Ham! Please?
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Topic: Ham! Please?
Posted By: TraceyA
Subject: Ham! Please?
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 8:15am
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I love ham, one of my most favorite things about Christmas is that big huge ham that you slice chunks off around the bone. My family has a big breakfast with croissants, cheese, tomato, pineapple and fresh sliced ham (there is that whole scene where dad tries to cut the ham and we all try to sneak pieces, and mum yells at us and then drops the piece she's hiding behind her back, ahh memories). Then we have cold sliced ham at lunch with the other roast meats and then there is the too full for a real dinner so I have fresh ham on toast and then the same for breakfast and lunch for the next week! Take it to say there is nothing better at christmas then that ham wrapped up in it's moist pillow case in the fridge.
Now, I'm not allowed to have it this year am I, I'll be about 17 weeks by then... 
edited to add the photo  ------------- TTC #2 |
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Posted By: blondy
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 8:41am
I know exactly how you feel! I was in your shoes last Christmas. I missed my ham even more than a glass of wine  Needless to say, I will be partaking in both this Christmas!-------------  
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Posted By: xox6Girls1Boyxox
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 8:53am
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Oh The sacrifices we have to make for our little bundles. But it's all worth it in the end, I know it's not gonna be easy for you this Chrisi but you'll get by. My mouth is soooooo watering right now, LOL... ------------- http://www.bump-and-beyond.com/"> 
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Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 9:19am
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I really can't see why. According to the NZ Health & Safety guide all you have to do it heat it til its piping hot. And thats what I have been doing, and it tastes fine.
I hate how the 'standards' have made me so paranoid this pregnancy. I have children which are 8, 14 and 16 and food was not so resticted then. What is the difference between ham then and now? Nothing. My midwife and doctor told me that only a handful of people have had babies affected from from the effects of listerious (sp) so it has to be documented. It is also a statistic that 2% of ALL babies born will have some sort of malformation....does that stop us from getting pregnant? Sorry, it just gets so frustating,..,..you cant eat this, you cant eat that! Then I just think back to my previous babies, and they were all healthy and normal. But the 'risks' scare us into not eating anything! However, I'll be having my ham...just heated. So yes, they have scared me. 
My mother was surprised to see me turn down some food because I was pregnant.....why, she asked. She ate that when pregnant with her kids... Go figure! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: LeahandJoel
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 9:40am
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I have to admit that I ate ham after 12 weeks with both pg's. 1st was so sick with morning sickness I just ended up eating whatever I could keep down, and 2nd it was just cos I missed it plain and simple!! If I bought it from the supermarket, I made sure I went on a busy day when the turn over was gonna be high in the deli and only had it that 1 day. I remember having it cooked on the bone till really hot at some stage during at least 1 pg if not both. I think the only things I avoided were raw oysters and mussels and soft cheese, but other than that I ate what I wanted when I wanted it! (only avoided the cheese cos i'm not a huge fan, no other reason. I'm not eating it now!) -------------  
 
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 9:42am
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My mum and MIL have been saying the same things! Cooked ham of the bone thats heated would be fine... especially if you have cooked it yourself so you know it was done properly. I wouldnt be eating it straight off the bone without giving a good nuke first to be honest, especially if its been in the fridge for a few days.
I do think the whole food thing gets a bit crazy tbh. Same as alcohol. A glass of wine every now then is fine, but the whole world judges you if you dare suggest it! My personal opinion is everything in moderation and if its not fresh and you didnt cook it dont eat it. Which is my non preggy stance of food anyway ('cept at restaurants, then its just a gamble lol). I will be having my chrissy ham this year, on christmas day and MIL is going to cook it up so its nice and listeria free for bubs. Might even heat some up the next morning for ham on toast! Highly opinionated ramble over -------------   
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Posted By: xox6Girls1Boyxox
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 10:24am
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I agree with that statement, with my DD18, DD17, DD13, DD8 I was eating raw seafood and all the no no foods with them & now it's just my last 2 pregnancies and this one that I've really taken notice of the food rules....
I've been told that the proper heating and storage of cold foods are fine if handled properly... ------------- http://www.bump-and-beyond.com/">
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Nefertiti wrote:Posted By: blondy
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 10:30am
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I think the major problem is that we eat more pre-prepared food now, as compared to 10-15 years ago, and you can't guarantee the food safety of something you haven't made yourself.
