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Topic: Honey
Posted By: mummymonster
Subject: Honey
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 2:50pm
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I cooked a honeyed pork recipe the other night, got me thinking.
I know you're not supposed to give a baby honey under 1yr because it may have botulism spores in it. What about if it's in cooking? Does the cooking kill any spores? ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 3:09pm
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Pretty sure it's fine if it's cooked but can't be 100% ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 21 December 2010 at 2:12pm
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Does anyone know this??
Every year we do a honey ham on the BBQ and it got me thinking about whether DS would be allowed it? -------------  
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Posted By: High9
Date Posted: 21 December 2010 at 2:20pm
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I was wondering the same thing too! They just say no honey before a year.
I have a baby cook book and all it says is it 'shouldn't be given to babies under 12mo, although it's rare, even pasteurised honey may contain botulism spores which can cause illness.' (Taken from Alison and Simon Holst - Baby Food and Beyond.) So maybe you could try it and see... I don't know. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: nicandtyler
Date Posted: 21 December 2010 at 2:47pm
Yea I heard that it should be avoided even if it is cooked, but Im not 100% on that, when Tyler was about 10 months I gave him a muesli bar that had honey in it and I didnt realise and then panicked lol, but he was fine with it  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 21 December 2010 at 2:50pm
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i found this on an american site:
Botulism spores will NOT be destroyed during and under household cooking methods and temperatures. The botulism spores can only be killed by the high heat which can be obtained in a pressure canner. The toxin (that is produced in anaerobic conditions) can only be destroyed by boiling (OSU Botulism FAQs). So technically, honey is not safe for infants even in cooked form such as in baked foods like breads. |
Posted By: MamaT
Date Posted: 21 December 2010 at 8:19pm
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Ok good to know, thanks ladies. -------------
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Posted By: UpsyDaisy
Date Posted: 22 December 2010 at 7:30pm
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what illness does the botulism spores cause? and how does being over 12 month protect them from this illness? The plunket info we have states no honey until 12 months which I have been following however I cannot state the same for DH... when miss was just 6 month I came into the lounge and DH was very pround of how well she was eating his toast on his knee. Very cute of course I ask whats on his toast he says honey! I freak out but nothing happened and now he thinks its just one of those food things where the recommendations change all the time so he doesn't really care about the rule despite what I say about it... 
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Posted By: kellie
Date Posted: 23 December 2010 at 7:27am
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It causes Infant Botulism. The symptoms can be found http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001384.htm - here jules1980
They say 12 months as due to immature digestive systems they can't fight off the botulism bacteria, and by 12 months they should have matured enough. ------------- 
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Posted By: bebebaby
Date Posted: 23 December 2010 at 8:03pm
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tehehe jules1980. My DH did the same thing, but with porridge. Put honey in it. He felt really bad when I told him they aren't allowed it yet.
But then I found out that I have given it to my DS as some of the flavored hummus' and yoghurt's have it in there as well. Gah.. Now I read the ingredients carefully. ------------- http://alterna-tickers.com"> 
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