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Topic: Dads staying at Birthcare
Posted By: Treen
Subject: Dads staying at Birthcare
Date Posted: 05 November 2009 at 9:19pm
Argh, DH has just asked me if I've booked a corner room at Birthcare so he can stay there in comfort. I was hoping he wouldn't find out that he could stay but a friend let it slip that he stayed. I don't really want him there as I think I would get quite tense having him peer over my shoulder as I'm learning how to be a mum. He's got a really bad habit of questioning the way I do things and despite the countless arguments we've had, he just can't help himself.

Is it the norm for Dads to stay? I think I've hurt his feelings by telling him I don't want him there and now I feel guilty as he has every right to be there and I would anxious if I were him staying at home alone whilst his wife and newborn child were halfway across town. There might also be some bonding issues too if I get a 3 night head start and he's left in the dark.

I don't know what to do now. I feel guilty saying he can't stay but I really can't see myself biting my tongue whilst he tells me how he thinks I should try to breast feed.

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Posted By: SarahJane
Date Posted: 05 November 2009 at 9:31pm

For my personal point of view... you both need to learn to be parents, not necessarily just you needing to learn how to be a mum.

Your DH has a role, that is in looking after you while you look after bubs. You will need his help while you learn to bf, his job will be bringing you water, the phone and food (and that is just the tip of the iceberg, there will be tears and frustration in there  that he will end up listening to, all the emotional stuff).

There is a big picture here about how you are both going to parent your child, and the roles that you each will have, and that first night after birth is just the very very beginning of that negotiation.

Now is the time to start talking and for each of you to listen to each other, it is much easier to talk now than in the middle of a hormonal, exhausted, stressed out time that is a brand new baby.



Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 05 November 2009 at 9:37pm
When I had Jack he was born at 6.56pm at Waitakere and DH wasn't allowed to stay, I was actually quite anxious about being there by myself, I was also tired etc etc after the birth. I would ahve liked my DH to have stayed so that I wasn't alone, and I think I would have liked him there for the other nights as well but mainly for the company. However I know that DH would have been just as much in the dark as me and wouldn't have 'known everything'.
With Ben DH could have stayed at Helensville but Jack couldn't therefore DH stayed at home with Jack. I was ok with that this time, I actually enjoyed being on my own.

I don't think I would have coped if DH was telling me what to do. Him not being there hasn't effected him bonding with either of the boys. I would think that the vast majority of Dads don't stay at the hospital/birthcentre as many of them don't allow it.

Personally I think that you need to do what is best for you as if you are stressed/concerned etc then it will likely make it harder on you with bf etc and baby may pick up on it. Sorry though, can't help with getting rid of the guilts, unfortunately it is a common feeling for mothers!

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Posted By: Treen
Date Posted: 05 November 2009 at 9:47pm
Thanks SJ, I guess we've got a lot of work to do in regards to how we approach the learning process then. I will be the primary caregiver and I like to learn by doing things myself, making my own mistakes and learning from them etc. I can get super wound up by DH telling me how to do things that I feel I should know (like he does already with the cooking, cleaning etc) and I sooo don't want an argument at Birthcare. We're both very stubborn. So yeah, not sure it'll work but I'll give it a go.

So do most Dads stay at Birthcare then?

Perhaps I should write a bit of an extension to my birth plan... a special extension for how DH and I want things to go at Birthcare that we can share with each other.

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Posted By: hannibal
Date Posted: 05 November 2009 at 9:49pm
Oh I so would have JUMPED at the chance of DH staying - unfornately Queen Mary in Dunedin doesn't offer overstay nights for dads and even if they did DH wouldn't have stayed, I even had one old drill sargent of a nurse tell DH he wasn't welcome to stay - hello god knows why she thought he was! I found it quite hard - as we aren't from here and DH is self employed - so he didn't actually spend more than two hours a day (if I was lucky) visiting and to make it worse I had to stay in a week after having bubs and was readmitted two days after going home for a further three due to high BP. To have DH there in the night would have been great especially as bubs wasn't interested in BF and I had to try expressing - I would be up for hours in the night trying to feed and then expressing and then it would all start again so to have had someone else just being able to have a cuddle with bubs or a nappy so I could have abit of sleep would have been bliss.    While the staff are great - they will only do so much for you and a couple of nights they did take bubs out but only because I had a nice migraine. You don't need to make any decisions - why not book the corner room and think on it? If he does have a habit of questioning maybe just advise him not too! otherwise he might find his accommodation being rearranged. Goodluck


Posted By: Kicker
Date Posted: 05 November 2009 at 9:59pm
We didn't get a corner room when i was at birthcare (as they get taken very quickly and are allocated on a first come first served basis) but they did say that partners could stay. We decided to have DH stay but they ran out of trundler beds so DH slept on the lazy boy.