I do agree everything in moderation, but as we didn't have a hot ham (and I far prefer cold meat anyway! ), I thought it best to avoid it. It's a hard place to be in though - on the one hand, you do end up overly paranoid because of all the warnings, but then again, how would I have felt if I had contracted listeria and something horrible had happened?-------------
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Posted By: LittleBug
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 12:29pm
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I will be asking my Mum to make the ham for lunch on the day, instead of the day before, so we can have it hot not cold. Then if I want more after that I will just nuke it. (We have Christmas as a family and Mum always makes the ham).
I missed ham last Christmas, so much!!  ------------- Chloe (4 years) and Oliver (3 years). |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 12:45pm
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I ate ham at christmas time, I was 16 weks preg. It was cooked(but cold) and prepared by my nana and it was YUMMMMM.
Caden is fine  ------------- |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 12:47pm
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Oh no LittleBug - sucks to be you, pregnant two Xmases in a row!!!!
I had ham last year but like everyone else has suggested I nuked it till it was piping hot. Same as all the other Xmas leftovers on Boxing Day. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 1:04pm
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*vegetarian lurking* SO glad to not be having this 'problem'! lol But I do agree with the everything in moderation thing...I fully intend to have a small glass of bubbly at Christmas.... and I will thoroughly enjoy it! -------------   http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 1:05pm
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I didn't eat any but next time I am pregnant I will be nuking it to piping hot...cold definitely a no go for me... I don't go with the it was fine in our day thing because of reasons stated above and because just cause it was ok once doesn't mean it would be again....BUT it's whatever you are personally comfortable with I just didn't want to risk anything at all. ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: TraceyA
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 1:56pm
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*kicks Karen's vege butt out of her kitchen*
Ok, I'll cook my own christmas ham! eeek! and when I want leftovers on toast in the morning for breakfast I'll nuke it first 
Thanks girls your all  ------------- TTC #2 |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 2:54pm
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The leftovers will be worse than the initial meal as there's been time for bacteria to develop.
I cooked my ham (vacuum packed boneless stuff) on the BBQ (we were camping) when I was 39 weeks. I did have a wee bit of cold stuff when it was first opened, as all meat is fine if its vacuum packed and consumed straight away. |
Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 6:02pm
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oh my GOSH i really want ham now !
and presents actually ...i want it to be christmas day ...with me eating ham ..... ------------- 
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Posted By: jaymiegirl
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 6:12pm
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Looks delicious! Roll on Xmas!
I also ate ham in both of my pregnancies.. Not all the time though, But it was just something i had to have every now n then.. I would have a slice anyway, just heated up or straight from the oven after its been glazed... YUM! ------------- Mummy to Caide 08/01/2006 & Ruby 24/10/2008 http://www.babysfirstsite.com"> 
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Posted By: Emmecat
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 6:46pm
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Don't be jealous of my nut loaf Tracey ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 9:48pm
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Emz- really all vacuum stuff is ok? ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 11:02pm
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Yep As long as its been refrigerated obviously and you eat it the day you open it! I unfortunately didn't find this out until I was about 38-39 weeks, needless to say hubby and I had ham sammies that day!
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Posted By: AuntieSarah
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 7:41am
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Isn't pretty much anything vacuum packed ok? My midwife said same for blue cheese - if it's sealed and I open it and eat it it's fine - just don't keep it open in the fridge and have it again later (no problem, just eat the whole thing at once lol). She said the same for pate too. Unfortunately vacuum sealed supermarket pate is nothing compared to the stuff mil makes. (and I know, shouldn't have too much anyway because of the something-or-other...vitamin A is it?)
Anyway so this is great huh, open the ham when you're hungry and have a big pig out on cold ham, then have it hot the rest of the time
Mmm all this talk of ham...I'm going to get croissants and have ham, tomato and cheese croissants for brunch I've decided ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: TraceyA
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 9:12am
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I thought the main problem with pate, at least liver pate, is the massively high content of Vit A?
We went to a gala opening of a friends play, paid extra for nibblies as part of the ticket, guess what they put out on our tables... a platter of ALL cold meats with a cut up tomato sitting on the meat, fetta in the middle and bread nestled in with the meat! I was starving and soooo cross! ------------- TTC #2 |
Posted By: blondy
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 10:10am
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Just wanted to point out that the listeria 'scare' earlier this year (while I was preggers) was a recall of pre-packed cold meat (admittedly only supplied to hospitals and cafes), so if it was me, I would be heating even vacuum packed meat.
and bummer about the nibbles Tracey - I went to a wedding that was almost as bad  -------------
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Posted By: SpecialK
Date Posted: 24 November 2008 at 12:28pm
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Just to add my 2c ... I absolutel love my cold cuts and seafood, especially sashimi and don't even get me started on wine... so am finding it all a bit hard!
