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Topic: Nudity
Posted By: lil_lease
Subject: Nudity
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 3:33pm
What are your feelings on nudity, especially in front of children?

I personally have no problem with nudity in front of children unless there is something sexual to it. Eg. Husband and wife getting frisky on the couch with the child playing with toys on the floor I dont think is appropriate.
Husband sitting naked on couch relaxing after a hard day at work, I wouldnt have a problem with.
Wife doing housework naked if she so desired, I'd be sweet with that.
Wife using battery operated boyfriend in front of child, not so much.

Could someone explain to me how being comfortable with your body could be damaging to your child?

What age would you no longer feel comfortable being naked in front of your child?

Why are people fine with a baby or small child being naked, but at a certain age it becomes inappropriate. What age do you consider that to be? Or do you think there is no upper age on nudity?

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Posted By: freckle
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 3:45pm
interesting topic!!

umm with my DD1 (13) I wouldn't care if she saw me nakey, but she doesn't come in when I'm in the shower etc anymore... stopped at about ten I suppose. Her dad hasn't been around so dunno what would have happened there...

DD1 (2) sees both me and DF nakey all the time... although I'm far more comfortable than him (she does always point at his penis and make comments such as "oh yuck daddy... it's something... or "yuck is it a poo daddy")... I think as she gets a bit older DF will be more uncomfortable with it...

I wouldn't feel comfortable doing the vaccuming naked though... but we have too many windows and my tummy is too fat

ETA I don't think it is damaging to children at all to see there parents naked in a non-sexual way!

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Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 3:53pm

Interesting topic. Had a laugh at the "battery operated boyfriend"

 

I still go in to the bathroom at my Mums house if she is having a shower and I want to chat to her, I also do the same with my sister, we always have. But, I have never with my Dad or brothers.

 

I don't have a problem with nudity and was bought up not to feel weird about it or my body.

DH isn't quite the same though. I don't think he would be happy to let DS see him naked when he gets older. Will be intersting though, as he happily showers with him etc at the moment.



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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 3:59pm
I don't have a problem with it in my own home. I have 3 boys & my oldest is 9 so I all of a sudden don't feel comfortable being naked in front of him & I am talking about getting dressed & showers etc.

DH has baths with them occasionally & I think cause it is boys he had no problems with it but if it was girls (over 5ish) he would feel different I think. He has no problem being naked if front of them & they don't care, but that's getting changed or baths etc.

When they hop in the grandparents spa they have a choice of getting changed or naked & they usually go naked.

In public I would not have my kids naked & that is probably cause I watch criminal intent & stuff like that.

DS3 asked DH when he was younger what are they pointing to his nipples & DH said nipples but DS3 could not say it probably so he called them apples....so if he sees me in a bra he goes you got big apples


Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 4:03pm
DP and I tend to sleep that way, so first thing in the morning both kids see both us completely starkers either on the way to the toilet, or shower etc... B is used to it, and barely makes any comments... I will probably let him be the judge of when he no longer feels comfortable with the nakedness...

No way would i just 'hang out' in the house naked during the day though... too many windows, and too many neighbours

I am extremely self concious about my body, but am able to relax enough around DP and the kids to not let nudity worry me... I do make it clear that he isnt to go taking his clothes off anywhere he likes though!

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Posted By: Babykatnz
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 4:05pm
pmsl at big apples jazzy!! DS calls them titties, but the 'tt' he pronounces closer to 'd' so it comes out sounding like Tiddies... not sure where he got the term from cos I never told him what they were called!

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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by Babykatnz Babykatnz wrote:

pmsl at big apples jazzy!! DS calls them titties, but the 'tt' he pronounces closer to 'd' so it comes out sounding like Tiddies... not sure where he got the term from cos I never told him what they were called!


hee hee, I am joining ww this week so hopefully I will get smaller apples...not too small tho, ha ha.


Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 4:29pm
Interesting replies. Thanks guys.

For me I'm fine with nudity. My house is clothing optional. So was my mums house when I was living there.

I'm always walking around naked. Admittedly we live in a unit so most of our windows look out at a fence and on the other side is the driveway, but those curtains are closed quite often.

I used to see other family members naked at times. My nana and my uncle. I didnt see anything wrong with it.

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Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 4:45pm
Originally posted by lillithlix lillithlix wrote:

Wife using battery operated boyfriend in front of child, not so much.


lol I agree, interesting topic.

lol @ apples Jazzy. Thats classic...

Before Jackson was born DH said to me he wouldnt be able to walk the house nakeys once he arrived. And I replied with "Why?"...

Im ok with being naked around Jackson and DH is now that he is here.

I dunno about just generally walking around the house naked or doing your housework naked lol but before and after a shower or getting changed is ok to me. Or being naked in a non-sexual way I think is also ok.

As for age, I dunno, my parents and grandparents have always done it around us and we never really minded except if we had friends over and they forgot

I would never let Jackson go naked in public, which is a far cry from when I was a child when we used to swim at the beach naked.

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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:12pm
Daniel sees us naked, but I remember as a kid once I reached school age I didn't want to see my parents naked. That was gross in my head.


Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by WestiesGirl WestiesGirl wrote:

I would never let Jackson go naked in public, which is a far cry from when I was a child when we used to swim at the beach naked.


Why's that? I'm genuinely curious for your reasons.

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Posted By: MrsH
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:17pm
Possibly cos there are too many whack-jobs out there who would purposely go to places where children may be naked.

That would be my reason anyway.


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Posted By: myonlineself
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:17pm
I still go to my parents house and would just go into bathroom to talk to either of them in shower and they've helped me bath bubs when her and I both been naked

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Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:33pm
Originally posted by MrsH MrsH wrote:

Possibly cos there are too many whack-jobs out there who would purposely go to places where children may be naked.

That would be my reason anyway.


I get your reason, but were the whack-jobs not around 10 to 20 years ago?

I dont want to seem brainless or naive, but whats the difference between then and now?

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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:34pm
Hmm, good topic...

I wouldnt let Jake go naked in public because of pervs tbh... while I dont like thinking the worst unfortunately there are people out there that like to look a children in a sexual way and dont want my boys bits on display for it...

As for home nudity... if my children ask me to stop being naked in front of them because they dont like it then I will stop otherwise I dont see the problem.

For DH I dont think he will have a problem with Jake seeing him naked ever, that whole locker room thing guys have going on but if we have a girl I think he will eventually stop being naked around her, dont know when that would be though???

I guess its just about how YOU feel with YOUR children... much like most of our lifestyle choices, they are ours and nobody elses. I dont think parental nudity in a non-sexual manner is harmful to your children.. I think showing you are comfortable in your skin can only promote good body image and respect in our children!

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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:41pm
Originally posted by lillithlix lillithlix wrote:

What are your feelings on nudity, especially in front of children?

I personally have no problem with nudity in front of children unless there is something sexual to it. Eg. Husband and wife getting frisky on the couch with the child playing with toys on the floor I dont think is appropriate.
Husband sitting naked on couch relaxing after a hard day at work, I wouldnt have a problem with.
Wife doing housework naked if she so desired, I'd be sweet with that.
Wife using battery operated boyfriend in front of child, not so much.

Could someone explain to me how being comfortable with your body could be damaging to your child?

What age would you no longer feel comfortable being naked in front of your child?

Why are people fine with a baby or small child being naked, but at a certain age it becomes inappropriate. What age do you consider that to be? Or do you think there is no upper age on nudity?


Interesting topic!!

I don't mind tbh, DD is almost 3 months and now that she is too big for the baby bath I jump in the big bath with her as it's easier than hanging over the side, dp sometimes has a shower at the same time. She's too young to know anything anyway!

My parents never showered or bathed with me as a kid but DPs did.

I think if people want to walk around their house nude, that's fine, cooking or cleaning nude I find a bit weird... (What if you burnt yourself or something?!) Although I wonder what would happen if someone knocked on the door? You have to get dressed quickly!! lol

I think it is good for kids to learn to be comfortable with their bodies... IYGWIM... No harm.

I go into the bathroom if dp is showering, or my mum or grandma... Not my dad or granddad though... I think it's considered 'cute' for young kids because they are young and innocent and don't know any better??

I suppose I would stop bathing with DD when she starts school in case she gets teased for being the only kid who still baths with their parents?

I am fine for people to come into the bathroom when I am nude or showering etc.

It's an interesting topic and has me thinking, but I can't seem to express my thoughts into words.

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Posted By: MrsH
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:48pm
Originally posted by lillithlix lillithlix wrote:

Originally posted by MrsH MrsH wrote:

Possibly cos there are too many whack-jobs out there who would purposely go to places where children may be naked.

That would be my reason anyway.


I get your reason, but were the whack-jobs not around 10 to 20 years ago?

I dont want to seem brainless or naive, but whats the difference between then and now?


The internet and digital media.

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Posted By: rachelsea
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:53pm
Hi yeah I have no problem being naked in front of DD, which is only when I'm getting changed or having a shower etc. When I was pregnant, my DH also said that he would never let our children see him naked, but now he has no problem with it. Although if he has a bath with Chelsea (like he did yesterday) he wears undies lol!

I also wouldn't want Chelsea being naked in public because of weirdos (don't remember if I used to run around naked as a young kid or not...) but she often crawls around at home with no nappy on to get some air on her bum

Not sure when I'd stop getting changed in front of her. Possibly whenever I stop seeing her naked (can't remember what age that is). I used to see my parents naked a lot while growing up. But when I was about 16 mum walked out of her room starkas for the first time in ages and I said something along the lines of "EWWWW GROSS!" and that was the last time I saw her naked haven't seen my dad naked since I was around 7ish I guess tho.

Oh and no I don't walk around the house naked or do housework naked etc, just coz I prefer wearing clothes

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Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:54pm
Nkap9 I actually have a scar on my thigh from cooking steak in the nude once. Oil splashed me and I just wiped it off, didnt put a cold cloth or anything on it and ended up with a huge blister.

