Another nightwaking thread....
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Topic: Another nightwaking thread....
Posted By: Delli
Subject: Another nightwaking thread....
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 11:40am
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Do they ever just grow out of it?
Jude wakes once or twice a night has a breastfeed and goes back to sleep. It normally doesn't bother me but sometimes I have nights when I'm tired and think "I'm tired. You're ten months old, you probably don't need this. Why won't you just sleep through?". He has a good day/nap routine and has a bedtime routine. His room is kept above 18 degrees. He loves his solids and eats three full meals a day plus snacks. He has around 5-6 breastfeeds in a 24 hr period. We have had a few half-hearted attempts at getting him to sleep through, including being in the room with him to comfort him in his bed, picking him up to comfort him (both DP and I) cutting feeds short and half an hours worth of letting him cry while going in there every few mins to verbally reassure him. But it's just easiest and quickest to feed him and let him go back to sleep. Originally, I'd thought I'd have a good attempt at 8 months, then at 10 months and now I have thought of 12 months. Lol. It's probably worse to leave it longer but I just can't be buggered trying to do things the hard way. I'm not stressing about getting him to sleep thru but if there are any little things I can do to get him to sleep through, they'd be good to know. Things that don't require hours of my night. Lol. Or if I just keep feeding in the night, will he sort it out himself and just grow out of needing a feed? I'd rather not be waking to Jude as well as the new bub when it comes along though. What are your thoughts? TIA  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Babe
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:30pm
Jake started waking through the night round 9-10months for a feed when he had a massive growth spurt but other than that he'd slept through fine so I don't know if I can help but have you tried just offering a bottle of water at night? I doublechecked but you didn't mention that as something you've tried so thought I might suggest it 
I totally agree btw - you DO NOT want to be waking to both coz its blardy exhausting! When Jakes had a bad dream or when he sick a few weeks back DP and I were up and down to the two of them constantly and it sucked great big pumpkins!! -------------   
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:43pm
| Is there a reason his room is so hot? I think I'd struggle to sleep through without getting thirsty if I slept in a room that warm.. just a thought anyway |
Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:50pm
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Yeah, we've tried offering him water instead out of a sippy cup but he just cries and pushes it away. Not even sure if he would take a bottle of EBM... Which makes me think that he is mostly feeding for comfort. But I woke super hungry last night and thought man, I hope Jude doesn't feel like this when we are having our attempts at not feeding him in the night. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: millymollymandy
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 1:00pm
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Apparently some kids do just grow out of it don't know anyone personally though. Ours ,didn't and I got fed up with having to put her back to sleep and it took 1 hour for her to go to sleep on the first night. And she was still smiling at us in the morning. Then after that first hour she put herself back to sleep, sometimes needs verbal reassurance or a litle pat on back, (once in 3 months and that was at a new place) but that's about it. We all get a good nights sleep, even with early waking. I feel like a million bucks.
What ever you choose to do be consistent, chopping and changing methods of putting them to sleep and is very confusing for babies. |
Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 1:02pm
We find he sleeps better in the warm and it's also the recommended temp by the WHO. His hands get really cold because he won't put them under the blankets  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 1:12pm
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Haha I suppose it did sound a bit like we try a new method every night but it's not quite like that Once we've decided on a method we stick to it for a while (except for the cc, we only managed half an hour of that). Perhaps a week, but if it isn't making any inroads over that time then we stop as it gets bloody tiring! We both get more sleep just feeding ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: millymollymandy
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 2:18pm
| I would have thought 18 degrees was about right too. The guide I have suggests warm clothing under a winter weight sleeping bag at that temperature. |
Posted By: Joscia
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 2:25pm
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I could have almost written your first post word for word. We've had the EXACT same issues with DS.