Although it was quite nice having him there for the first night, he got no sleep and neither did i just because he kept tossing and turning. The other two night he didn't bother staying, just stayed with us till about 9pm and then turned up at 7am in the morning.

I think this worked out well as he got sleep and then helped look after the baby during the day when i could get a little more sleep. In my limited experience babies like to feed non stop on the second day and i didn't see the point in DH being there getting tired when he couldn't really feed bubs anyway. I made sure he got to do a lot of the parenting when he came up to visit for the days. To help with their bonding he got to dress her for the first time, and did the first bath with me helping at the end.

Ultimately if you don't want DH there as you will find it stressful then i think you should find a diplomatic way of telling him, as i think its stressful enough dealing with a newborn as a first time mum. Just my two cents worth though.

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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 05 November 2009 at 10:30pm
I hated DH leaving in the evenings - nights were hell for the first few days and I would spend hours walking Daniel up and down the corridor cos the stupid MW told me he was windy. I would have loved to have someone to share that load.   ALso it would have been good for DH to see the reality - he got a huge shock when we came home and got really depressed - I think it might have helped (though it was good for him to get some sleep!). Maybe talk about what would be helpful from him but be prepared to review that on a day by day basis. It can all change depending on the delivery, your hormones, how feeding/sleeping is going etc.

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 05 November 2009 at 10:39pm
if he stays you will get charged for his meals... maybe you could compromise and get him him to stay the first night only.

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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 6:38am
I actually think you will find him a huge help especially if this is your first child.

DH got to stay with me in hospital and tbh I dont think I could have made it through without him .. I was up all hours of the night trying to feed a child (he helped me latch as there is such a shortage of mw's at night) and made me food and drinks, walked up and down for hours on end with a crying baby so I could get a nap and held me when I bawled my eyes out with frustration as I didnt know how to do this "Mum stuff".

He also got to learn how to change a nappy, how to bath a baby (which is obviously a lot different to a doll) lol and he also remembered the tips the mw's gave me about trying to latch, so he was able to say "lets just try this way" when I was getting frustrated and upset because I couldnt get Isabelle on the nipple properly.

Yes I snapped at him when he was offering advice .. but because he wasnt Mum, it meant he took on loads of information and could recall it for me when my sleep deprived brain "lost it"

Oh and to answer your question - its very common for Dads to stay at BC.

With Elias - he wasnt allowed to stay .. and I hated it, even though I knew what I was doing, it meant I had to make my own toast at 3am and change ALL the dirty nappies

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Posted By: busybee
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 8:26am
I would loooove it if DH could stay with me at Birthcare but we won't be able to afford it.


Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 9:10am
I would have liked my DH to stay but it's not an option at CWH, he stayed till about 10pm and then found they had locked his car in the carpark cos visiting is till 10 for partners but the hospital multistory carpark closes at 9pm. So he ended up forking out $50 for a taxi home, anyway that has nothing to do with this thread. I had had a c/s and although I could move by the time he went home, it hurt a lot and was very difficult so I was still having to push the buzzer every time Spencer needed feeding cos I couldn't get him out the bassinet or putting back to sleep or having his nappy changed and it would have been nice if DH could have done all that instead of some random stranger, especially considering that all but one of the mw just treated him like he was an object not a baby. He also remembered things from antenatal about feeding, burping and general baby behaviour that I had either forgot or was to sleep deprived to think about.

However I can understand where you are coming from and only you know what is best in your situation. Perhaps you could politely suggest that it would be good if one of you had a good nights sleep so it would be better if he went home and slept and then came in fresh to help you in the day. That way he can take baby in the day for a bit why you get some naps etc. That way you aren't telling him not to be there and you are asking him to help but in a different way.

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Posted By: MrsH
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 9:31am
OMG, I would have LOOOOOOVED it if my DH was allowed to stay with me in hospital but unfortunately they're not allowed. Instead, he had to drive home at 5am after being awake for almost 24 hours. I worried the whole time he was gone until I had heard from him.

I think it is a good idea to get things straight with him before the birth if he is prone to being a know-it-all. That'd drive me nuts too.

Don't forget that the first two nights are the hardest and the baby will want to eat almost 24/7 so it would be good to be able to feed and them palm off for a bit of a rest.

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Posted By: ohanlon82
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 9:35am
I will be going to Birthcare too - so hopefully i can get DH to stay.. i know he wants too and i really want him too

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Posted By: Skrip
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 9:45am
I think it's a very personal thing if you want him to be there or not. I have 2 boys already and a girl due in 10 weeks. It is my partners first child and he is so excited. I'm hoping to birth at Helensville and then DP will stay the first night and go home the other nights. Luckily we only live around the corner.