My partner and I usually leave some really easy on clothes close at hand if we are walking around nude. Shorts and a tshirt are always sitting around somewhere



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Posted By: sem
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:59pm
Originally posted by nkap9 nkap9 wrote:

I think if people want to walk around their house nude, that's fine, cooking or cleaning nude I find a bit weird... (What if you burnt yourself or something?!) Although I wonder what would happen if someone knocked on the door? You have to get dressed quickly!! lol


hahaha! That certainly would be funny. But honestly do people really cook or clean naked???

I walk around naked or half naked when getting ready or looking for clothes etc. I don't have a problem with seeing immediate family members nude (ie parents and siblings) as I grew up that way. My DH however is very different and I think has never seen his parents nude. Not sure what he will be like with our children.

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Posted By: rachelsea
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:02pm
Susyl, my DH has never seen his parents naked either!

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Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:03pm
Originally posted by MrsH MrsH wrote:

Originally posted by lillithlix lillithlix wrote:

Originally posted by MrsH MrsH wrote:

Possibly cos there are too many whack-jobs out there who would purposely go to places where children may be naked.

That would be my reason anyway.


I get your reason, but were the whack-jobs not around 10 to 20 years ago?

I dont want to seem brainless or naive, but whats the difference between then and now?


The internet and digital media.


Good point, although the internet and digital media would make access to that sort of material easier, I dont know if it would cause there to be more child-interested perves out there.

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Posted By: GuestGuest
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:03pm
Originally posted by lillithlix lillithlix wrote:

Interesting replies. Thanks guys.

For me I'm fine with nudity. My house is clothing optional. So was my mums house when I was living there.

I'm always walking around naked. Admittedly we live in a unit so most of our windows look out at a fence and on the other side is the driveway, but those curtains are closed quite often.

I used to see other family members naked at times. My nana and my uncle. I didnt see anything wrong with it.


Are you saying you're nude right now?

I quite like the thought of walking nude round the house apart from the cold factor.


Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:07pm
I ran up down the street naked once when I was 6 lol

Also I wouldn't let dd go nude in public jic

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Posted By: freckle
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:07pm
I would love to be as comfortable as you obviously are in your own skin lillithlix... I'm just not... but like I said earlier I don't have any probs with the kids seeing me...

I have also let my kids go naked at places like the beach... TBH I never even gave it a thought until now. We always did it as kids so it was just natural I guess.... and I find it damn hard to keep clothes on my youngest at times

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Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:08pm
Originally posted by susyl susyl wrote:

hahaha! That certainly would be funny. But honestly do people really cook or clean naked???.


Yeah, I cook and clean naked, or partially naked all the time.

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Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:11pm
Originally posted by Little_Red Little_Red wrote:


Are you saying you're nude right now?

I quite like the thought of walking nude round the house apart from the cold factor.


I'm not nude right this minute, but I have been for most of the day . The temperature started to drop so on went the clothes.

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Posted By: sem
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:22pm
By nude do you mean just underwear or no cloth what so ever?

I'm German so am very used to being nude and seeing nude people at the sauna or beach/lake. We would often go there as a family or with other families as kids.
I took my husband to a sauna once while we where over there and it was quite an experience for him. He was so scared and we went on our last day there. He really liked it and said to me he would have felt more uncomfortable had he worn clothes there!

I think I would still let my kids be nude at the beach etc.
Are you guys worried about people 'just looking' or actually harming the child?
To me it feels a bit like oh well if they 'just look' and I don't know about it it may not bother me. However seeing I don't have children yet I am not sure how I will feel.

What is the story with public pools and changing rooms in NZ? Could I take my son into a womans chaning room?

I always felt NZ people to be very very conservative in regards to nudity (shower cubicals with curtains in changing rooms etc) but this thread seems to prove me wrong?

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Posted By: sbeach
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:26pm
this is such a good topic...

I wont have an issue about being naked around my kids, it just seems more practical at times! I asked DH cos he is abit funny about being naked even in front of me!! unless we are in bed ... he said he wouldnt know until the time came...

As for being naked in public... I remember when I was about 8 going to the beach with my family and older cousin (she was about 11) and mum only happen to pack 2 bikini bottoms and 1 top...my cousin got the top cos she was older!! I think I only wore bottoms on the beach until I was about 10, such a tomboy!!! but that was 20 years ago...a bit different now with a camera on every pervs phone!!! would prob think twice about it.



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Posted By: MrsH
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:27pm
Originally posted by lillithlix lillithlix wrote:

Originally posted by MrsH MrsH wrote:

Originally posted by lillithlix lillithlix wrote:

Originally posted by MrsH MrsH wrote:

Possibly cos there are too many whack-jobs out there who would purposely go to places where children may be naked.

That would be my reason anyway.


I get your reason, but were the whack-jobs not around 10 to 20 years ago?

I dont want to seem brainless or naive, but whats the difference between then and now?


The internet and digital media.


Good point, although the internet and digital media would make access to that sort of material easier, I dont know if it would cause there to be more child-interested perves out there.


I think it does - you can find all sorts on the internet and people who, 10 or 20 years ago would not have been able to get their hands on such material, can now access it. This means that there is more demand for said material which then means that there are more people supplying it which then means that children are more and more at risk now than ever before.

