Phasing out the bottle....
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Topic: Phasing out the bottle....
Posted By: BaAsKa
Subject: Phasing out the bottle....
Date Posted: 17 September 2008 at 9:01pm
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At what age is it normal to phase out the bottle and permanently on sipper cup??
I know that for BF kids they tend to go straight to cups but Astin is FF. I remember observing my sister and her son and thinking "gez hes 14 months old! WHY has he still got a bottle!?" but i ate my words when I struggles to phase the bottle off Bay at 23 months!!  
The kiddies at daycare on the baby side range up to age 2 and they all still have bottles but im thinking of taking Astin off it..... What are your thought and what have you done??? |
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 17 September 2008 at 9:09pm
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Maya left hers out for Santa at 22 mths and he left her a special new cup in replacement. She was happy with that, but then she was quite cognitively aware, the gremlins are 23 mths now and they're nowhere near being able to understand that concept. I'm happy for them to keep having bottles for now anyway, in the grand scheme of things I'd rather fight the sleep battle than the bottle one! -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
 (02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 17 September 2008 at 9:45pm
I read that they shouldn't have bottles past 12 months, I also then saw a paed on TV who said the same thing, so tried my hardest to get rid of them but Spencer wouldnt' have any of it. Recently tried again and have now been on the sippy cup for two weeks and the bottles went in the bin
I found once he was drinking water well from the cup (which he never use to) then the transition was much easier than when I originally tried at 12ish months. Because he would get stressed in the morning and in the evening if I tried to give him the cup I instead reintroduced milk at lunch time but in the cup so he could just have a play and I wasn't fussed how much he drank. Once he learnt that the cup had milk then he stopped stressing out when offered at the other feeds and then once able to drink from it I removed the bottles altogether and took away the milk at lunch. I just wanted to do it sooner rather than later, for the health reasons and also just cos of the attachment thing, figured easier to break now than at 2 or 3 etc. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 7:29am
| I don't see the point in forcing it personally. Daniel still has it from a bottle. I'm waiting until he can successfully have a drink out of a cup by himself without half of it ending up down his front and him wanting to put his hand in the cup to play with the drink. Then I'll get rid of the bottle. |
Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 7:47am
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yeah i had heard the 12 month thing and thats why it stuck in my head.
Astin isnt really attached to the bottle and happily drinks from his sippy but he tend to not drink as much?? Stacey have you tried the non spill sippy cups to solve the spill problem? |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 7:55am
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Yeah Spencer was like that which was part of our problem but one night I just thought nope your having whatever you take from the cup and then going to bed, so he hardly had anything and then in the morning drank a whole feed from the cup and has done ever since. I was prepared for him to wake in the night but he didn't and i think once he realised no bottle was coming he stopped messing about.
Yeah when I say cup I mean non spill sippy cup, not an actual cup.
I found Spencer made more of a mess with his bottle than the cup cos he would wave that around everywhere as well but the milk would shoot out of it, normally all over me or the sofa. The cup is soooo much better and was another reason for getting rid of the bottles. -------------
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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 8:00am
| By sippy cups do you mean ones with a lid on them so they cant spill? Or just a normal cup with handles? Tom will happily drink out of a lidded cup, but its messier. He wants to drink out of a normal plastic glass but tends to tip it all down his front. We are still having milk in bottles before morning sleep and night time and it winds him down so I am loathe to change that....read...I am too lazy to change that. Do you think I should make more effort? |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 8:41am
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Yep Spencer has an avent one for his water and a tommee tippee one with a soft non spill bit for his milk, later the lid comes off the tommee tippee one so can be used as a normal cup but with handles. The way Spencer throws his cups around there is no way he would be given one without a lid (unless it was a nice day and we were outside).
It's up to you really, I do wonder how much worry it is when they are only having 2 bottles a day but just figured that I would get rid of them sooner rather than later. Spencer still has his milk when he first gets up in the morning, just now I take the cup in instead of his bottle, i'm loathe to change that cos it's the only time I get nice cuddles. At night he has his milk at 6ish in the lounge but doesn't go to bed till 7 so it was never part of his sleep routine. But then I never gave bottles or boobie before a sleep cos I didn't want to create that association. In fact our sleep routine probably is contrary to every book etc you will read cos it normally happens with a lot of noise and laughing and no winding down -------------
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 8:51am
| We have a cup with a lid but daniel hates it and whats the difference really between a bottle than a cup with a lid. it's just a difference shape so whats really the point in changing if thats what I'm going to? He does pretty good with a normal cup, so I'm just going to wait until he's good at that. |
Posted By: sally belly
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 8:53am
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I went to Plunket yesterday & our nurse also mentioned starting to phase out bottles from 12 months on. She didn't say why & I should've asked in hindsight .