Until recently I'd been ok with the 1 (or 2, or 3) night wakings for a feed - it was the quickest & easiest way to get him back to sleep. But, in the last couple of weeks it really feels like a habit rather than necessity. (Particularly as he's more often than not waking at 11/12amish and again at 3/4amish) I'm back at work 3 days a week now, and am really starting to feel the interrupted nights. SO - last night I finally got tough. He woke at 10pm & I fed him - it was just going to be another normal night. But when he woke AGAIN at 11.45pm, I thought RIGHT! And left him. He grizzled for about an hour, but didn't get nearly as hysterical as I thought he would, and eventually went back to sleep. At 3am he woke again. I didn't get up. He cried for a bit, but was asleep again within 1/2 an hour. I will persevere with this tonight and see how we get on. I had been really opposed to CIO - but after last night it wasn't nearly as bad as I'd envisaged. He didn't do the screaming / sobbing thing I'd feared - more of a cranky, frustrated squawk. When I spoke to plunket about it a couple of weeks ago they suggested that CC may not work with him anymore - that going in would just wind him up more than anything. I think they are right -hence biting the bullet! Sorry - this may not be helpful AT ALL - but thought I'd share since we've been having the same issues. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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Posted By: Delli
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 2:53pm
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Thanks for that post Josica!
It makes sense. With the CC, it just seemed to wind him up - I won't try that again. I had been against CIO as well - but in all honesty CC seems FAR worse! He sometimes has a little grizzle before his naps - I just leave him as if I go in he gets wound up again. I may try to leave him to grizzle tonight - but I guess if he starts getting too het up then it will be back to the drawing board. My only issue is that he stands up in his cot.... We use a safety sleep with him - only because of this reason, and have only been using it a short while. But he is a strong little guy and if he wants to he just gets out of it and stands at the cot rail grizzling. If I leave him standing at the cot rail he just gets grizzlier and grizzlier and if I go and lie him down instead of feeding then he starts getting wound up, *sigh*. So, the leaving him to grizzle may not work as well as I hope it might! Thanks for that, fingers crossed it goes well for you again tonight. ETA - Oh, and those are pretty much the same times Jude wakes as well. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: blondy
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 3:13pm
We were stuck in a terrible habit (not saying that your DS is doing his thing simply out of habit though!) until Nat was just over a year - due to bad food allergies, she had been waking almost hourly on bad nights, and ended up sleeping on us on the couch most nights......and even when we figured the allergy stuff out, and she was back to being able to breathe properly  and therefore sleep, we had been doing that for about 4 months, and the habit was so hard to break - so she continued to wake several times a night for another 3-4 months).
For us it was slightly easier, as we knew she didn't need feeding during the night at 1 year old (we were 'just' re-settling her without feeding multiple times a night - almost to the minute, so we knew it was habit). It got to the point where I was just so over being up many times each night that I was ready to deal with her sleep (took a while for me to get there). We would let her grizzle for a short time to make sure she wasn't going to go back to sleep by herself, and then when we did go in, we did everything to comfort her we could EXCEPT picking her up (so rubbing back, patting, offering water etc etc). So hard and it did take some time each time we were up, but after 3 nights she was waking only once, and then we did start leaving her a little longer (maybe 5-10 mins) to try and self-settle, and within the week she was sleeping through. Even now, we'll have a couple of bad nights here and there, but for the most part she goes off to bed easily and sleeps through. Sorry for the novel, but just wanted to let you know that it is doable, but might take some work. We waited so long because I wasn't in the right head space to tackle it - it was easier for me to just quickly re-settle her each time she woke rather than deal with it! -------------  
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Posted By: Joscia
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 3:32pm
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Delli - we don't use a safety sleep or anything with DS. I find that he'll stand up in the cot during the day, but at night he only sits up more often than not. (probably because he's too sleepy...) ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com">
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Posted By: Joscia
Date Posted: 04 July 2010 at 10:31am
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Delli - just thought I'd let you know that things are going really well in our new regime! Fri night, DS woke up briefly, grizzled for a bit, went back to sleep and slept til 7am. The grizzling was so brief that I didn't even get around to checking what time it was.
Last night he squawked at 4.30am, which woke me up - but it didn't turn into anything - and again, he slept til 7am. So, so far so good! He seems happier during the day now too - and is definitely eating more (which had been a minor concern for me too...) ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com">
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