Sounds like you need to have a heart to heart with your DP and explain your reasons for not wanting him to stay. I know my previous births I would have loved for my ex to have stayed with me but he couldn't :( You might feel differently after 24 hours of labour!

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Posted By: SquishysMum
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 10:25am
I had a corner room as Birthcare (oh the perks of delivering there!), but DH didn't stay. We decided he needed to get some sleep in before we came home! My mum ended up flying up the day after DD was born and stayed the 2nd night, which was a godsend! I didn't have a very good birthcare 'aftercare' experience, and it was so good to have mum there to ask questions to when the MW's were too busy (ie EVERY time I called!).

So, it was good to have someone there for the second night, the first night I was ok, and for the 3rd night I didn't want to stay any longer there so we left to come home at 10pm.

Maybe if he stayed one night, and then got sent home to 'prepare' for baby's arrival for the rest of it?


Posted By: RinTinTin
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 10:40am

Treen - I know how you feel with you DH being one to question everything you do, my DP can get that way.

Firstly, just remember he is learning too and he will probably surprise you with the info he takes on board and how much you might appreciate his help.

Just remember this - If he questions how you're doing things you can always say to him "Hey babe, let me learn how to do this" OR "Well go find me a nurse/MW and ask them to come help me to make sure" (at least with the last one he has to leave the room!)

I am sure you'll be tired enough to be able to snap that kind of stuff out.

Also at Birthcare centres you have lovely lovely MW's who will come in and help you at any time. So whenever you go to do something with baby, hit the buzzer and an MW will come to help. That way they are helping, your DH can't question if you're doing it right and you're being taught by the best and gleaning all the little bits of info off them that you can.

 

Thats my plan anyway.



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Posted By: Treen
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 11:00am
Thanks for all the great advice, girls, I love this site!

DH and I talked about it some more last night and I said that it might be a bit distracting if he was there making suggestions while I'm trying to learn the basics. He certainly didn't deny this. In the end I changed my mind and said that I would like him to be there. I suggested it would be good for us to both learn how to change a nappy, bath the baby etc to which he replied "I already know how to do all that." Hmm, that response kinda confirms my concerns, don't you think?

I guess I'm just going to have to suck it up. As SJ says, he will be there to look after me so I can look after bubs and I know he will do a brilliant job of that. And like a number of you have said, I'm going be so exhausted, I'll need all the help I can get!

And Carin, that's a great idea! Every time he starts telling me how he think I should do something, I'll send him out to get a midwife or get me something to drink etc.   

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Posted By: MrsH
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 11:07am
It might pay to start working on your "You better shut your mouth right now before I rip your arms off and beat you to death with them" look.

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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 11:17am
Originally posted by AmStaff AmStaff wrote:

Treen

Also at Birthcare centres you have lovely lovely MW's who will come in and help you at any time. So whenever you go to do something with baby, hit the buzzer and an MW will come to help. That way they are helping, your DH can't question if you're doing it right and you're being taught by the best and gleaning all the little bits of info off them that you can.


 


Thats my plan anyway.



Ummm ... I dont want to burst your bubble .. but that is not the experience quite a few people have while staying at birthcare ... too many mums not enough mw's (especially at night when you need help the most)

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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 11:35am
We were "slightly" different, as the girls were in the Neonatal Unit, but I don't know how I could have done it without DH. As lilfatty has already said, the best part was he wasn't as sleep deprived as me, therefore he took things in a LOT better than I did, and could remind me (especially how to latch the girls). He just wanted to be so involved that he asked lots of questions, he would make me Milos when I wanted them or toast, he got me what I wanted DH wasn't allowed to stay, but there were nights I wished he could - when the baby blues set in especially!!! He got to stay overnight for the last week they were in the Unit, so we could both be used to their routines etc, and it was wonderful - he got to learn what it was like to get up in the night, and how you feel the next day and it really gave him a much better understanding of what like is REALLY like with babies !!

DH is a bit like your DH - tells me I'm doing something wrong etc, even now he does it, but I do it back to him and he soon stops because he gets to experience how it feels.

After that ramble, it's up to you how comfortable you feel, but his support can be invaluable when you need it the most - when you ARE learning to be a mum for the first time.


Posted By: Treen
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 11:40am
Originally posted by lilfatty lilfatty wrote:


Ummm ... I dont want to burst your bubble .. but that is not the experience quite a few people have while staying at birthcare ... too many mums not enough mw's (especially at night when you need help the most)


At $330 a night I'll be demanding a refund if I don't get the support I need!