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Posted By: sbeach
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:28pm
a lot of public pools have family changing rooms, a private room with a shower and changing area which is great for mums with young ones... you dont have to wait for a shower like normally happens in the womens changing room!!!!

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Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:40pm
Originally posted by MrsH MrsH wrote:

I think it does - you can find all sorts on the internet and people who, 10 or 20 years ago would not have been able to get their hands on such material, can now access it. This means that there is more demand for said material which then means that there are more people supplying it which then means that children are more and more at risk now than ever before.


But dont you think that the people accessing those materials would have been interested by it before they accessed the material, and so looked it up, rather than just one day seeing on the internet or something and then deciding that they were interested?

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Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by susyl susyl wrote:

By nude do you mean just underwear or no cloth what so ever?


When I say nude, I mean no clothes at all, no underwear or anything.
If I'm wearing underwear but nothing else I say I'm partially clothed.

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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by lillithlix lillithlix wrote:

Originally posted by MrsH MrsH wrote:

I think it does - you can find all sorts on the internet and people who, 10 or 20 years ago would not have been able to get their hands on such material, can now access it. This means that there is more demand for said material which then means that there are more people supplying it which then means that children are more and more at risk now than ever before.


But dont you think that the people accessing those materials would have been interested by it before they accessed the material, and so looked it up, rather than just one day seeing on the internet or something and then deciding that they were interested?


I think you are missing the point, I dont think mrsH is saying there are MORE because of the internet, rather that our children are at more risk because of the internet. There were just as many pervs around 20 years ago, they just could take a picture of my child naked at the beach with their phone and upload it to a kiddy porn website in a couple of minutes!

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Posted By: sem
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:51pm
But again I ask are you worried about them physically harming your child or 'just watching' it?

I must admit I hadn't even considered them taking photos though. Now I'm gonna write something which may offend but this thought just popped into my head so apologies in advance -
I think I'd rather them taking photos of my child without my knowledge and no harm to the child (ie at a beach) then them having actual children and making them pose to get what they want.

Hmm does that make sense?

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Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:51pm
Originally posted by melnel melnel wrote:

Originally posted by lillithlix lillithlix wrote:

Originally posted by MrsH MrsH wrote:

I think it does - you can find all sorts on the internet and people who, 10 or 20 years ago would not have been able to get their hands on such material, can now access it. This means that there is more demand for said material which then means that there are more people supplying it which then means that children are more and more at risk now than ever before.


But dont you think that the people accessing those materials would have been interested by it before they accessed the material, and so looked it up, rather than just one day seeing on the internet or something and then deciding that they were interested?


I think you are missing the point, I dont think mrsH is saying there are MORE because of the internet, rather that our children are at more risk because of the internet. There were just as many pervs around 20 years ago, they just could take a picture of my child naked at the beach with their phone and upload it to a kiddy porn website in a couple of minutes!


Whoops, just reread all that and yeah I did miss the point of that a little. I had forgotten about cellphone cameras and such.
My line of thought was more along the people going to wherever to see naked children and looking at the children for their own jollies, rather than taking pictures.

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Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:59pm
Originally posted by lillithlix lillithlix wrote:

Originally posted by MrsH MrsH wrote:

Possibly cos there are too many whack-jobs out there who would purposely go to places where children may be naked.

That would be my reason anyway.


I get your reason, but were the whack-jobs not around 10 to 20 years ago?

I dont want to seem brainless or naive, but whats the difference between then and now?


lol yep this exact reason. Yeah they were around 10/20 years ago but back then there wern't cell phones with video and cameras etc then

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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:00pm
Yes I am more concerned about my kids and pervs out there which is sad. Your child can be photographed and put on the internet in a matter of seconds. That means that the picture is out there and very difficult, near impossible to undo. There is no way as a mum that you can control the photo and who will see it etc once it is on the internet. The one thing I can control is the opportunity to have one taken of MY child. And as for outside in public places isn't sunscreen an issue too. lol. (just to lighten the mood lol)

I also think there were the same amount of pervs 20 years ago just mums weren't as aware about it then. It was more of a hush hush subject. It has been more publicised now which has created more of an awareness for some mums. A bit like carseats were optional back when I was a kid. Some mums used them as they prevented injury but others didn't. It has been more awareness an law changes that have brought it as a social must as well as a legal must. The same for pervs etc as the more cases prosecuted means the more people are aware of the problem. Wow that is a ramble but that is how my brain is processing it.

As for nudity my daughter stopped showering with her dad at about 8. My son is 9 and I am starting to feel a little uneasy as he is looking a bit now. Before he didn't look as much but now he is curious about boobies. And as for going to the loo I can't do that in peace ever. No matter where I am in the house (we have 3 loos) they will always find me.

The only housework I do in the nude is make our bed. Our bathroom is on one side of the room and my undies are in the drawer on the other side so when I run over to get them I quickly make DH side of the bed. Then back over to my side to make that and then get dressed.   Fully clothed for the rest of the day after that.



Posted By: MrsH
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:02pm
Originally posted by susyl susyl wrote:

But again I ask are you worried about them physically harming your child or 'just watching' it?

