7 hours and no sleep?
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Topic: 7 hours and no sleep?
Posted By: girly_girl
Subject: 7 hours and no sleep?
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 10:39am
GIrls, I am desperate for some advice!! My wee boy was born premmie and small, and is a very enthusiastic feeder. The problem is that he takes on a great deal of air and then can't deal with it. Last night he went for 7 hours with no sleep between the cluster feeding and the gas. He has colic powder in a munchkin before each feed, and gripe water as well as we need it. I also have his moses basket tilted when he does manage to settle. I'm not sure I can deal with another night like that   , any suggestions will be warmly received!!!!------------- 
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Posted By: flakesitchyfeet
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 10:57am
 Didn't want to read and run, but not sure I'll be so helpful either! Hollie was similar during those first three months. We we in on the gripe water, infacol, colic powder, you name it we tried it. I tried cutting out dairy etc as well, no real help.
It does get better, you will get through it! Easy for me to say, but I hardly remember it now  (Probably because those 12 weeks were so sleep deprived)
The best thing we did was stop using the car as a last resort. We found a McDonalds that was a decent distance away, and after 2hrs of screams, we were off. We ate a cheeseburger a night for a while. Seriously. Can't imagine what the staff thought of us! Babies screams aren't so loud in the car, you can turn up the radio, and they may settle for 20mins. In the meantime, you get food and a drive. All of your energy is suddenly isn't focused on settling the baby, and so it's a wee bit of a break. It helps to pass the time too. Good luck, hang in there -------------  http://lilypie.com"> |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 11:02am
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if hes not sleeping because of wind you could try stopping and burping him more frequently instead of when he has finished feeding. also the only thing that would bring up the wind in my boy was a teaspoon or two of cooled boiled water. and the other thing is would do is wrap him nice and firmly for his sleeps... ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: girly_girl
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 11:14am
Cool, thanks girls  . Haven't tried the boiled water yet, but that is definitely something we could give a go. I wind him in between sides, and give him a break to have a kick around too before we start the second side. We wind at the finish as well. He is well wrapped when he goes to bed too, in a 100% cotton knit wrap, then in a safe-t-sleep and then has a muslin wrap wrapped around the mattress and him too. It's nice to know that there is an end to it, I'm just so worried about him not sleeping for such a huge length of time and being so knotted up.-------------
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 11:16am
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he may be getting overtired too though... at that age they should only be up for about an hour at a t ime.
but yes it will end, and a new phase will replace it! ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: girly_girl
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 11:20am
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Thanks Bizzy , no doubt indeed! That's what my mw said too, and I agree - but nothing seems to help when he's that knotted up (he curls up like a tight wee ball and screams the house down). Sigh. Just need to get the wind out more effectively, somehow... -------------
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 11:38am
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other things that may help are the baby whisperers method of burping.. (she suggests that you keep baby lying down after the feed and rub their tummy in a circular pattern for a few minutes before sitting them up with a hand under their chin and the other on their back and rubbing the back. i think the best thing about this method is leaving them lying down for a bit, its supposed to give the wind a chance to centralise.) also i found sometimes that my husband was better at getting the wind out - especially if i was getting to the frustrated point. Theres the over the shoulder method - my husbands fave - lying over the knee while rubbing the back, and of course dong it half way through the feed as well as at the end of each side.
I suppose you could look at the hold too - not sure if you are breast or bottlefed tho. and if bottle could the type of formula be causing it? ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: girly_girl
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 11:52am
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Oh thanks Bizzy - have'nt tried rubbiing his tummy before sitting him up, mw said to try sitting him up, but didn't mention rubbing his belly? Excellent, will defo give that a go. He is being breastfed, but he does like to stretch out while on the breast (such a boy!) and I do wonder if this has been making it worse? Is there such a thing as accumulative affect with wind? I wonder if he is gathering it all up over the course of the day making that particular feed extra mucky? Sorry, lots of questions -------------
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 12:02pm
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i used to think the same too - it certainly felt like it was accumulating through the day. maybe when he gives a stretch while feeding you could take him off and see if you can get some wind up then... also try experimenting with different holds. Wind is such a tricky thing, and such a nuisance! ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 12:17pm
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Do you have a Plunket Family Centre near you? You can go there for a day and the PNs can observe and give advice about what might be going on - check with your MW if she knows of any in the area. ------------- Mum to two wee boys |
Posted By: NZCupcake
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 12:42pm
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Hamilton has 'The Family Centre', and they are awesome at helping with feeding and sleeping problems - just give them a call, explain the thing(s) you need help with, and they will book you in for a morning/afternoon/day. If needbe they get you back until it's sorted too.