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 11:52am
Originally posted by Treen Treen wrote:

Originally posted by lilfatty lilfatty wrote:


Ummm ... I dont want to burst your bubble .. but that is not the experience quite a few people have while staying at birthcare ... too many mums not enough mw's (especially at night when you need help the most)


At $330 a night I'll be demanding a refund if I don't get the support I need!


you are paying for the room and the food etc,not the midwives and support. You better get your husband to stay if thats what you want.

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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 12:12pm
Yep Bizzy is right, you are paying for the privilage of a single room which allows DH to stay.

If you dont want to pay for the same level of service everyone else receives, get a shared room which is free. (Then your DH cant stay anyway, problem solved)

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Posted By: sottise
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 12:31pm
DH ended up joining me at Birthcare after I had a wee meltdown and my parents moved me to a private room (big bed, yay!) >.> I really didn't hate having him there, even though he usually drives me insane.

The MWs won't always be available, and it was a great support having DH there - he got up with me at (attempted) feeding time, changed baby, wrangled visitors etc etc. I coped far better with him there than I did alone (even though it didn't help the feeding at all, heheh).

I don't think bonding benefited a huge deal, although he liked her far more than I did at the start. He probably would have preferred to be at home, to be honest!

I really hated the shared room and won't be doing that again for the sake of my sanity. You'll need to make the call on whether you're likely to suddenly want DH to be around - you might not get the flexibility to change your mind once there. We were just lucky there was a private room we could move to before I went on a rampage. :D

Oh, and if he stays, don't pay for food for him. DH and I shared my meals then he ran out to the local cafe / takeaway to top us up as needed.

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Posted By: Babe
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 12:55pm
I would've hated Jakes bio dad to stay at the maternity hospital with me
If I had the option this time round (which I don't) I still wouldn't want DP there coz I think its alot more stressful and we'd both get more wound up when its not our home environment. I'll be going home as soon as I possibly can but it'll be good coz he'll have other things to keep him occupied y'know? At birthcare its totally about baby where-as at home theres dishes and vaccuming and stuff

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Posted By: Treen
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 1:09pm
Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:


you are paying for the room and the food etc,not the midwives and support. You better get your husband to stay if thats what you want.


Oh man, I'm confused. So basically I'm shelling out $990 for 3 nights in a basic room with hospital food? I assumed it was so expensive because you were paying for the support of an on call midwife. If the majority of women are paying $295 - $330 a night and they're getting the government to pay for the shared rooms, I'd have thought that would give them enough moolah to employ enough midwives to share the work load?

If you're saying I won't get the help and support I need and that DH will have to stay there if that's what I want, I might as well go straight home from the hospital instead, right? Wait, can I actually do that or is Birthcare mandatory?

My mum's flying up and staying with us for 2 weeks straight after the birth anyway, so she'll be cooking for us and helping me with breast feeding, bathing, nappies etc. From what you girls are saying, it sounds like I'll be getting more help from mum than from staying at Birthcare?

Sorry, excuse my ignorance on this subject, I just assumed that at Birthcare, if I buzzed for help, help would come!

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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 1:17pm
$990 screw that. I would go in a shared room and then go home.

Treen I'm not sure what birthcare is like but what I found a CWH was that if you buzzed someone would come, but it might take a wee while depending on what else was happening and they were sometimes rushed so couldn't stay long to help. At the birthing clinics down here though the mw would come and sit and have a chat with you in the middle of the night just to keep you company whilst you fed and they would also make you a drink etc, if you wanted.

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Posted By: SarahJane
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 1:30pm

Of course if you buzz for a midwife a midwife will come. But you don't have your own personal one, you are sharing the midwives with all the others, and everyone will probably be in need, given that everyone will have just given birth.

If you want to pay extra money to get a 'hotel room', then that is fine. If you don't want to pay the extra money then you will get the same level of help from the midwives but you will need to share a room.

Depends what is most important to you.



Posted By: ohanlon82
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 1:31pm
Yip i am tossing up what to do but i am thinking i will probably just do the shared room.. will wait and see how the money is towards the end.



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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 1:34pm
Treen - you arent paying for them to be at your beck and call (unfortunately). If you buzz, someone will come, however it may not be an immediate thing and it may not be a midwife (they have helper people). If you are comfortable going home straight away you can (unless of course you have an emergency c, then you would have to stay in hospital) .. but remember its been A LONG time since your Mum was a Mum with a newborn, my Mum was pretty useless when it came to teaching me what to do with a baby (but she rocked in the cooking me food department)

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Posted By: sottise
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 1:39pm
Help will come - private room or shared. It's the same midwives for the floor, so there's no priority service for the private rooms. They will usually drop by a couple of times during the shift and will come when you call, but there may be a wait if they're busy.

