Does 2 m/cs mean there’s a problem?
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Topic: Does 2 m/cs mean there’s a problem?
Posted By: Vanillabean
Subject: Does 2 m/cs mean there’s a problem?
Date Posted: 30 June 2008 at 11:27am
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I realise there is really no answer to this question.
Two m/cs could mean there is a problem or it could mean I have had really bad luck. I am feeling really angry that the health system won't help until I've had three m/cs. It would have helped so much to have been offered genetic testing on the POC or for someone to be offering me some kind of follow up right now. I don't want to go into another pregnancy without extra monitoring and support. ------------- 5x mc, Jan 08, June 08, Nov 08, May 09, April 11 http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 30 June 2008 at 12:16pm
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I can't remember the exact statistics but I do know that women who have had 2 m/c only have a very slightly raised chance of having another one compared to someone who's never had a m/c, the odds start stacking up after you've had 3.
I've had two m/c but not consecutive, I had one, then had Maya 6 years later, then another one, then the gremlins. I was lucky that they did do genetic testing after my second one as I was in Oz and it is routine at RNS hospital after a d and c, but it didn't tell us anything other than that it was most likely a blighted ovum. If you are really concerned, you could always talk to your GP and maybe get a referral to a specialist just to have a chat altho you'd prob need to go private as I don't think the public system will see you till you've had 3 consecutive m/c. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 30 June 2008 at 5:07pm
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I've had 3 consecutive m/c's. Last week at d&c they took heaps of blood tests, not really saying what for.
How do I get onto the public system for help? |
Posted By: Vanillabean
Date Posted: 30 June 2008 at 6:32pm
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This is probably irrational but I'm now having a big freak out. What if I just keep having miscarriages and never have any children. I know its not very common but it does happen to people and there is no way of knowing right now whether or not it will happen to me. ------------- 5x mc, Jan 08, June 08, Nov 08, May 09, April 11 http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 30 June 2008 at 6:51pm
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Nefertiti - your GP can refer you, just check with him/her. Not sure what services are available in your area, in Auck we have a Recurrent Miscarriage Clinic but I suspect it is the only one in the country now coz the Wellington one just closed. But there will be local specialists you can see publicly.
Vanillabean - hugs, hang in there, it is so hard. But the same statistics I mentioned above also indicate that in the vast majority of cases, even women who have multiple recurrent m/c do eventually go on to have a successful pregnancy. Will try and find the actual numbers for you now. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 30 June 2008 at 7:01pm
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Here you go, from http://www.miscarriagesupport.org.nz - www.miscarriagesupport.org.nz :
"Couples with no history of miscarriage or if their last pregnancy was a live birth, have an 80% - 85% chance of a successful pregnancy. This only drops by 1% if the last pregnancy was terminated Couples who have had one miscarriage still have an 80% chance. Those who have had two miscarriages drop to 72% Three previous miscarriages drops to 43% Even those who have more miscarriages will usually have a baby eventually, if they feel they can continue to try, although hormonal, structural and infectious causes continue till treated" They also have a section on recurrent miscarriage, I've found them to be a very informative site. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Shadowdance
Date Posted: 30 June 2008 at 7:49pm
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After 3 consecutive you can get referred up the hospital
If you have any problems I would contact the Waikato Miscarriage Support which we NOW have back again (thank god) and ask them questions. Waikato Hamilton Miscarriage Support Group Webhealth, 129 Tristram St, Hamilton. Ph: 0800 WEBHEALTH Email: Hilda@webhealth.co.nz unfortunately when we went through our miscarriages the Waikato Branch was no longer going but in the last 6 months they've restarted which is great 2 miscarriages doesn't mean you can't have a baby :) neither does 3 or even more... We went through 3 in a row and then went on to have twins. Stress is a huge factor in pregnancy and I believe people don't appreciate just how big a factor it is. As well as that you can do things to increase your odds :) Vitamin B6 is hugely under-rated "They also report that sufficient levels of B6, defined as levels above 30 nanomoles per litre, improved the odds of conception by 40 per cent and lowered the odds for early pregnancy loss by 30 per cent, compared to women with B6 deficiency." http://www.nutraingredients.com/news/ng.asp?id=78207-vitamin-b-pregnancy-folate - Click Here |
Posted By: Vanillabean
Date Posted: 01 July 2008 at 10:32am
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Thanks Maya and Shadowdance, that's really reassuring. ------------- 5x mc, Jan 08, June 08, Nov 08, May 09, April 11 http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 01 July 2008 at 10:37am
hugs Vanillbean. I have a friend who had at least 2 miscarriages in a row (both of them quite late...she didnt know till 12 week scan) and she is now 36 weeks pregnant. So as heart breaking as it is......keep your chin up. Perfection takes time
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Posted By: emachan
Date Posted: 05 July 2008 at 7:58pm
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don't really know much more than whats already been said, but just wanna say hang in there chickies - sending big bundles of baby dust your way! ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  DD#1 Sept 08 DD#2 Oct 09 |
Posted By: GoflyNZ
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 2:38pm
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I am currently experiencing my 2nd consecutive miscarriage and am now a bit stressed as to what might be wrong with me.