I must admit I hadn't even considered them taking photos though. Now I'm gonna write something which may offend but this thought just popped into my head so apologies in advance -
I think I'd rather them taking photos of my child without my knowledge and no harm to the child (ie at a beach) then them having actual children and making them pose to get what they want.

Hmm does that make sense?


I do see what you mean but for child pornographers and paedophiles (sp?), what can start as an 'innocent' (used in the LOOSEST sense of the word) attraction to children can quickly turn into something even more sinister. They think "What next?" and so after looking at a picture of a naked child on the beach, they then move to something more graphic. Thus the cycle of supply and demand begins/picks up.

And also, lets picture this scenario: child porn with YOUR childs face photoshopped in.....

It's not just our own child we should feel the urge to protect, but ALL children.

I always second-guess posting pics on to OB, Facebook and even Snapfish. I still do. But I still wonder and worry.

Sorry if this has turned into a bit of a doomsday topic.

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Posted By: _H_
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:04pm
Susyl- i dont think that there is an 'rules' about taking boys into womans changing rooms at pools (correct me if im wrong) but its normally done only when they are under school age

i must say im very conservative about my body. i dont think i would mind being naked in front of my kids but im normally only naked if im going for a shower or getting changed. i would probably have a shower with my kids but only when they are babies. i still talk to mum if she is getting changed (same with nana but she always still has underwear on) or when she goes toilet she doesnt shut the door. my parents never showered with me (or not that i can remember) and the same with DPs parents.

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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:04pm
lillithlix - I think it is great that you missed the point on that. It is sad that we have to be so cynical, and your not getting that point until later just goes to show a kind mind.


Posted By: MrsH
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:06pm
Originally posted by kiwi2 kiwi2 wrote:

lillithlix - I think it is great that you missed the point on that. It is sad that we have to be so cynical, and your not getting that point until later just goes to show a kind mind.


Absolutely agree.

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Posted By: kiwi2
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:09pm
As for changing rooms etc I have only just let my son go in unsupervised at the age of 9. Before then if my DH wasn't with me I would take him in the womans. I would rather he was in there with me than with some dodgy guy in the mens. Also if something goes wrong and he is taking a while there is no way you can check on him in the mens.   I haven't done changing rooms but public toilets etc. Normally I will do the wheelchair ones as they are unisex but if none are available I will do a womans one.

Goodness I am sounding like a very overprotective mum now.


Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:10pm
Originally posted by susyl susyl wrote:

But again I ask are you worried about them physically harming your child or 'just watching' it?

I must admit I hadn't even considered them taking photos though. Now I'm gonna write something which may offend but this thought just popped into my head so apologies in advance -
I think I'd rather them taking photos of my child without my knowledge and no harm to the child (ie at a beach) then them having actual children and making them pose to get what they want.

Hmm does that make sense?


I do get what you are meaning.

It's so hard to get what I'm thinking down so it makes sense.

The thought of the perves having children in their care which they make pose and take photos of, makes me feel sick, but the thought of them taking pictures of children anonymously is still disturbing to me.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:20pm
We walk around nudies all the time
Especially in the summer and when I was pregnant. Not so much in the cooler weather but I cook and clean naked. Sometimes it's just too hot to wear clothes. I always had a sarong by the door just in case

DD LOVES being nudies and runs around with no clothes on at home all the time. And sometimes she tries to take her clothes off in public lol.

She did take quite an interest in DH penis when she was about 18 mnths, it made him a little umcomfortable , but since her brother arrived she isn't bothered.
She is still fascinated by nipples though, and at Kmart one day saw a poster with a man modelling undies ad pointed and yelled out NIPPLES at the tope her lungs over and over lol

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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by MrsH MrsH wrote:

Originally posted by kiwi2 kiwi2 wrote:

lillithlix - I think it is great that you missed the point on that. It is sad that we have to be so cynical, and your not getting that point until later just goes to show a kind mind.


Absolutely agree.


Me too!

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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:25pm
I want to let Jake run free and naked at the beach Susy.... I do get what you mean but I would rather it not be child regardless of how they got the photo!

A really good nanny friend of mine in the UK had her 4 year old charged nabbed as she tied her shoe in the street. Luckily she looked up and saw him being walked away and she went nutso on the guy and got her wee boy back... ever since then I have been little more wary of what I would let my charges or child do.

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Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:28pm
Originally posted by misscheeky misscheeky wrote:

She is still fascinated by nipples though, and at Kmart one day saw a poster with a man modelling undies ad pointed and yelled out NIPPLES at the tope her lungs over and over lol


LOL this sounds like me and I'm 19.
I love nipples.
I even renamed the eclipse mints Dried Nipples because I enjoy sucking on them so much lol.

My partners nipples are right at mouth height to me too so I always have the temptation for a sly lick staring me in the face.

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Posted By: Nutella
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:34pm
lol, funny topic...I used to be quite shy about being naked but after having DS I am not so shy and whip my boobs out wherever without a thought haha

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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by susyl susyl wrote:


I think I would still let my kids be nude at the beach etc.
Are you guys worried about people 'just looking' or actually harming the child?
To me it feels a bit like oh well if they 'just look' and I don't know about it it may not bother me. However seeing I don't have children yet I am not sure how I will feel.

