Day naps gone to custard
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Topic: Day naps gone to custard
Posted By: ShellandBella
Subject: Day naps gone to custard
Date Posted: 17 January 2010 at 2:36pm
Ben has just turned one (but is 11 months old adjusted) and he's gone from having at least one decent sleep of 2 hours to 2 crappy 15-45 minute naps. I know he's not getting enough because he cries when you put him down and he cries when he wakes. When he wakes he is still rubbing his eyes, sucking his thumb, pulling his ears, but he gets himself so upset, I can't get him to re-settle.
I really would like to get at least one decent sleep out of him as I feel that he is being deprived of much needed sleep. He sleeps OK at night - usually does a 12 hour stretch but sometimes wakes crying out (but re-settles fairly easily).
Any methods to get him to extend his sleep? And what time(s) would be a good time to put him down? He is usually looking tired after only being up for 1.5 hours in the morning, but then thats a long time to be awake in the afternoon (as he usually won't have another sleep )...
Bella was such a good sleeper (on reflection ) that I'm kind of clutching at straws!
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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 17 January 2010 at 9:17pm
Hey! Could be a couple of things going on...
1. Kids just like to throw naps for a loop from time to time. Whether it be developmental or just a random phase...most seem to do it. If you stay consistent they eventually get back on track. Is he doing anything / working on anything new developmentally?
2. Short naps are very often due to either undertiredness or overtiredess. Try playing around with the times to see what works. I would say at his age that 1.5 hours up first thing in the morning may well be too short hence he is undertired at first but overtired later. It is very common for babies to get stuck in a rut of displaying tired signs at a certain time even if they are not really ready for sleep (both mine have done that). Maybe try doing some calm and quiet things with him at that stage rather than putting him down for a sleep and see if you can stretch him out.
Hope that helps a little.
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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 17 January 2010 at 9:21pm
James is mucking around at the moment too..but still having long ones. He used to wake at 7am, go back down at 9am be up about 10.30 and back down about 1pm, up at 3.
Lately we have either pushed the morning one out till 10.30 and he has had about 2.5 hours and then I struggle to get an afternoon one out of him or we have skipped the morning one and put him down at 12 is and he goes for 3 hours!!!!!
who knows...but I agree, that isnt enough sleep.
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Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 17 January 2010 at 10:57pm
Hey Shell
Callum was doing similar random sleeps/not sleeping when he was ready to drop to one nap in the middle of the day. We're still working that bit out really, but I try to keep him up till 11am now and that seems to be working out well. Some days he will end up having a nap in the car on the way home in the late afternoon, but mostly it's working out great.
I was finding C would look tired at 9am as usual but would be talking and fussing in his cot for up to an hour before he would go to sleep (if at all) OR he would only sleep for 30 mins or so and then the rest of the day's naps would be scr*wed.
Maybe try keeping him up an extra 30 mins or even an hour tomorrow and see how that goes?
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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 18 January 2010 at 11:49am
kiwisj....thats pretty much where we are at with James. I cottoned on to the thought of keeping him up longer in the morning after hearing what daycare do. I tell them he's ready for a sleep at 9 and they find that he wont go down till 10.30 and then goes easily.
Shell, you'd think we'd know what to do with our second babies woudlnt you?
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Posted By: _SMS_
Date Posted: 18 January 2010 at 1:04pm
We are having problems with Taylahs sleep also.
I find she keeps waking during the night also.
I think its the weather, its hot/cold everynight
I have just been going with the flow, yesterday Taylah had 2 naps, today she went down at 12pm so i will see how that goes.
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Posted By: ShellandBella
Date Posted: 18 January 2010 at 8:18pm
Nikki, he is just so different to Bella
Today he fell asleep in the stroller and that was about 9.30am so clearly he IS tired, but when we got home I held off until after 10am to put him down again, then he did a poo, and then he fell asleep around 11am. He did 1 hour 15 mins and thats all the sleep he's had all day. He wouldn't go down for any more
His top tooth has been threatening to come through for awhile, but I don't know if its that or he's just a crap day sleeper
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Posted By: kmarie
Date Posted: 20 January 2010 at 8:55am
Prior to 1yr old, Bethany just wouldn't sleep during the day unless it was a 25-45min catnap (best case scenario) or a snooze in the buggy or car. I found out I was pg when she was 11mths old and at that point started putting her to bed for an hour in the middle of each day (I couldn't handle the screams twice a day any more). It took her over a month to get the idea, but now she sleeps for anything between 1-3.5hrs at a time! While I was getting her used to it I put her to bed at 12pm and regardless of the screams I'd get her up at 1pm (or 12:45 if I couldn't quite last the distance!) I know this sounds terrible, but we truly had tried everything else and it was a last ditch effort.
I can't put my finger on when she started sleeping better (though it co-incided with her started to sleep 12-13hr nights consistently just after she turned 1, again because we had to treat her bedtime the same way despite screams) but that's how we got there. It was torture, but it was worse if I didn't try and get her to sleep! Nowadays I put her down any time between 11& 1 depending on how tired she is or what we've got on that day, and she sleeps for an average of about 1.5-2hrs at a time. Honestly, it's bliss after having 1 whole year of no real day sleeps!
Hope that helps? I know it doesn't sound ideal, and for me it went against the grain in every way, but unfortunately for Bethany it was the ONLY way to get her to sleep - I'd honestly tried everything else to no avail.
ETA - ps we weren't heartless, in that we made sure we'd covered all bases before she went down, ie. clean nappy, drink, full tummy, bonjela/pamol if needed... it was a real juggle to make sure we'd eliminated every possible problem so that we knew that despite her screams she really was ok.
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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 20 January 2010 at 9:55am
James pulled an all dayer yesterday . We went out and he missed his morning sleep and then fell asleep in the car. i woke him to put him in his cot (figured a booby would make it alright). Nup!! He played, then he pooed, then I fed him again, he played more...so i got him up. He was happy but overtired. At dinner he was having melt down after melt down...and he had a crappy night sleep and is grumpy today.
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