baby bjorn carriers
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Topic: baby bjorn carriers
Posted By: skp
Subject: baby bjorn carriers
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 6:32pm
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Sorry I know this should be in product reviews but I kinda wanted a quick reply. I have a moby wrap and want something more structured and also ok for my husband (he wont wear the moby) I saw the bjorn at the parent and child show today, are these any good? Is there something better but in a similar style? needs to be able to face in or out.
Will be back at the show tomorrow am, so might buy it if others have had success with them. TIA ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: WestiesGirl
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 6:41pm
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We have one and Dh loves it. He wears both the Moby and Bjorn but at the moment still prefers the Bjorn. I prefer the Moby though.
Not too sure if there is anything better as we only have the Bjorn and Moby. The Bjorn is pretty well structured and can face baby both ways. ------------- Our Angel July 08  Gone but not forgotten
And to complete our family, our princess has arrived 
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Posted By: Mamma2N
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 7:09pm
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Personally I wouldn't get a Bjorn - I would go for a Beco, Ergo or Patapum..
Where is Hippymama and/or Weegee?? I'm sure they'll be able to explain things to you. Or check out the http://www.slingbabies.co.nz/Site/Asian-Style.ashx - slingbabies site. |
Posted By: SBM
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 9:50pm
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I personally don't like Bjorns as you can't back carry. And they're soooo expensive for what they are, I'd much rather get an Ergo or Manduca. Although they don't face out.
The design of it means that baby is supporting all their weight on their pelvis whereas carriers like Anna mentioned spread the weight over baby's thighs, as they're supported from under one knee to the other... iykwim. I've not tried a Beco but hear loads of good things, and I think you might be able to face out with them??? |
Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 9:51pm
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I'm here! LOL
Please, I'm begging you, don't get a Bjorn - they are really poorly designed in terms of proper support for baby's spinal structure as a whole... the less popular nickname for that style of carrier is a 'crotch dangler" as it cuts in right under bubs spine and puts the bulk of the pressure there, not to mention the weight is also centered on your shoulders which is a real drag. I would also look at something more like an Ergo / Beco / Patapum or my personal favorite is the Kozy... sadly though the Kozy retailer for NZ is not exhibiting at the P&C show this year but you can buy via "http://www.aquabub.co.nz" - Aquabub These sorts of carriers support the babes spine and hips, can also face inwards or outwards on the front, as well as back and hip carry. I'd highly recommend checking out this particular link from the Slingbabies site: "http://www.slingbabies.co.nz/Site/Positioning/Correct_Positioning_by_M_liss_Stelzer.ashx" - 'Correct Positioning' by M'liss Stelzer ------------- Mama to two earth walkers & two angels. Remember, you are not managing an inconvenience; You are raising a human being. ~ Kittie Franz Next Slingbabies! Meet - Friday 4th May !! |
Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:01pm
Haha lol I'm putting my feet up after a long day selling Moby wraps 
I agree, I personally wouldn't go for a Baby Bjorn at all. Arguably because baby is essentially hanging by the crotch it's not that great for their spine, a wrap or SSC (soft structured carrier) are much better. (That said I'm sure a Bjorn would be ok for short periods and is possibly still better than a buggy? No personal experience though) Show your DH some of the pics in the baby wearing pics thread in the photo gallery, there are a few men wearning bubs in a wrap! But if he won't do a wrap then he might like something with bells and whistles (men seem to like buckles!) like an http://www.bellybeyond.co.nz/shop/Babywearing+ErgoBaby+DulceZoet+baby+slings+Moby+Wrap/Ergo+Baby+Carrier+only+%24197.html - Ergo or http://www.bumbles.co.nz/products/Patapum-Baby-Carrier.html - Patapum (a http://www.tweedle.co.nz/tweedle/products.aspx?section=6&category=71 - Beco is lovely but pricey and not very manly IMO!) or my favourite SSC, a http://www.preciousbubba.com - Manduca . Or a mei tai type carrier like a http://www.aquabub.co.nz/contents/en-us/d41.html - Kozy ? (There are some quite manly Kozy prints) ------------- 
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:01pm
I have used a Bjorn (not with Callum but in my job) and we have an Ergo for Callum and I am with the others - an Ergo-type carrier is WAY more comfortable for you AND for bub. My DH will happily wear C in the Ergo, it's manly enough 
The downside is that they can't face forward in the front carry position, but they do the back and hip carry (unlike a Bjorn). ALSO they will last way longer. Most of my friends with Bjorns had to stop using them from around 8 or 9 months as their babies were too heavy to carry with all the weight supported by they poor shoulders! |
Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:03pm
LOL snap!  Sorry cross posted while I was faffing about getting links right.