http://www.waikatofamilycentre.co.nz/ - http://www.waikatofamilycentre.co.nz/ They are located at 4 Radnor Street (down by the river) We've had lots of wind/sleep issues (and silent reflux) with the girls. I'm in Hamilton - feel free to PM if you want to catch up and chat sometime. -------------  Cameron 10 ~ Sophie 9 ~ Nov08 Angel
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Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 1:19pm
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We used infacol at night for DS's feeds which seemed to really help get the wind up. And the baby whisperer method for winding mentioned above also worked wonders here.
I took C to an osteopath a few times which also helped relax his poor wee body. He would sleep REALLY well for a couple of hours after each session which was a big relief for me too ------------- SJ Callum - Dec 2008 Daniel - Oct 2010 |
Posted By: BeLoved
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 2:23pm
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We had the same kind of problem with wind and I swear it was wind that accumulated over the day and then made DD really uncomfortable (I myself suffer from trapped wind and its hideously painful!)
We used infacol, the NZ baby whisperer's method of winding (if you can borrow the DVD do so, so you can see exactly how its done) gently massage the tummy in circular motion during the day and at night especially after a deep warm bath the warm bath helps to relax their tummies (thats what healthline told me to do) and bouncing on a swiss ball while craddling or holding over the shoulder really helped to settle DD, in fact when I have trapped wind bouncing on a swiss ball really helps me. It is so hard seeing them so distressed and also going so long without sleep as they just get more and more worked up, but it is a phase that does pass and you do forget, so just do what you have to do to make them comfortable. All the best for a good night tonight! |
Posted By: myonlineself
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 2:46pm
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try this video - for the baby whisperer's method - I found it worked so much better than any other way for us.
http://tvnz.co.nz/good-morning/s2009-e210709-babywhisperer-video-2858443 - link ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: MistyMolly
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 2:52pm
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but my MW suggested I took Fennel capsules (got them at a health type shop) - this then passes through to the baby and helps with wind etc. The only thing I found though was that I am sure my sweat began to smell of fennel!! A bit like garlic I guess - seeps out of your pores! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: girly_girl
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 3:49pm
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Thank you so much for all the wonderful suggestions, and yes, seeing the video really helped! I will get onto the family centre soon, its just a bit hard to get around at the moment, I'm still not allowed to drive for a week and a half (c-section), but will definitely give them a call!
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Posted By: shadowfeet
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 4:20pm
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Is there a pharmacy near you that make their own remedies? One of the pharmacys down here has an amazing burp remedy that helps windy babies even more than gripe water. All the best for finding something that helps. It's so hard seeing the poor wee bubs hurting so much. ------------- 
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Posted By: fionae
Date Posted: 10 March 2010 at 8:54pm
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The other thing that could be happening is you could be eating something that is making your milk windy. In those early days I was having the occasional bit of chocolate which apparently is really bad for wind. Then I also discovered onion. That was the worst and I still cant go near it! I tried not that long ago and she still goes mad. She will cry blu murder for several hours...
I also found winding with her on my knee and rubbing her back worked really well....Good luck, and as the others have said it does get better, hang in there....  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: KitKat
Date Posted: 11 March 2010 at 9:50am
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I sooo know where youre coming from... hang in there!!!
We used so many things... its hard to know in the end whats working and what isnt. I do belive that using cooled chamomile tea was great. not too much or he will pee LOTS, but its calming and may help him settle. Also aids in calming the digestive system. ------------- 
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