Having said that, I am just trying to be sensible - so will def be eating ham this Xmas, but will be heating it up. And I do have a sip of wine every now and again. The only thing I will not touch is sushi and sashimi... guess what I am eating as soon as this baby is born! It can all get very difficult, and as my ob said - a recent case of listeriosis in a patient of theirs was from eating raw veggies... so sometimes you just can't win. Ok, spiel over ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: LittleBug
Date Posted: 24 November 2008 at 1:23pm
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Sushi and a chicken salad sandwich are some of the first things on my list too, SpecialK! Mmmm. ------------- Chloe (4 years) and Oliver (3 years). |
Posted By: SpecialK
Date Posted: 24 November 2008 at 3:21pm
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Little Bug - ditto re chicken salad sandwich! Although got round that on the weekend by nuking left over roast chicken and making my own sandwich... was pretty good, even if it was warm. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: sweetpea
Date Posted: 25 November 2008 at 1:46pm
| You could always cut off thick slices of the cold ham and have grilled ham steaks with hot pineapple rings. I do wonder too about all the food advise these days i know its better to be safe than sorry but sometimes you just can't avoid it i local dairy company had a listeria scare earlier this year too. Its just part of the risk that we take as a women when we decide to get preggers. |
Posted By: KitKat
Date Posted: 25 November 2008 at 5:25pm
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aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh I WANT HAM NOW!!!!!!! NOW !!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!
cold in a thickly buttered fresh white bread roll. urgh sigh huff hmph... *throws tanty*   ------------- 
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Posted By: first
Date Posted: 26 November 2008 at 12:42pm
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I love my ham off the bone at christmas time and last year I was in your shoes. Actually we were away with a bunch of friends and they were all eating this cold ham of the bone and I got so upset I cried. (hormones)
I am so looking forward to my ham this year! So all I can say is have a good cry about it and look forward to next year because once you hold you little bundle you'll agree its all worth the missing out of ham. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: weegee
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 6:39pm
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bump for sunshine ------------- 
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Posted By: TraceyA
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 11:03am
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I spoke to my midwife about the ham off the bone thing on Christmas day and she said that I cant have it cold but just pop it in the frying pan and sizzle both sides and I can have it, os that's what I'll be doing. ------------- TTC #2 |
Posted By: skp
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 11:49am
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mmm I'm so hungry after reading all this, been really good to hear everyones advice, I only have the M of Health booklet to go by my MW hasn't really given me the big food talk. I will be eating hot ham yummm this xmas.
I heard of a women who got listeria from those mussels cooked and marinated (but cold) from the supermarket. if you are eating vegies out of a garden where a cat might have been you can catch it from raw vegies. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 1:58pm
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skp- yeah thats why you have to wash all veggies firt...
sucks to be me..preg three Christmas's in a row..every year I have known my husband...lol! ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: AuntieSarah
Date Posted: 18 December 2008 at 5:47pm
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Our ham arrived today...SO want to just eat it cold! But planning to have ham and cheese/pineapple toasted sammies for lunch tomorrow...mmmmm. Want one now (but going out for tea for dh's birthday so probably shouldn't!) ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: TraceyA
Date Posted: 18 December 2008 at 6:01pm
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Sarah - shhhh! I just picked up some pineapple today and you reminded me that my ham will be ready tomorrow! Now I want ham/cheese/pineapple toasted sammie too! ------------- TTC #2 |
Posted By: canuckmama
Date Posted: 19 December 2008 at 7:12pm
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I wrote this in another post this am, but got the new Pregnancy mag last night, and Jessica Alba said that she ate a Ham & Cheese sammy every day of her pregnancy..
I eat lil amounts of whatever I want and have done throughout.. Cold ham, smoked salmon. I just listen to my body as I truly think it knows best.. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: jjands
Date Posted: 19 December 2008 at 8:34pm
| Cook your ham this year girls and fill yourself full thats what I'm doing then I wont be missing out mmmmm bring on christmas and mainly that ham... |