In the private room you get privacy (mmhmm), your own bathroom and *slightly* bigger/better meals - not hospital drek, but not restaurant-level cuisine by any measure. But only you can decide if it's worth the $$.

We ended up getting the subsidised rate for our nights in the private room as we were only in so long because feeding wasn't established. And still wasn't after we left, for that matter. I wouldn't have gone for the private room if my parents hadn't paid for it, because I am CHEEEAP. Having experienced both though, I wouldn't hesitate to opt for private over shared again.

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Posted By: Babe
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 1:48pm
$990?????? HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!

Pay me that for 3 days and I'll be at your beck and call!!!!! Wow....

I stayed in hospital 3 nights then at the maternity centre for 3 and TBH it was a total waste of time for me (so lucky it was free ). I didn't get the help I needed with feeding and the only upside was no housework or cooking! This time round I'm going home as soon as I can after I've popped this little sucker out and if I have feeding probs I'll hire a lactation consultant coz I think thats a way better way to spend my $$$.

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Posted By: RinTinTin
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 2:11pm

Oh, your guys Birthcare must be lots different to ours.

I'm going to River Ridge East Birth Centre. It's a free, primary birthcare until

Bums! Glad I'm not in Auckland then.



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Posted By: ohanlon82
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 2:15pm
You can get a shared room free


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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 2:41pm
Cheaper to go to a nice hotel and have a helpful friend come and stay!

That said, it was good to have access to the MWs to have help with feeding, checking you're not bleeding too much etc. I had to stay cos of my bleed but I would have rather been home.

Find out how often your MW will see you after dc - mine came each day for the first few days but was only there for about 20 minutes - would chuck Dan on the boob and say "that's how you do it, OK? Let me know if I need to come tomorrow otherwise I'll see you in a few days". If you had a great mum to do the household running and a great MW to support you with feeding (or if you were happy to see an LC), then there's no reason you can't go home. You don't have to stay at birthcare - lots of people deliver and then go home soon after.

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Posted By: Treen
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 3:00pm
Yeah that's what I'm thinking, Flissty! Maybe DH and I will stay one night just in case something goes wrong then head home after that.

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Posted By: Febgirl
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 3:06pm
I went home straight after birth and made do with home midwife visits every few days, and it worked out fine. I didn't have any problems with the birth or feeding though.

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Posted By: SpecialK
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 3:28pm
We had a private room, and we were lucky that we got one with a double bed so DH stayed the whole time. It was awesome! He was very hands on, learned everything, minded DS while I had a shower, and when I wad feeling miserable because feeding was so difficult and DS needed a paed assessment and 2 hourly bloods he was there and was amazing support.

Some midwives were great, some were ok, I had one who was awful and made me feel even worse for not being able to BF, and DH was able to deal with her and look after me. All midwives were a call away, and helped with every feed, checked me and showed us how to give DS a bath.

We had a great experience, and would def be booking a private room again. Also, it was good not having any other crying babies around!

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Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 3:44pm

I loved having DH with me at Birthcare, we had a private room, and I think it was worth every cent of it. Sure the food isnt super flash, but having the privacy and space to be able to learn and deal with all the challenges that those first few days bring made it well worth it in my opinion.

I also liked the fact that I could have as many visitors at a time as I liked - it meant that my mum could stay with me whilst DH went and ran errands, and other people could still visit. I was so overwhelmed I didnt want to be alone. I was also very very nervous about leaving bubs alone even to go the toilet - so was nice having someone there to watch him whilst I showered etc.

I think that during those first days there is so much to take in and so much information that having another pair of ears is very handy too!

IMO the m/ws at Birthcare are a bit hit n miss IYKWIM, some are lovely, but some are quite old school and a bit gruff. I was reduced to tears several times by well meaning by forcefull m/ws manhandling my boobs in an attempt to get Oli feeding. They also made me and DH feel like criminals when we asked for formula - even though it was on the advice from the paediatrician.

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Posted By: palomino
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 4:12pm
I planned to go to our local birthcentre (free down here) but had to stay at public hospital for a week, but it was great. 90% midwives were really helpful and feeding got established really quickly. they were there reasonably quickly when you buzzed so i was quite impressed with the public system.


Posted By: SquishysMum
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by Treen Treen wrote:



Oh man, I'm confused. So basically I'm shelling out $990 for 3 nights in a basic room with hospital food? I assumed it was so expensive because you were paying for the support of an on call midwife. If the majority of women are paying $295 - $330 a night and they're getting the government to pay for the shared rooms, I'd have thought that would give them enough moolah to employ enough midwives to share the work load?