She suggested offering milk in a sippy cup with a lid & straw. She then went on to mention that you could still give a bottle at night?? Or maybe I misunderstood her . I'll cross this bridge a bit later on. -------------    
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 8:55am
| I'm seeing plunket today so I'm going to ask why. I still won't do it until he masters a cup but I'm curious. We have sippy cups with straws for water but the straws dont even touch the bottom of the cup so that's pretty ass when you are dealing with milk. it's just wasting it. |
Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 11:23am
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My plunket nurse didn't even ask me about ditching the bottle so I asked her and she said theres no real reason to ditch it. Parents choose to do so because they want to. She said she doesn't tell parents to ditch the bottle until older. She also said toddlers can create an attachment to sippy bottles too so I come back to my original thought, whats the point? lol
Definitely going to wait until he can do a normal cup properly |
Posted By: MelanieAndBree
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 2:00pm
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Briahna is still having a bottle at night and before her nap. She happily drinks out of a sippy cup, but a normal cup she tips it down her front. I see alot of older kids (when i say older i mean older than Briahna, like 2) still using a bottle.
I too might wait till she can drink for a normal cup properly. ------------- Melanie. Mum to Briahna Robyn, 3yrs |
Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 2:38pm
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yeah i meant sippy cup not normal cup.
One of my main reasons for thinking about changing is the non spill cups because we have the nuby non spill bottles but hes worked out that if you hold the tip at a certain point with your fingers or up against the ground or wall then the valve opens so not non spill anymore!! 
I think i have now decided that i will throw the bottles away  and do what you did cuppatea and give him no alternative so if he doesnt drink all his milk from the cup then thats just tough titties!
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Posted By: LeahandJoel
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 6:36pm
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Leah has milk in the morning in a sippy cup, drinks water all day in a drink bottle with a straw, and has a bottle at night before bed. Sometimes she drinks all her nighttime bottle and other times she hardly has any. She doesn't eat a lot of anything with calcium so I am happy for her to still have this bottle. Also didn't want to make a big deal out of it before the baby came so am waiting for a bit to take it away. -------------  
 
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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 7:23pm
I have been trying to give Lauren her lunchtime bottle in a cup with a straw for the last month or so and she still hasn't accepted it, takes a sip and spits it all out 
Yet if I put water in the cup she will drink the whole 200mls without stopping ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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sally belly wrote:Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 18 September 2008 at 8:53pm
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For me, the gremlins still having a bottle is no issue coz they only have them before bed, and days when we are out and they have no day nap they skip that bottle. I do think it looks ridiculous when you see kids their age running round with bottles all the time tho, it's kinda unneccessary. They have water from a sippy cup/bottle during the day, they can use a proper cup but make too much mess playing around with it. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: McPloppy
Date Posted: 19 September 2008 at 7:54pm
| I Let my Lachie keep the bottle till he was 2 just for before his luch sleep and night time sleep then i seized the opportunity to get rid of it when he had a terrble tummy bug and could not have the bottle so he did not miss it so much when he was well. He then went to a water bottle and slowly a cup (not sipper cup) |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 19 September 2008 at 9:11pm
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The reason they say to move onto a cup is for dental reasons, if they move off closer to 1 than 2 or 3, there's less chance of issues with teeth and speech development *apparently*.
And I guess a sippy cup is like training wheels on a bike, you gradually move up a step until you're confident with tackling the whole thing IYKWIM. We are starting to phase out the bottle in 2 months so hopefully by 13-14 mo Jack will just have a cup, but hey who knows what will happen and you really just have to go with your child eh. |
Posted By: Peanut
Date Posted: 20 September 2008 at 12:08pm
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Was at plunket the other day and they said to start phasing out the bottle but should also look at cutting down to one "cup" of milk by 12 months
She also suggeted to me (as I think Cuppatea said) to start weaning the bottle/bed routine. So look at keeping the cup of milk at lunch time as its easier to get rid of the bottle if its not assocaited with sleep. Who knows what I will do! -------------  
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