BUT only 1.5-2 during the night time.... any ideas at how i can get him to sleep for that 2-3 hour mark?? ------------- ** MUM TO ** Ethan     29/08/2006 Brooke   22/09/2008 Posted By: Guests Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 8:08pm Chonny i would go and see the dr Ella has spouts where she can barf and be fine then have episodes like tonite where she will barf and it will come out her nose and burn her throat and she will scream. I hate those ones coz she cant breathe for a bit after it and it scares the heck out of me. We do treat her reflux but also know that most of the time reflux comes with colic which could explain the screaming fit. Im not trying to disregard what you mum has said but realistically things are different these days and we can do things better to help our babies. If bubs has a sore tum i recommend a dummy coz it neutralises the acids in their tum and also calms them because the sucking reflex produces oxytocin which is a relaxant for bubs. I hope it gets sorted soon for the both of you because even tho it seems really hard right now once u have baby undercontrol on meds or gaviscon and wind mixture they are little angels If u have any questions feel free to pm me Posted By: Peace Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 10:16pm My gf has a happy chucker as well chonny, her bubbah isn't too worried about it and is at the top of her weight range, so she doesn't worry about it either. Good to hear thet hes been a bit better since friday night! ------------- DD1 May 2006 DD2 March 2011 DD3 August 2012 Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 8:46am linelle- yay! awesome that you made it pleased that ethan is feeding well.... as for the night time thing.... kayla was the same, i got pretty exhausted so hope that things improve for you faster than they did for me! i dont really have any suggestions except maybe trying the dummy... that seems to be helping us a bit. kayla is starting to get into a 3 hourly routine at night, with one up to 4 hour stint right at the start of the night. But it is normal i think.... just gotta get past the first few weeks, which isnt easy at 3am when you havent had any sleep and youre tired and trying to feed!!!! argh! hang in there hun and try to rest and sleep whenever you can. Posted By: Kelpa Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 9:55am Hello Linelle..Congratulations!!! I wouldnt worry too much about him sleeping..he is still little! Blake still feeds around every 2.2 hours at night. Think its pretty common for the first 6-8 weeks. Hello all!!!Hope you all doing well! Re the bleeding..I am still having bits of "stuff" here and there..Could not go out without a pad on tho. I have been itchy too...I am thinking maybe its all the old blood and the pads etc too. Well we had a good weekend apart from last night I gave Blake some gripe Water and it must have gone down the wrong way. He started choking..then not breathing and holding his breath for what seemed like ages. I HATED it! Very scary. Sleeping still the same...He pretty much sleeps all day then wakes in the evening for a bit. Not really getting any long periods in the night but I am not too bothered. I have got used to it altho sometimes I think I just wake up and do things on Auto Pilot as i cant remember much but there are two folded up nappies in the bucket so must have done something!!! HA HA Question: Could be silly but I am not sure and suddenly wondered if I should be pulling back the skin on Blakes willy and cleaning in there????? I know MEN do it!!! Eeek pretty personal but having had a girl I really am not sure!!! Hope you all have a good day! Kelx ------------- Posted By: daikini Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 10:05am Just popping in from lurkdom to say Kel, unless you notice that Blake specifically needs cleaning there, don't worry about retracting the foreskin yet... when he's older (around the time he comes out of nappies) then you can start doing it and teaching him how to as well. Just ask your Plunket nurse if you are not sure ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 12:45pm Hey guys, Thanks Jeszika, He settled with the upchuck until last night, and then it was just a whole lot of milk, and i said to hubby i think it was due to having screamed heaps before his feed. He had just had a bath, so i didn't worry too much. As i say, he's not screaming with it. Well, he's up now, and Nana has just changed him, but he is eager for a feed so had better go feed him. Hope you all doing well, oh, by the way, spoke to midwife re: itching, she said to check and have a look, if it's pink, it's just healing, if there's white stuff inside, and won't rub off, then it's thrush, otherwise it will just be healing stitches. Catch you all soon, Chonny ------------- Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 1:54pm thanks for that chonny Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 2:06pm No Problems, i know it's pretty gross, but glad i'm not the only one going through it. Welcome Linelle! HOpe the birth etc went really