Pretty much, although the privacy is fantastic! I had my own TV (but no remote lol), own bathroom, own fridge, and didn't have to worry so much about personal items such as camera's and laptop. As for the MW's, every time I rang the phone to get one, either no one picked up or it went to a MW on the main floor (I was on the delivery floor). I mean, EVERY TIME! The top floor MW's couldn't help, I had to go out and search for a MW by walking around and hope they weren't all in rooms. Really great when you've got a screaming baby and can't latch them on!

Originally posted by TREEN TREEN wrote:

If you're saying I won't get the help and support I need and that DH will have to stay there if that's what I want, I might as well go straight home from the hospital instead, right? Wait, can I actually do that or is Birthcare mandatory?


No, birthcare is not mandatory at all. You can go straight home with the support of your MW, but you would have to talk it over with her regarding how she would be able to help you.

Originally posted by TREEN TREEN wrote:

My mum's flying up and staying with us for 2 weeks straight after the birth anyway, so she'll be cooking for us and helping me with breast feeding, bathing, nappies etc. From what you girls are saying, it sounds like I'll be getting more help from mum than from staying at Birthcare?


Maybe, but like has been said, it's been a while since your mum had a baby! I certainly got more help from Mum, but I'm lucky in the fact that my mum is actually a MW. I would have been better coming home as soon as mum got here! However, staying at BC gave mum a chance to clean my house ready for us to come home again

Originally posted by TREEN TREEN wrote:

Sorry, excuse my ignorance on this subject, I just assumed that at Birthcare, if I buzzed for help, help would come!


Most of the time yes, but not straight away, and the phone system doesn't always work as expected. But for the privacy aspect, single rooms are GREAT! I'll deliver again at BC to get my own room (if I decide to stay) any day.


Posted By: hannibal
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 9:54pm
Eww $900 plus I'm going to check that out wow I was expecting it to be something more than what the photos showed. Like the others said - sorry the staff especially at night when staffing numbers are limited you will be in the queue ..., during the day it can be crazy and sometimes the wait can be long too (I got forgotten once). So as in my earlier post the more you can rely on DH the better. I was kind of lucky in some ways as I part way thru my stay due to my high BP my MW demanded I get put into a single room - I absoultely hated been in a shared room although I was lucky as for the few nights I was in a big room I only had to share two nights.


Posted By: HoneybunsMa
Date Posted: 06 November 2009 at 10:45pm

I had a shared room and found it fine, the meals are ok, better then hospital meals, and the mw support is good. They are really good if you are a first time mum and younger I think, although there was one rather rude abrupt mw that was rude to the woman next to me she was having trouble with feeding. DP was there from 8-8 anyways. the first morning I woke up and was expecting bfast to be wheeled in and nope it was DP lol. I was like WTF? He had been downstairs in the carpark waiting since 7.30 awwwww he HATED leaving his two girls behind he sped home saying that if he had got stuck in traffic he would have turned back around and tried to break in. Remember he may be really torn about leaving the two of you.

If I could go back I would have birthed at birthcare just to get the room and so that DP could stay, he could go and get his own food lol. For me it was the fact that after 8pm everything kinda stopped, you know lights went down, it went quiet and 8pm is really early in my book, I just wanted him there for company and cos I missed him (I was griefing at the time though so that didn't help). It would have helped us to not get DD into the bed with us all the time however we came home and she went into the bed with us because she had slept on me at birthcare he was jealous lol



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Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 07 November 2009 at 11:30am
Yeah, I HATED the 8pm cut off. I was at Waitak and in my own room (no ensuite though, in fact you had to clean the loo and shower every time you used it ) and I would be in tears every time DH left. He wasn't disturbing anyone but the MWs were so shirty about anyone being there after 8. He WASN'T a visitor, it was his bloody baby and wife.

It was a huge contrast to when Daniel was in Starship - before he went to ICU we were told "you're not visiting him, you're being with your son and that is so important and you can be there whenever you like, even if it's 3am, just come on down". MUCH more family friendly and patient-centred.

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Posted By: Hunnybunny
Date Posted: 07 November 2009 at 2:29pm
Hi guys,
So I've only just started looking into the birthcare thing... (not long pregnant, yay!)

If I give birth there, I get a single room? Right? Or if you give birth you have to pay for one? I'm a little confused...
If I get a single room DF (who will then be DH YAY!) will be allowed to stay? But if I'm in a shared room I won't be allowed to??
I'm also planning on doing it in a semi-rural one (20min from kew hospital in Invercargill) so do you think things would be different there?


Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 07 November 2009 at 2:30pm
Originally posted by Flissty Flissty wrote:

Yeah, I HATED the 8pm cut off. I was at Waitak and in my own room (no ensuite though, in fact you had to clean the loo and shower every time you used it ) and I would be in tears every time DH left. He wasn't disturbing anyone but the MWs were so shirty about anyone being there after 8. He WASN'T a visitor, it was his bloody baby and wife.

Sorry for the TJ but it still makes me so angry.


You know husbands aren't allowed to stay for the safety of the other mothers. You know your husband but everyone else doesn't and they do not have the staff (or security) to be able to keep an eye on who is going into each room at night. It sucks you can't have your husband there but its to keep you safe from the other husbands and so mothers do not have to worry which men will see then in thier PJs in the middle of the night going to the loo.


Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 07 November 2009 at 2:41pm

According to the Health & Disablity Commisions list of patient rights -

Right to Support

Every consumer has the right to have one or more support persons of his or her choice present, except where safety may be compromised or another consumer's rights may be unreasonably infringed

So if someone told my husband to leave - I would be kicking up a hell of a stink, unless they could categorically prove that he was comprimising someone elses safety!!!!!! I bet that women sharing a room would be quite happy to let your husband stay (obviously not overnight - but as long as needed)  if they thought that they were given the same option.

I recognise that in some cases this wouldnt be practical, but I think that m/ws / nurses in situations like this kick up a hell of a fuss because "its the rules" when in fact it is a breach of your patient rights.



Posted By: SarahJane
Date Posted: 07 November 2009 at 3:00pm

I think all of you that are having to pay so much for being in a non-shared room are just living in the wrong part of the country.

My little local hospital has only four a/n rooms and two birthing rooms, and we are 1 1/2 hours away from a tertiary hospital, but we don't have to share at all .



Posted By: fire_engine
Date Posted: 07 November 2009 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by RachandJack RachandJack wrote:

You know husbands aren't allowed to stay for the safety of the other mothers. You know your husband but everyone else doesn't and they do not have the staff (or security) to be able to keep an eye on who is going into each room at night. It sucks you can't have your husband there but its to keep you safe from the other husbands and so mothers do not have to worry which men will see then in thier PJs in the middle of the night going to the loo.


Yet somehow other services seem to manage that issue quite fine - Helensville Birthing Unit, all of the Starship wards where there are often postnatal mums staying over night on the ward with other dads wandering around, other birthing services ....

I know what you're saying and I know that what is patient centred to me (having my DH there to support me and DS) is different to how someone else may define it but I do think things could be done differently.

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Posted By: HoneybunsMa
Date Posted: 07 November 2009 at 3:30pm

HunnyBunny, birthcare in Auck I can only speak about as thats the only one I have been to and looked into.

If you give birth at birthcare then you are moved into a private room, this may or may not have a single bed and bassinet, hairdryer etc. They can bring in a trundler bed for your DH BUT you still have to pay $50 a night for your DH to stay if I remember correctly.

If you birth at Auck hospital everyone goes to birthcare afterwards, you have to make your own way there. The only times you don't go to birthcare is if there is a problem with the baby or yourself, or you are under mental maternal health. Then you stay at Auck hospital and likely that you get a single room anyway or a shared room and they try not to put you in a room with someone else.

If you go to birthcare and you opt for a shared room, you basically get a bed, and a chair next to you, a bassinet for the baby and a cupboard, if your lucky you have the window and therefore abit more light then next to the wall. (Unfortunately for me I got the wall) At birthcare nappies and wipes are provided, so thats one less thing you have to "pack". Also they supply sanitary pads for you after.

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Posted By: Hunnybunny
Date Posted: 07 November 2009 at 5:10pm
oOElleOo Thanks but one of the other Invercargill ladies PM'ed me with a lot of information I didn't know about.

Turns out Kew hospital is only private rooms, no shared (I didn't know this as I've only ever been in maternity ward once with a friend who lost bub at 25ish weeks so thought she was kept seperate for obvious reasons)

And got a bit more info on the birthcare place aswell which was great

I haven't had a chance to ask my midwife yet as I haven't met with her yet..


Posted By: HuntersMama
Date Posted: 07 November 2009 at 6:17pm
There are plenty of other community birthing centres where you can get a private room for free, depending on what part of Auckland you live in.

I am giving birth at middlemore and have the option of birthcare, botany or papakura all free. Birthcare you are in a shared double room, which may or may not be occupied at the same time you are there. Botany and Papakura you get a private room. Ill probably go to botany because its alot closer to home and family.