What is the story with public pools and changing rooms in NZ? Could I take my son into a womans chaning room?


Good point, if you don't know about it then no problem, I guess people staring would bug me... Like why would they feel the need to stare at a naked kid they didn't know...
I feel a bit bummed about maybe holding back from letting Lily swim nude at the beach because I did it as a kid...

What has really made me 'worried' was the poster who recently got banned (sorry to bring it up) but it's really freaked me about posting pictures on the net, and just opened my eyes a bit to people out there who are like that.

Also you can take young kids into changing rooms with you, no one usually minds, I guess people only mind if they think the kid is old enough to go by himself IYGWIM. Although in malls there are parents rooms which usually have a toilet and at pools they have changing rooms etc that you could go in.

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Posted By: jazzy
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by kiwi2 kiwi2 wrote:


My son is 9 and I am starting to feel a little uneasy as he is looking a bit now. Before he didn't look as much but now he is curious about boobies. And as for going to the loo I can't do that in peace ever. No matter where I am in the house (we have 3 loos) they will always find me.


My oldest is 9 & I feel the same as he look at me now never used to.

& what is it about the loo, we have 2 & there is always 1 of the 3 hunting me down as soon as I go


Posted By: Babe
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:40pm
LOL mmmm nipppplllleeessss...

I was still going in and sitting on the floor by the bath to talk to my dad when I was in my early 20s then they ripped their bath out when they renovated. In summer I wander round in my undies and bra and go outside to hang washing and stuff lol the neighbours get an eyeful. Me and DP shower with the boys though Jake has abit of an obsession with comparing DPs and his bits hahaha poor DP!!

I don't just wander round naked though. Mainly again because of the very curious toddler he on the otherhand spends most of his time butt-bare when the weather is warm. If we're out of the house he just wears a pair of shorts.

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Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:41pm
Originally posted by melnel melnel wrote:

I want to let Jake run free and naked at the beach Susy.... I do get what you mean but I would rather it not be child regardless of how they got the photo!

A really good nanny friend of mine in the UK had her 4 year old charged nabbed as she tied her shoe in the street. Luckily she looked up and saw him being walked away and she went nutso on the guy and got her wee boy back... ever since then I have been little more wary of what I would let my charges or child do.


I can see then why you are so cautious, and I dont blame you at all.



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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 8:01pm
I've put the washing out in my bra and undies before lol but only a couple of times, not since the neighbours subdivided as they like to sit in their hallway drinking and looking out the window at us

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Posted By: AandCsmum
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 8:01pm
Interesting topic.

You will find there will be a natural progression towards privacy in a child, not sure what age as my 6yo still is happy to bath or shower with her Dad or me. We sleep nude, well I don't at the moment cause I need a bra to hold the girls in place & feel odd without undies on.

Summer & winter I usually end up in just a bra at night cause it's too hot! I don't do half naked during the day cause we've got too many windows.

I think if you hid nudity from kids they wont be used to it? I remember laughing at A when she asked what was all over my boobs, I said veins, she thought I was talking about brains....took a long time for her to get it right. Look at Mummy's brains LMAO

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Posted By: julz85
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 8:02pm

Very interesting topic!!!    I guess it depends on if the child is comfortable with their parents being naked around them  or comfortable with being naked. i know nakedness was never an issue in my family ( well not for my mum or sister- i never saw my dad naked) it was actually me that had the problem and i still do , i was always extremley uncomfortable being naked . i clearly remember throwing a huge Tantrum at the age of about 3 or 4 because mum wanted me to run around under the sprinkler with my 2 girl cousins naked but i flatly refused unless i had togs . I Have no memories of being naked as a kid at the beach or anything becuase i simnply did not want to be and would not be forced to be . even to this day iv never been skinny dipping or got changed in the publc changing rooms, or in front of friends , family etc and it was months before i felt comfortable to walk around in the light naked in front of DP . My daughters only 10 months so im not at the point where im worried being naked around her at the moment but i certinley dont let my partners 5yr old daughter see me naked. its funny because i have no problems with other people being naked its just me , might be a confidence thing or something altho a little odd that iv been that way since i can remember . Mum  said she always thought it was strange , i was the complete opposite as my sister, she never cared about being naked and still doesnt care, i quite often turn up at her house and shes half naked or walking around with no top or something . Mum saw me naked when i had my daughter for the first time since i could dress and bath myself properly , so prob a good 15-18 years (im 24 now) .

when it comes to DD i will let her make up her own mind , i dont mind if she wants to have a run around nakey at the beach ( up until a certain age ) but im certinley not going to force her if she doesnt want to . I would hope she doesnt have the same body hangups as me tho.



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Posted By: lil_lease
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 8:21pm
I have to admit that I had a bit of an issue with being naked in front of my mum once I got to intermediate/highschool age but before then I was fine with it. I dont have a problem with her being naked, I just had a few body hangups going on for a while there until I decided not to care what other people think about how I look.