You can face outwards with an SSC SoyBasedMama, you just have to make sure they're sort of angled backwards, sitting. Can be tricky to get right the first couple of times but it is possible. -------------
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: SarahJane
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:07pm
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No not a bjorn!
I vote for an ergo, manduca, mei tai or similar. Check out the sling babies site listed above. |
Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:10pm
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Me again! If forward facing is really important to you then a http://www.bumbles.co.nz/products/Pikkolo-Baby-Carrier.html - Pikkolo is prob the SSC best designed to allow it.
Although I will add this snippet on front facing: when baby is facing you, he can look sideways and still see lots of the world, but he can also look up at mom or dad for reassurance, and he can turn away from stimulation. When a baby is forward-facing, you can't see his face to read his expression (ie, if Junior is getting upset), and baby cannot turn away from stimulation (not to mention well-meaning strangers who have boundary issues!). Front-facing carriers also force the baby's spine into an unnatural position, whereas (SSCs) follow the natural curve of baby's spine. -------------
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:10pm
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Yep im with all the others (add to that the baby bjorn is ugly)
Beco probably wouldnt be manly enough. Patapum is usually a mans fav as its pretty plain. My DH will wear anything, even my Hawaiian print Ergo ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year  http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:11pm
Last post from me  If you're going back to the show tomorrow go visit Belly Beyond and chat to them about it
(ETA: or come visit me on the Moby stand and I swear to give you unbiased advice!) -------------
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:13pm
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Kozy Carriers are reversible too so if daddy doesn't like the print you can face it in so it's not as visible
One of my *cough*two*cough* Kozy's is the Pembroke print which DH has agreed "isn't too bad" LOL ------------- Mama to two earth walkers & two angels. Remember, you are not managing an inconvenience; You are raising a human being. ~ Kittie Franz Next Slingbabies! Meet - Friday 4th May !! |
Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:19pm
You are a sling library in your own right Miss! ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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HippyMama wrote:Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:31pm
Who? Me? Never!  ------------- Mama to two earth walkers & two angels. Remember, you are not managing an inconvenience; You are raising a human being. ~ Kittie Franz Next Slingbabies! Meet - Friday 4th May !! |
Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:33pm
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Damn I'm so going to have to get a Kozy for my own library -------------
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:43pm
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Elias didnt like them .. although he was smaller then, so he may like them now ... maybe I will try one out at the next meeting. ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:44pm
You'd be able to stick his legs out by now instead of having them frogged up I reckon J, or even face outward if you think his head control is up to it. Next Slingbabies meeting is only a week away too!  ------------- Mama to two earth walkers & two angels. Remember, you are not managing an inconvenience; You are raising a human being. ~ Kittie Franz Next Slingbabies! Meet - Friday 4th May !! |
Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 11:30pm
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wow thanks ladies, we won't be getting the bjorn now!
Its also me who (very sadly) doesn't enjoy my moby as much as I did when she was little. We live on a farm, I need something structured and fast to put on, I really wish I liked my moby more but I hate tying it and getting her in it sorry to all the moby lovers! Ok so looks like: Ergo, Pikkolo manduca patapum kozy Beco are the most popular types. I have been all over the slingbabies site, but just much easier to get 'personal' recommendations from knowledgeable ladies! Will be doing some research now on those types, please let me know if there are any other suggestions! Thanks everyone you are all fab! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 11:32pm
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weegee thanks heaps for all the links also, very helpful ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 11:57pm
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ok we have looked at all the sites and quickly gone through the positioning info and it looks like the manduca is the most suitable for us. Its a much better carrier for her hips/spine right? I quite like the kozy, but DH thinks the manduca looks more comfy for the parent? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 6:30am
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They would both be the same comfort wise (the Kozy might be slightly comfier for the parent) - well my DH thinks so, but its a personal thing really. ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 6:32am
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Sorry to serial post, but if you are in Auckland, slingbabies holds their meeting next Friday so you could go along and have a play with both so you can see which one you like best in real life. ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 7:51am
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I second coming along to the Slingbabies meeting on Friday - they have a *huge* library of all kinds of different slings.