I certainly don't seem to have a problem conceiving, but just hanging on to it. I have had Grade III cells removed after a dodgy PAP smear, and have previously had a termination, but again my doctor (who is also OB/GYN) won't refer me till after my 3rd. I am nearly 40 and just don't want to go through the trauma again if it's not going to happen for me..... Hugs n thoughts to everyone else here who's having a hard time of it.... http://www.TickerFactory.com/"> 
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Posted By: Vanillabean
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 5:55pm
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That's terrible, my GP said she would refer me after 2 miscarriages because of my age and I am 35. I have self-referred to an ob/gyn privately because I have decided I don't want to wait to go through the public system.
Gofly, if you are in Wellington PM me and I'll send you the name of the ob/gyn I am going to see. ------------- 5x mc, Jan 08, June 08, Nov 08, May 09, April 11 http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: maudie23
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 7:19pm
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Hi Vanillabean,
I am sorry you have to go through at mc twice. I had 3 mc, my last I carried for 19 weeks. I have had ever test imaginable and nothing, even after having an autopsy on our daughter Anika it turns out she was perfect. Unfortuantly sometimes there is just no answer. I am going through the procedure not to get funding for the recurrent pregnancy loss clinic. Being Australia I have to prove I am not going to leave the country in 2 years. I think the government just make it so hard for people to get the right care. I hope you don't have to suffer another mc. Keep your chin up. All the best. |
Posted By: GoflyNZ
Date Posted: 15 July 2008 at 12:24pm
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Thanks Vanillabean, I am very heartened by your message.
Although I am not in Wellington but in "Dorkland", I am going to tell my Dr. this can be the case for some I know, and see again if he will refer me. Unfortunately I don't have the money to go privately. http://www.TickerFactory.com/">
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Posted By: Mikaela
Date Posted: 18 July 2008 at 7:30pm
I've had three miscarriages - two a few years before I had Alex and one earlier this year. I read somewhere a while back that the age of the father affects the rate of increases the chance of miscarriage. My DH is 39 now, and we won't be TTC again til the end of the year, so I just have to hope that we can have another baby.  ------------- http://www.bump-and-beyond.com"> 
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Posted By: Vanillabean
Date Posted: 19 July 2008 at 9:49am
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I have been doing a ton of reading about recurrent miscarriage. It seems that in general 60% of m/cs are caused by chromosomal abnormalities and if you have one m/c this is most likely to be the cause. However, the more m/cs you have n a row ithe less likely this is the cause.
Of people with recurrent m/c about 60% will be diagnosed with an underlying cause. This could be: uterine abnormalities Antiphospholid syndrome (an autoimmune problem) balanced translocation (an inherited chromosomal problem) hormonal imbalence thyroid problems. However, many doctors are starting to believe that the unexplained recurrent m/cs are due to immunological problems that either don't yet have tests to diagnose them or for which tests are not yet backed up by strong evidence so many doctors don't try them. Treatment for immunological problems include low dose aspirin, heparin and IVIG (a blood product that is administered intravenously). IVIG in particular is a controversial treatment and I wouldn't be surprised if its not available in NZ. Also, immunological problems can be present in some pregnancies and not in others with the same person. So the answer to my original question is, if you have had one miscarriage there is only a 5% chance you will have another one in a row. For some people it will be due to a fluke of bad luck but for many there will be an underlying cause and it is worthwhile trying to investigate this. Sorry for the very long post! ------------- 5x mc, Jan 08, June 08, Nov 08, May 09, April 11 http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: DonnaK
Date Posted: 07 August 2008 at 5:08pm
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Dear Miscarriage ladies... have hope. Stay strong....
I have had 10 pregnancies: 6 miscarriages, and 2 prem babies boys who have died and have 2 success stories, a 3 year old boy and a 7 month old baby girl. My 2 babies make all the heart ache and grief of my baby losses and poor pregnancy history seem far away in the past, forever remembered and never forgotten. I demanded from my GP after 3 M/C's that I get referred to a specialist and get help. The public system was fantastic, my midwife and specialist amazing. Anyone wanting help, demand answers, get tests done, seek advice, ask for support, but most importantly keep on living and enjoying your life, your partner/husband and stay positive. Your sanity is important too! Oh yes... I am the recurrent miscarriage support person for "Sands" Canterbury too. |
Posted By: Genie
Date Posted: 07 August 2008 at 6:32pm
omg I wish I had managed this instead of letting it consume me! I am on my 10th pregnancy too, had 6 miscarriages and made a heartbreaking choice to terminate at 21 1/2 weeks due to major abnormalities (the pregnancy before this one), and have 2 healthy children. Every loss hit me hard, but the last one was the one that really cost me - friendships and for a while my marriage. My marriage ended up being saveable, but friendships weren't. I didn't know anyone else who had even been through a miscarriage or anything and they didn't understand at all. I wish there was something like this site available to me then, a bit of understanding goes a long way to saving sanity! ------------- 
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