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Posted By: hannibal
Date Posted: 07 November 2009 at 9:59pm
Gosh wouldn't it be so nice for the Materity wards to be set up with all single rooms with ensuites! I was lucky to have a private, single room for most of my stay due to me having BP. It was so nice not having others coming and going ..., I felt really sorry for the mums who where crapped into a six bedroom room!


Posted By: X
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 9:04am
Apparently if you have Southern Cross & have been with them for over a certain length of time (may be 4 yrs but not sure), you can claim $1000 towards the cost of your delivery etc. This can be used for specialist fees, anaesthetist fees, or even birthcare private room fees. I have a GF who claimed her private room cost back from Southern Cross. Worth looking into if you are not needing a specialist or private anaesthetist.

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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 9:42am
Yep I used it to claim the cost of my scans back

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Posted By: SarahJane
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 9:51am

Originally posted by Odettenz Odettenz wrote:

Apparently if you have Southern Cross & have been with them for over a certain length of time (may be 4 yrs but not sure), you can claim $1000 towards the cost of your delivery etc. This can be used for specialist fees, anaesthetist fees, or even birthcare private room fees. I have a GF who claimed her private room cost back from Southern Cross. Worth looking into if you are not needing a specialist or private anaesthetist.

That's interesting. My Southern Cross VIP policy specifically excludes 'treatment for pregnancy and childbirth'.



Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 9:55am
SJ - Its a long term benefit .. I think you have to be a member for three or four years. I was only eligible for Elias, not Isabelle.

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Posted By: Treen
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 10:44am
Yeah, it's 3 years. I just found it on page 21 of Your Wellbeing Plan down the bottom under obstetrics allowance. You can claim up to $1250 a year so you could claim both your accommodation and scans which is pretty sweet. I've only had my policy for 1 year but that's great to know for the next kid. Thanks girls!

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Posted By: SarahJane
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 10:54am

Well I have been a member for four years. And it is still specifically excluded. Hmmm.

Ohhh now I see it. VIP1 you don't get it. VIP2 you do. So it depends on your plan as well asyour length of membership.



Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 11:10am
Ahhhh! Yep Im on VIP4

Apparently its available for VIP 2, 2+, 3 & 4 as well as First Cover 2 & 2+

And that reminds me to put in a southern cross claim lol (thank you ladies)

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Posted By: Treen
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 11:10am
Yip, that's the puppy! Hope you have Wellbeing 2 plan, SJ.

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Posted By: HuntersMama
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 4:45pm
Hmm, I am with Tower and have up to $1000 to spend on specialists etc (that I dont need). I might give them a call tomorrow and check.

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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 6:39pm
We've got Southern Cross UltraCare 100 and I used the obstetrics allowance to pay for the OB with the gremlins, and scans etc. with lil miss.

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Posted By: M2K
Date Posted: 08 November 2009 at 11:35pm
Originally posted by hannibal hannibal wrote:

Gosh wouldn't it be so nice for the Materity wards to be set up with all single rooms with ensuites! I was lucky to have a private, single room for most of my stay due to me having BP. It was so nice not having others coming and going ..., I felt really sorry for the mums who where crapped into a six bedroom room!


I had a private room with ensuite at chw which was great cos the first night I was still in the hospital gown, was so sore and had no energy, so was up trying to walk at snails pace to toilet with my bum hanging out of the gown in yucky floral granny panties *bleaugh*!

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Posted By: kriss
Date Posted: 09 November 2009 at 11:07am
Hi Treen,

Sorry i've skipped all the posts but just wanted to say that even though we had booked for DH to stay at BC with me, after a straightforward natural birth but at a very busy time at BC he was sent to sleep on a Lazyboy in the waiting room lol as I ended up having to share a room..

Sometimes things don't happen as you expect them to, and you don't really know what will happen with your birth until it does happen.. iykwim.

Good luck with your birth, hope all goes well x

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Posted By: Treen
Date Posted: 09 November 2009 at 12:12pm
Thanks for that, Kriss.

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Posted By: MissAngel
Date Posted: 09 November 2009 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by JoleneandJustin JoleneandJustin wrote:


I had a private room with ensuite at chw which was great cos the first night I was still in the hospital gown, was so sore and had no energy, so was up trying to walk at snails pace to toilet with my bum hanging out of the gown in yucky floral granny panties *bleaugh*!



LOLOLOL! Same here! Gosh those gowns are revolting arent they. They could at least put in a bum flap :P

What I would have given to have hubby stay with me in hospital! specially when they transferred me out to crappy rangiora hospital. This time I will be going straight home (as long as I have no complications from the c-section)

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