But given that I heart the Kozy heaps, I have to say that I wore it at the P&C show yesterday from 9am-5pm with a couple of breaks for feeds and it was still awesome comfort wise - the shoulder straps are nice and wide and have extra padding in them. ------------- Mama to two earth walkers & two angels. Remember, you are not managing an inconvenience; You are raising a human being. ~ Kittie Franz Next Slingbabies! Meet - Friday 4th May !! |
Posted By: SBM
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 10:54am
I wish there were a Slingbabies in Christchurch!!! 
But since all you knowledgable ladies are here, I've tried a Manduca, Patapum and Pikkolo before, and generally found the Manduca and Patapum to be "much-the-same" (though we actually were able to borrow a Manduca for the weekend so I like it more for that reason!), but I tried an Ergo on too and I like that it has a pocket out the front that would fit my keys, wallet and phone in. Do you think that that's a good enough reason to go with the Ergo over the others?? Oh and any tips for a newbie Moby back carrier!? |
Posted By: SBM
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 11:10am
| Oh and also, would you say that a SSC is cooler/more practical in the summer than a Moby? |
Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 12:34pm
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I wouldn't necessarily say a SSC is cooler but maybe more practical, the Moby fabric is fairly lightweight and would still be OK on hot days in a lighter color - wouldn't want to have a black one in the middler of summer though!
For back carrying I am not so sure I'd use the Moby but know that people can and do, woven wraps are a lot sturdier and IME will last longer in terms of bubs getting bigger. I am a fan of Ergo's too though and have one in organic chocolate - the front pocket and sleeping hood are a definite bonus, though I'll be completely honest and say the only other one I've actually tried on is a Patapum and I preferred the Ergo over it. ------------- Mama to two earth walkers & two angels. Remember, you are not managing an inconvenience; You are raising a human being. ~ Kittie Franz Next Slingbabies! Meet - Friday 4th May !! |
Posted By: kiwisj
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 12:50pm
I'll give the Ergo another plug I  it!!! The front pocket is great, if we're going out on the train I will pop in a couple of sposies, wipes, small purse, house keys and a dummy so it's really handy.
We live in Singapore, in year-round 30+ degree heat and high humidity and yes it's hot wearing a baby, but it's hot anyway so we do it I wish I'd got hold of a Moby as soon as we knew C was coming early as he was too small for the Ergo for a couple of months and we didn't get the ring sling till later.
I have seen a few people walking round with teeny bubs in Mobys here and they didn't look any more hot & bothered than the rest of us
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Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 12:13pm
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I can't decide between the ergo and the manduca!
Does anyone have a manduca, its hard to see how comfy the shoulder straps will be from the pics on the website. I tried the ergo at the P & C show, it looks ok, it was hard to tell as we didn't have DH with us. Any suggestions? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: jano1
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 3:00pm
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I just recently won an Ergo and it's great! I was struggling with a too small front pack and a ring sling which bubs is way to heavy for these days. The Ergo is also manly (DH kept offering to carry her when we went to the beach ) and she loved being on my back looking out. The other day when we were having 'one of those days' I popped her in it, she fell asleep (yay) and I made a cake! ------------- http://www.thebump.com/?utm_source=ticker&utm_medium=UBB&utm_campaign=tickers"> |
Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 3:42pm
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The manduca straps are padded, but not as padded as Ergo straps, but I would think they are just as comfy.
For the amount of money you are thinking of spending, I would go and try one on. ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 3:53pm
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I my Manduca, it's very comfy and easy to position baby and take on and off, although I'm now a size 8 (yay breastfeeding weight loss rocks) and I have to tighten it a little more than the strap really allows for, the buckle is past the webbing bit if you get what I mean. So skinny ladies really should try one on to make sure it'll still be comfortable.
I always use the Manduca over anything else when I want to back carry because it's that much easier to do. There's a page comparing the Ergo and the Manduca http://extraordinarybabyshoppe.blogspot.com/2009/08/product-comparison-ergo-vs-manduca.html - here
My DH calls our Manduca the "man-can-do" -------------
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 4:12pm
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Thanks, manduca do trials so I am getting one sent up to try first.