well. I'm going to be mean and tell you all how proud i am of my little man as he slept for 6 hours last night! ------------- Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 3:42pm Hi Everyone and yay, welcome Linelle! Rachel, my bleeding is almost gone thank goodness. Just the yucky old blood and much like what Kelly described. I've also had a bit of itching. I think its the pads and bleeding for me, its not constant itching like I had with thrush. On that note, my midwife warned me today that I'll be due for my first post-baby period soon. I am so not looking foward to that!! I also asked her about the pooing trouble we've had lately, and she could only reccomend gripe water. I guess its just something they grow out of eventually, but not much fun in the meantime. Ben has put on 250 grams in the last week. He weighs 4800 grams now, my little beefcake! I can't believe he's in 000 already, Ella was in newborn sizes for sooo long! Kelly, poor you! It must have been so scary seeing Blake choking on the gripe water! I'm glad he was ok. Do you use a spoon or a dropper/syringe thingee to give it to him? I found Ben gagged more with the syringe so I just let him lap it off a teaspoon now and it seems to stop it. Maybe that will work for you? Chonny, yay for Vincent! It must have been bliss getting 6 hours straight, I'm so envious!! Do you guys do tummy-time with your babies yet? Ben has puked the few times I've tried with him, but watching that 0-five show they reccomended starting at birth as it is harder for them if you leave it because their heads are more heavy for them to lift. I don't know... you hear so many different things. Anyway, better go sort some washing. Hope you're all enjoying the day! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 4:47pm hey mel, the lon sleep would have been better if i hadn't been waking every half hour expecting him to wke. lol. I haven't been doing tummy time with Vincent, should i be? I figured it was toosoon. He has a very strong neck anyways, and so hadn't really though tabout it. I use the syringe with the gripe water, although haven't had any in the past couple of days. I find it easiest if you lie them as far back as possible, and slowly drip a little into the back corner of their mouth. Vincent seemede to take it well after i started getting the syringe more towards the back. Hope all you other ladies are doing well. Chonny ------------- Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 8:29pm Wow ladies its been busy inhere scince I was last here. I will start with the tummy thing yes we have been giving him tummy time I find it helps with wind. The bleeding thing I have finally finished much to my hubby's delight if you know what I mean. Kelly as far as I know you are not to pull back the foreskin it will do it itself When baby grow's, but like Becca said check with your m/w or plunket. As far as we go our routine has been out for the last few day's we have been very busy with church on sunday then we went ot Nana's house then we had to go shopping then my FIL was here or tea. well must go hubby really want's his computer back take care catch up later. Oh and Welcome linelle you wee man is lovely. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 05 September 2006 at 4:12pm Hey Ladies, well we did the wehole night through last night. Little terror didn't sleep any decent length from 2.30pm right through to when he went to bed finally at 10.30pm, but then slept from 10.50pm - 6.20am! It was amazing, and has been sleeping all day. YAY! so i managed to even get 1 1/2 hour sleep. Thank goodness for some small miracles i say. lol. How is everyone else going? Does anyone else find the late avo evening time really hard? When baby just won't settle? Last night he fell asleep in my arms at 6 and when i thought he was dead to the world and went to put him in bed, he woke. Spent most the evening wanting to be cuddled and rocked and kept pulling his legs up etc. I think his wind gets worse in the evening? Does anyone have any tips for getting him back on the breast without the shield? My nipple is reasonably flat, and so now that it's healed, i want to put him back on without the shield at lkeast on that side, but he doesn't seem to be able to take it easily. Almost like he's got too lazy. Any tips? Well, hope you all had a good day, Chonny ------------- Posted By: EthansMummy Date Posted: 05 September 2006 at 4:53pm I have just one question: Where does your baby sleep during the day? We have Ethan in a bassinette so i bring it into the lounge during the day so i can keep an eye on him otherwise he sleeps on me. Is this a good idea? ------------- ** MUM TO ** Ethan     29/08/2006 Brooke   22/09/2008 Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 05 September 2006 at 6:29pm Hey Linelle with Alan I had him sleep on me for the first few weeks' its nice sometimes, but don't make it too much of a habbit cause it is hard to break as far as sleeping him in the lounge I have been doing that with Michael I stik him is hte buggy basanette during the day and his big one at night I have started putting him down in the room a wee bit more now as Alan seem's to annoy him. Chonny you lucky cow I mean that is the nicest possible way that is great bet you felt amazing after a good sleep. Sorry I am no help with the feeding thing. As far as us go we are having a good day been at home all day and we have had a good routine I really think I much rather be at home. Hopefully our night goes better then last we are not having a good time with wind. Now I have a question my baby seem's to prefere one boob over the other is that happening to anyone else? ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: Kelpa Date Posted: 05 September 2006 at 8:46pm Oh MY..I am so jealous of that little trooper sleeping all night? Is he putting on lots of weight??? Blake and I got sneezed on by a two year old with a cold on Sunday night at a friends for dinner. Yuck. And guess what..I am really pissed off cause we both have a cold now. I feel like sh*t and poor little Blake bless him is having trouble with a snotty blocked nose!!! I was so annoyed..they had told me that they were all well!!! GRRRRR! Blake is mostly unsettled more at night...definitely!!! Apparently thats common. It will gte better tho as they get older! Speaking of weight...M/W came today and Blake weighs 9pd6 ounces!!! She asked if I was feeding him lead! She was most impressed! Blake sleeps in my bed on the other side right now as I have his back up on a pillow due to his cold!...on me...on his Dad...in a portable MOSES basket which I move about the place.....soon he will be going to sleep in the Portacot which is in our room. MARK is in the spare room at the MO so huge bed with tons of space. Eventually will move him into his huge cot...in another room!!! ------------- Posted By: EthansMummy Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 9:45am OMG my little man slept for 5 hours last night - FANTASTIC. He had his one week check last week and he has put on 270grams (what a little piglet). Mummy22 - Ethan did that in hospital. He prefered the right over the left and the nurse told me to try the rugby hold because this may confuse him to thinking he is on the other breast. ------------- ** MUM TO ** Ethan     29/08/2006 Brooke   22/09/2008 Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 10:14am I was told the xact same thing Linelle, which hospital were you in? Well, so much for the good day yesterday, although he didn't sleep much in the evening again, he wasn't upset like the night before. Went to bed by 10.20pm last night, and started stirring at 2ish with horrible tummy pains. I could tell cause he would pull his legs up etc and squirm, then fart. Then he would settle for a while. Got up about 4.15 to feed, and we moved everything into his room and i slept in the single bed with him. Ended up putting him on the bopster pillow to raise him more to try settle his tummy. During the day he sleeps in his bassinet in the lounge. In the evening i don't mind if he cuddles into me and rests, at least he is sleeping/resting, whereas if i put him down, he gets upset. But at night he is in his bassinet beside my bed. He has a couple of clues as to it being night time which i think helps him sleep better, he has his hat on, and his mittens, and it is dark in the bedroom. I'm sure this attributes to his amazing night sleeps. I do reckon though, he always was settled during hte night in the womb. You hear people say they were woken x amount of times by the baby kicking really hard. Well he never woke me. It was always my bladder that did. And he owuld stir a little when i woke to go toilet, but then he would settle, and we would both sleep. So i think he has always known it was night time. I guess kind of helped that i was SO active during the day too. Well, hope all had a good night, Talk soon, Chonny p.s i'm so bored being at home! lol. anyone else feeling the same? ------------- Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 10:57am hey everyone!!! wow chonny- lucky having a good sleep! kayla had a great sleep last night from 6-11.30 but would be heaps better if it was overnight more when i was in bed and sleping! argh! gotta try to push it back a few hours... yesterday was my 25th birthday and had a great day. hubby got me a sound of music dvd with a kareoke (argh how do you spell it?!) setting & fun... i grew up with sound of music and LOVE it as for the bleeding... mine went funny... browny/rusty really odd colours all together had a few bigger clots (sorry if too much info) and yesterday started up a bit heavier and really red again.... wonder if it is more of a period now? has that happened to anyone else? with my last baby i cant remember how long i bled for or what colour it was etc... but i do know that while breastfeeding i didnt get my period once until i had stopped. have got my midwife coming tomorrow so i guess i can talk to her about it then, just weirded out a bit. Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 11:10am Happy birthday Rachel! Glad you had a good day. My bleeding has stopped i guess. IT's just kind of brown/yellow goo stuff now. Really weird. AS it's my first, don't really know what to expect i guess. ------------- Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 11:45am with my first i remember i bled for over 6 weeks. but from memory i know it wasnt very long last time like 2 weeks (ish) just not exactly sure. i dont remember it being weird colours and so changeable though thats all. im thinking it is my period back though.. woohoo the joys! lol... didnt miss it thats for sure Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 1:43pm Happy birthday Rach sounds like you had a great day. When I had Alan I bleed for 4 week's then had one day off then I started up again with my period. Exactly 4 week's after I had ALan so I got mine back straight away i am hoping cause I plan to feed alot longer that I won't get it. Anyway lots to do today the weather is great good wasing day. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 2:25pm Afternoon Mummies, Happy Birthday for yesterday Rachel! It sounds like everyone is doing really well. Ben did his first 5 hour stint last night, I was sooo happy to get that mcuh sleep in a row! I have started expressing a 160ml bottle for his last feed at night on my midwife's advice, in the hope it will help him sleep longer.. hopefully it keeps working! Deb, Ben prefers one breast over the other too. He still feeds from the other one but never as long or as well. Strangely though, he latches on much better on the breast he doesn't like as much! Linelle, Ben usually sleeps downstairs with us in his rocker during the day. I just find it easier having him nearby so i can re-settle him if he needs it and surprisingly he doesn't seem to mind Ella playing around him. Kelpa, how sucky that you and Blake are sick! I found it so stressful when Ella had her first cold as a newborn, I hope you both recover quickly and big to you both! I have my last midwife visit this afternoon, it will be so sad not seeing her anymore! Hopefully our plunket nurse will be as supportive and as nice as she was. Better go something productive I guess... I hope you're all well and having a great day! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: Kelpa Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 8:07pm Happy Birthday!!! Ah this littlies are heaps of fun! MEL..... when do you express for that bottle....and are you using a Avent bottle??? Is anyone else having troubles getting their little people off to sleep at night??? Blake sucks on his dummy then starts the whole straining process..legs up thing and tries to get out of his wrap then spits the dummy..cries..so I go back in la la la this goes on for about 45mins - an hour or so before he is asleep then its nearly feed time again!!! My bleeding stopped and started again too..Midwife said that is very common. My bleeding with Paige went on for about 6 weeks!! When do we get our periods next..and just out of CURIOUSITY..Have any of you sorted out contraception yet...if so what?(FUN) I think a vasectomy but Marks not too keen!!! Hoep you are all well. Linelle Ethan is doing well! (I am going to see Kel tomoro if I am feeling better...will stya right away tho) SEE YA KEL X ------------- Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 7:26am Hey Kelly that is exactly what Micheal did last night we had such a bad night not sure what to do he is a wee bit settled now, but still. Maybe its an age thing. my m/w comes today very sad it her last visit I will prob cry. we are giving her a pic of the boy's and a box of chocolate's. ANyway better go Alan is going to music with his Nana this morning. take care will chat later. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 9:47am Ben did that last night too! Not when I was first putting him to bed, but when he next woke he was up for more than 2 hours feeding, fussing, straining and crying. I was ready to tear my hair out. And like you Kelly, by the time I got him settled it was almost time to feed again, gahhhh! I kept thinking, surely there is something that can help them? But I guess maybe all the straining is helping their little muscles develop to poo more efficiently or something...? The way I have been doing the expressing is I give Ben his second to last feed before bedtime and then alternately express off each side until I have around 140-160 mls. It completely strips both breasts, so if he wants a snack before his last feed there isn't a lot there for him. My midwife said that was actually good because it makes him hungrier for when he comes to having the bottle and hopefully if he drinks more he will sleep more. Yup I'm using Avent bottles with the variable flow teats. Ben seems to be taking it really well and brings up his wind easily afterwards too, which is what sold us on those kind of bottles when we bought them for Ella. I have got a busy day ahead, MIL this morning and SIl this afternoon. Plus all the joyful things like laundry and cleaning the floors and bathroom. Talk to you all soon! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 11:12am That expressing thing sounds graet how long does it take you to express off? My M/W has just been Michael as not put on as much weight this week 9lb 14onz. He seem's to be vcery settled now. Which is great. Going ot have a sleep in a min i am jsut waiting to see if m/w Will be back to pick up her scale's. I love that we have each other to chat too make's me feel so much better to know I am not the only one struggling with the wind and pooping thing. Hope everyone has a great day nad lots of sleep tonight. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 1:23pm i agree deb- its nice to have others to chat to that are at the same stage with their babies so THANKS EVERYONE! and deb, im pleased that michael is doing good and is settled. we just had M/W visit too, and Kayla is grown great since her last weigh. Tuesday last week she was 2925g and today 3250g (7lb 3oz) seems so big from her wee 5lb 15oz birth weight. she was back to 2 hourly last night (gutted) and i have been having problems with my oldest daughter being really unsettled at night (she actually woke kayla several times rather than the other way around) so am taking her to doc soon just to check her out. i think she's suffering from stress because of all the changes in her life.... new baby, just started kindy this week.... any ideas how to deal with an almost 4 year old suffering stress??? she's not sleeping at night up for hours at a time, poor wee girl. well, should go. hope everyone is starting to get more sleep (i cant wait to!) -rach- Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 4:28pm ok.... i get a bad mummy award... took jade to doc and turns out she has an ear infection and has had it for a while she told me a while ago she had a sore ear but it looked fine so i just shrugged it off. man i feel bad. Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 5:35pm Aww poor Jayde! Don't feel bad Rachel, you're not a bad Mummy at all! Remember just before Benjamin was born Ella was sick with both ears infected? We didn't know for 4 days that it was an ear infection despite the fact she'd had heaps of different Drs look at them and was quite sick. (A&E, Starship & GP) They take a while to show apparently and sometimes not until they are very very bad. I hope she bounces back and sleeps better soon, to you both! Deb, it does take quite a while to express the 160mls. About 30-45 mins. Its quite nice to be able to give him the bedtime feed quickly though, and I'm hopeful that Hubby will be keen to do it over the weekend for me I'm really enjoying chatting to you all as well! Its really reassuring knowing we're dealing with the same stuff and great to hear what all the other August babies are up to. Fingers crossed for that good sleep tonight everyone!! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 8:29pm HI Guys, hope you all had a good day. I love coming on here and hearing what all the other babies are up to. Although i'm a couple of weeks behind, we are still pretty close. We had a good day today with vincent sleeping heaps. Had appointment with Lactation consultant this morning and can now feed on one side without the shield and without any pain! it's so amazing! Vincent slept for tqo hours yesterday avo on me. I wasn't too worried as it was late avo, and he doesn't normally sleep at that time of day. Today he slept for 3 1/2 hours from 3.15pm. Went ages without a feed, but had a huge feed just before that. Do you think it could be a growth spurt causing him to sleep more? He is asleep again now. And his feeds have been 20mins instead of norm 10 mins. I have the same problem with the whole unsettled and squirming and pulling feet up thing. Usually late avo again. And most evening, lady today said it was normal. At night he often won't go down without his dummy and a bit of a scream, but we have a few things that indicate it's bedtime - mittens, hat, and dark room. Sort of need to rock him for a little bit in his bassinet, then he settles. Well, he is pretty much asleep on daddy at the moment and i have a killer headache so am going to bid you all happy sleeping and put both of us to bed. Night and hugs to all ------------- Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 7:51am Oh Rach poor your poor wee girl you not a bad Mummy alan had one a while back and we did not notice either its onlt cause Mm is a nurse and picked it up. Yeah the expressing thing i really would not have time every night but might give it a go cause I want him to be able to have a bottle if it is needed eg I leave him with Mum to go shopping or something. we had a good night I bathed him at 8.30pm seemed to help relax him and he slept all the way through to abot 1am then again at 4am. I am also spending alot of time bringing up wind and if he goes to sleep I put him sown, but if he not toatally settled I get him up and try to bring u more wind the lay him on the ohter side it seem's to help.