I do feel a bit uncomfortable if my mum says something like "Your boobs really are getting bigger" because its just not something I expected my mum to comment on.

Since I met my DF I have become a lot more comfortable with my body and a lot more confident. Before meeting him and when we first got together I felt really self conscious about all my lumps and bumps but it was good for me finding a guy who would take me as I was at 16 and not being shallow about the visual aspect of things.

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Posted By: ?Lolly?
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 8:33pm
I didn't read the whole thread sorry, Dieing to got back to the confess thread hahahahhahahaha BUT I just wanted to throw my 2cent in. DP's parents use to wander around naked while he was a teen (not in a sexual way but just how you would with your preschooler I suppose) and he says he will never ever EVER get over it, mentally scarred for like and he promised E(4 years old) That he will do his best when as he get's older to never wander around nakie and mentally scar him.

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Posted By: Mucky_Tiger
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 9:03pm
RE:swimming pool changing rooms

the pool here in New Plymouth has a sign in the womens saying all children over 8 must use the changing room for their respective sex


Posted By: Daizy
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 9:11pm
Wow, I am really not that confident being naked, even at home I have days I rush to get clothes on so no one will see me.

We still shower with the girls (we usually change over in the shower we are never in together for long) I think the oldest is starting to feel uncomfortable seeing Daddy naked and he wont parade around infront of her, but if she walks in on him in the shower we aren't going to scare her off by blocking her out. They also are begining to feel uncomfortable around me because they doing like showering with people that have hair :P (or at least I think so and not just an excuse to kick me out of the shower)

I can't sleep naked as I am scared someone will break in in the middle of the night.
I have started making DH sleep in underware at night. I think he had got to the point where he was starting to feel slightly uncomfortable getting out of bed in front of the girls that he was using it as an excuse.

When I was growing up my mum was never worried about us seeing her naked (still isn't) and I think that has actually made me feel more conscious being naked.

As for letting my girls be naked, they are too conscious of it too so wont ever do it in public, they used to never even like being naked at home untill they realised their neighbours did it all the time.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 9:24pm

I have no issues with it and my kids seem fine with us walking around naked. Both my boys come into the bathroom when I am showering and talk to me and I am fine with it.

I drove back to my place with only a bra on the other day cos I had to leave my dirty top at my friends place.



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Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 9:42pm
I'm fine with being naked in front of my kids. I don't parade around but in the bath or shower, dressing etc, not an issue for me.
I want them to know that the human body is natural and normal and not something we need to feel ashamed of.
DH is the same.
DD is nearly 6 is is just starting to feel shy about getting changed in front of people other than our family.
We're happy to follow their lead and when they ask us to cover up we will.

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 10:02pm
Hrmm, I don't think Mum and Dad "hid" it when I was a kid, but they never paraded around naked either - although they are "older" parents (Mum was 40 when I was born) so yeah, possibly a generation thing. I don't particularly like being naked at any time.... some of my ex-partners I didn't have a problem with it, but it was more body confidence coming into play then, and now I have no self confidence at all, and don't particularly like my body, so I dislike being naked. DH is the only person that ever sees me naked, usually just in the shower though. And I NEVER see my parents naked now...I'll talk to them through the door if they're in the shower. The girls being naked doesn't bother me though, although they haven't been to the beach or anything since they were born, so yeah.


Posted By: _SMS_
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 2:46pm
There is no walking around naked in our household.

We are always fully clothed unless we shower, or are getting dress etc.

I dont mind letting DD run around nude at home. I wont let her run around nude at the pools beach etc, and will most likely stop dressing her in public when she is 3-4. Its just to dodgy now days

I have no issues with DD seeing us naked, she showers & baths with both DP & I but this will most likely stop by the time she is 2-3ish.

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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 2:56pm

We sleep in the nude and DH has a habit of drying himself off in the lounge. Thankfully we're up high and the neighbours can't see in.

The main reason I don't do nudity is cause its usually cold - the least I'll wear around the house is a sarong with no underwear and I use my dressing gown in winter.

I remember my Dad running through the house naked when I was little and having showers with mum, as I got older that idea grossed me out.

I'm sure we'll do what ever we feel comfortable with when the baby comes - I'm more worried that the neighbours will see or someone will knock on the door when I'm naked. 

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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 4:44pm

lol this is a great topic!

DF and I have no problem at all being naked in front of Clodagh, although it only happens getting ready for shower, dressing etc...not 'deliberate' nude walking around IYKWIM? That's mainly cos I feel the cold SO badly otherwise I probably wouldn't care lol also, incidental nakedness in family life context is far different from deliberate exposure or forcing children to view parents/siblings naked.

I totally hear what people are saying about the age of internet and media however I'd like to think I wouldn't let that stop me letting my babies swim naked or play naked if they (and I) chose. The sad fact is most pervs and sexual offenses against children are from people we know and trust.