Thanks weegee for the link
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Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 4:21pm
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I just realised I did sound very pro Manduca in that one! I should add that the Ergo is fabulous too! -------------
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: SBM
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 4:26pm
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LOL weegee, thanks heaps for that link! I'm stuck between Ergo and Manduca too, and I think that article has swayed me towards getting a Manduca... though I want a cream coloured one and they've sold out in NZ
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 4:31pm
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Teehee .. I doubt many women cross the straps over the front when doing a back carry .. ... unless of course you have no boobies ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: SBM
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 4:35pm
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Uh-oh, now I've decided on the Manduca over the Ergo, I accidentally looked at the Beco...
Weegee, have you tried a Beco?? Thoughts? |
Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 5:04pm
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Haha I have no boobies but still don't cross over the straps (it's easier to put it on without doing it that way).
I haven't tried a Beco (I think lilfatty has, and obviously Tweedle Rachael has!). They do look lovely though. I'm a bit torn about the layer between you and bubs - on the one hand I prefer bubs to be right next to me, on the other hand I think it'd be great to be able to take carrier and baby off in one piece and swap them over to DH. IMO it seems you're paying a little bit more for the prettiness factor but like I said I haven't tried it. It does look cosy for wee ones... -------------
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 5:06pm
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I found it uncomfortable as the part that comes between you and the baby comes quite high up (think t-shirt height with round neck hole), so I felt kind of suffocated (although im quite short so if you are taller, it might be less constricting.)
I thought it was the prettiest, but it was too uncomfy for me and had far too many clips ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: ?Lolly?
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 8:00pm
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I brought a Moby from the P and C show on Sunday and I it so much already! I just had an old ring sling that my aunt had given me and a Tomy safari thing and I hated both of them. The girls hated the ring sling and the stupid Tomy thing never really fitted around my boobs. I mean I im not skinny but its not like I am obese.
Still, it takes me about the same amount of time getting the Moby on than it did wrestling a girl in the front pack. ------------- Captain Chaos (5) & the Trouble Monsters (2!) 
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Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 02 November 2009 at 10:58pm
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I did like my moby, but I am one of those people who likes structured stuff. I was really good when DH was tiny though and I will use it again for future babies.
Hehe now I think I need two new carriers, the Kozy looks so cool too! Maybe the manduca for DH and a Kozy for me
Pity the beco isn't more straight forward, they have lovely fabric. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 03 November 2009 at 9:04am
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Muahahaha now you're addicted! You should totally go along to slingbabies (there's a meeting this week!), then you can see them all and try them all on in person... -------------
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 03 November 2009 at 10:30am
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I second the addiction warning LOL
I have two Kozy's, a ring sling, a woven wrap, a Moby, a pouch sling and an Ergo... and still don't feel 'complete' LOL !! ------------- Mama to two earth walkers & two angels. Remember, you are not managing an inconvenience; You are raising a human being. ~ Kittie Franz Next Slingbabies! Meet - Friday 4th May !! |
Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 03 November 2009 at 2:15pm
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I am really addicted now haha.
Ok so I might have to make the big drive over for slingbabies on friday. Is it ok as a new person to go? I'm a bit shy! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: HippyMama
Date Posted: 03 November 2009 at 4:11pm
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Yes, it is absolutely OK - Jessie who runs Slingbabies is wonderful and you are more than welcome to join us. For the workshops we often get new people so don't hesitate to jump right in. ------------- Mama to two earth walkers & two angels. Remember, you are not managing an inconvenience; You are raising a human being. ~ Kittie Franz Next Slingbabies! Meet - Friday 4th May !! |
Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 03 November 2009 at 5:46pm
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I will be there .. im not scary ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 03 November 2009 at 8:58pm
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whaddya mean, not scary? That lilfatty is a big meanie
(I'm kidding! I promise all the slingers are lovely ladies and you will be most welcome) -------------
Mum to JJ, 4 July 2008 & Addie, 28 July 2010 |
Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 03 November 2009 at 9:23pm
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Ok I'm definately coming now, I really want to see things in person before spending heaps.
Thank you all and see you there ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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