(I sleep him on his side)yesterday when he was really unsettled I put him in his pram on his tummy while i pused him up and down when he settled I rolled him over that worked well however I will never sleep him on his tummy for a whole sleep. So not too bad I am hoping he will drop that 4am feed and have it about 5-5.30 then I can start my day ,but hey he is only 4 week's old. I am a little sad today mow we have finished with my m/w, but I am sure we will see her again. I did tell her I will wait at least 9 month's so best I do that. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: chonny Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 10:34am hey guys, vincent has another weigh in today. but he won't settle. got up at 6.30, fed at ten to 7, but then only dozed for the next 2 1/2 hours. i needed that sleep, but he was really squirmy, pulling feet up etc. fed again 9.30, then put him in bed, but still hasn't settled so now have him in my arms. Any suggestions? Deb, bummer bout ot seeing M/W anymore. hope you get nice plunket lady. i thought M/W's see you for 6 weeks? or is that just with your first? am i a bad mum if i give gripe water just to try settle him so he can sleep? ------------- Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 10:56am cause you not a bsd Mum we give Alan pamol just to settle him and Michael get's gripe water for the same reason. M/W see you from 4-6 week's cause we have no problem's she finish's at 4 week's. I don't use plunket I use the Maori healh provider plunket is very useless here in NP. My nurse is lovely and come's to visit me everytime. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: caraMel Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 11:10am Of course you're not a bad Mum for giving gripe water Chonny! If you think it might help then definitely give it a go I say! It isn't bad for them unless you are giving more than 6 doses in a day. I hope he's settled down for you and you get a bit of a break! I've had a really cr@p night/morning. Ben woke at 3 and I gave him his feed, changed his nappy and wrapped him back up, but he would not settle. So I tried to give him some more milk but he kept pulling off and crying, and then wanting the boob again. Eventually he did a poo and I thought 'phew thats the end of that' and put him back on the boob as he was mouthing for it, but again he just kept pulling off and crying. I put him back to bed and just kept trying to resettle him, but he was nodding off and then waking immediately to cry. This is still going on. I actually had to express a little off as my boobs got so full from his not feeding! Hubby found me in tears this morning trying to feed him, I just don't know what's wrong or what to do for him. He's burped and pooped and has a dry nappy. I haven't had anything unusual to eat or drink so I don't think the taste is putting him off. Aside from the initial let down my milk flow doesn't seem to be too much for him, and he's only had 1 bottle per day for the last 3 nights so I don't think he's preferring that already??? I'm so tired and emotional now, I just don't know what to do... I really hope he's not going to give up the breast. Any suggestions guys? ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: Posted By: EthansMummy Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 11:34am Ok well it must be a day for it today. Ethan is extremely unsettled today. He has been fed twice since 7 when he woke up but he just won't settle back to sleep and just cries. He won't go to sleep on me which he usually is quite happy doing. I don't know what is wrong. Can anyone hint something that i might be missing - he has been fed, winded, changed, he is not too hot or cold.... i can't think of anything else. ------------- ** MUM TO ** Ethan     29/08/2006 Brooke   22/09/2008 Posted By: Guests Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 11:48am Could just be having a crying day, Ella has those! Just have to give them lots of cuddles I hope he settles soon for you Linelle Posted By: shelleybean Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 12:02pm Jezsika: Thank you for your PM - tried to reply but your in box is full, lol.lol.... Thank you for this and will keep this in mind for sure. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> Posted By: 11111 Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 2:20pm oh Linelle and Mel big I hope thing's are inproving as the day as gone on. Ufortuality I don't have any advice sorry, but just hang in there you guy's are doing a great job and remember this stage does not last for ever. ------------- Deborah Mum to: Posted By: EthansMummy Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 4:31pm Hey all. My day is getting a bit better, Ethan is asleep FINALLY so hopefully he will sleep for a while longer. Ok this may sound silly to some of you but i just don't know - What is Gripe Water and what do you use it for? ------------- ** MUM TO ** Ethan     29/08/2006 Brooke   22/09/2008 Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 6:36pm hope this works... thought i'd put a pic of kayla on taken at 3 weeks. dont know if i have managed to resize it small enough?! Posted By: mum2emj Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 6:37pm woohoo! i did it

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