Also- just to get on  my feminist soapbox- I think it's FAR more damaging to have wee girls in bikinis and sexual type 'adult' clothes than naked.  At least naked children look like children....dressed up in crap like that they can look like miniture,  'sexual' beings.....a perverts dream yuck

*edited to add* I used to be shy about my body in front of my mother before I gave birth- now she has seen me naked so many times I don't give it a second thought. I love my body. It's not perfect but I don't want it to be. It's healthy and strong and there's honestly nothing about it I'd change. I want to pass that confidence onto my daughter



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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 6:27pm
This is interesting

Well I remember growing up seeing my Mum naked all the time. Right up until I was a teenager she would always shower and get dressed with the door open. It was no big deal. While she didn't have the best bod out there (she had 4 rather large babies lol) it certainly didn't scare me for life! However I only remember seeing Dad in the nud once and it was me walking into the bathroom by accident. I remember being about waist height so that was a little scarring lol.

Now when it comes to my own kids I walk around naked quite happily but have a strict no nookie in front of kids policy. Of course we kiss in front of the girls but only when fully clothed and that's as far as it goes. I have noticed the couple of times DH has been naked in front of the girls he has gotten embarrassed and quickly covered himself up. I guess I will follow my Mums lead and never close doors as I want my kids to have as few body hang ups as possible and I figure if they see my awful body on parade every so often and see how much I don't care it may help them in some small way

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Posted By: lisa85
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 6:28pm
Oh and I would like to clarify that me being naked only happens when getting dressed or having a shower I'm not into being naked just for the sake of it lol

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Posted By: amme_eilyk
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 7:13pm
this is something I hadnt even though of. I vaguely remember having baths with mum and dad when I was maybe 6 or so. I think I will just see how it goes when we have kids, I do sit on the couch part naked when I cant be bothered getting dressed straight away or I am distracted. I'm not sure how dh is to some degree will depend if boys or girls. The nudity in public will depend who is around at the time for the kids, if it is pretty quiet and just families then it is fine, but if there are weird people around then wont be.

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Posted By: My3Sons
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 7:41pm

Originally posted by kiwi2 kiwi2 wrote:

As for changing rooms etc I have only just let my son go in unsupervised at the age of 9. Before then if my DH wasn't with me I would take him in the womans. I would rather he was in there with me than with some dodgy guy in the mens. Also if something goes wrong and he is taking a while there is no way you can check on him in the mens.   I haven't done changing rooms but public toilets etc. Normally I will do the wheelchair ones as they are unisex but if none are available I will do a womans one.

Goodness I am sounding like a very overprotective mum now.

 

Sounds just like what I do Kiwi2, not overprotective at all, just sensible! My DS has just turned 9 and he has started closing the door when he goes to the toilet.   I dont have a problem with the kids seeing us naked at home.  I hate the fact that there are so many dodgy disgusting people in the world but sadly that is the truth, I wouldnt let my boys be naked out in public unless it was close family or friends, I guess you have to go with your gut on these things?  Interesting discussion!



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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 9:15am

I was thinking about this thred last night and can totally see where everyone is coming from on all sides. I guess my concern is that pervs will be pervs no matter whether out kiddies are clothed or not and that I still think it's those closest to us we need to watch more IYKWIM.  The issue I have with being 'over protective' (not saying anyone here is), is that how do you the explain to your wee one WHY you are being so? That there are pervs around? Do we really want our children growing up being scared of things that statistically they don't need to be scared of? Shouldn't we be putting our energies into fostering self respect, common sense, the difference between good and bad touching, healthy relationships and stopping the segregation of boys and girls and putting an end to the early sexualisation of our girls in paticular?

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Posted By: My3Sons
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 10:33am

I get what you mean Emmecat, to me its not being overprotective, its about what is acceptable really.  Like when my 9 year old finishes swimming lessons he cant just get changed in the middle of the pool area or walk around the pool naked.  That isnt appropriate and he needs to go change in the changing area.  And if we were all swimming I would take them all into the changing room with me so I can keep an eye on everyone.  I dont try and scare my boy and the fact is statistics mean crap when we are talking about my kids, I will do everything in my power to protect them that is my job as their Mum.  At the same time teaching them common sense and self respect 

 

Hope that came across how I meant it to

 



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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 1:42pm
My3sons- totally get what you mean hun  I guess cos I have a wee baby I'm thinking more in terms of preschoolers adn toddlers IYKWIM? I would also not allow nor accept my 9 year old daughter (or son) to get changed in public lol

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Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 3:50pm
Originally posted by My3Sons My3Sons wrote:

And if we were all swimming I would take them all into the changing room with me so I can keep an eye on everyone. 

I dont try and scare my boy and the fact is statistics mean crap when we are talking about my kids, I will do everything in my power to protect them that is my job as their Mum.  At the same time teaching them common sense and self respect 


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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 4:19pm
Originally posted by Emmecat Emmecat wrote:

Shouldn't we be putting our energies into fostering self respect, common sense, the difference between good and bad touching, healthy relationships and stopping the segregation of boys and girls and putting an end to the early sexualisation of our girls in paticular?


Just my opinion



Can we not do all that with our children clothed in public????


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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 7:17pm

Mel- yes we can but I'm just making the point that if we choose to keep our babies clothed then it shouldn't be only for the reason that we're scared of perverts......

Each to their own anyway! My comments aren't a critisism!



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