I feel a bit silly........
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Topic: I feel a bit silly........
Posted By: Nefertiti
Subject: I feel a bit silly........
Date Posted: 20 May 2008 at 6:48pm
I'm so early on, but couldn't resist buying a packet of newborn nappies today  But I justified it as they were on special lol
I have been glancing at them every time I have been at the supermarket for the past few months and today thought I had a reason to buy some! Is that silly or what! 
Are there any other ladies who have bought something not long after finding out they are pregnant? My eldest daughter (15) and I even looked in TNT today! Didn't buy anything, just looked lol  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 20 May 2008 at 6:54pm
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Not at all silly. You're stocking up
Anyway I had a cot 3 months before I got pregnant (I called it positive thinking)-------------  
 
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 20 May 2008 at 7:55pm
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We treated ourselves to 3 pk of bibs on Sunday. Almost bought newborn nappies too, because they were on special.
Positive thinking  -------------   
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Posted By: AliaDawn
Date Posted: 20 May 2008 at 8:00pm
Blah, onto sposies already?  Bad habbits! -------------  
 
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 20 May 2008 at 8:31pm
NEWBORN sposies Alia! They're not too bad I know I wouldn't have gone straight to cloth with those lovely meconium poops! 
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 20 May 2008 at 8:31pm
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For the first few weeks, YES. I have already started my cloth research... so many to chose from. -------------
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Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 20 May 2008 at 8:41pm
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I'm thinking about cloth also. But agree with emz - no way do I want cloth with the sticky meconium lol. When I had my first my baby's dad referred to it as underseal that you put on cars lol, he worked in car manufacturing at the time and its exactly what it was like! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: missy_girl
Date Posted: 20 May 2008 at 10:00pm
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Before I was pregnant with Zoe I brought heaps of maternity clothes. Pity they didn't fit after a few months. I also stocked up on cloth nappies, singlets and all-in-ones from the second I found out I was pregnant. ------------- Michelle http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: cat007
Date Posted: 20 May 2008 at 10:03pm
I started buying socks and packets of singlets as soon as I found out I was pregnant. I resisted the urge to buy something pink although it was so tempting and just as well - two more boys for us. So we are going to have to struggle with shops with tiny boys sections compared to the girls.  ------------- http://lilypie.com">  [/url http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: mummyofprinces
Date Posted: 20 May 2008 at 10:24pm
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I just bought a fuzzi!!! I really just wanted to check them out properly.
Cat007, 3 boys under 2... and the title for supermum goes to..... -------------
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Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 7:35am
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Yip your pretty brave Cat007!
melnel, whats a fuzzi? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: minik8e
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 7:47am
| A FuzziBunz - cloth nappy. They're soooooo cute!! |
Posted By: nicolaann
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 8:29am
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OT... Congratulations Nefertiti!!!! Just caught up on your big news!
YAY for the Fuzzi purchase!! What colour did you get?? ------------- Nicky, Mum to Alex (5) & Sophie (3) http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 8:56am
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Thanks nicolaann! Will have to go search these fuzzi's now lol ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Snickerdoodle
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 9:39am
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I think it's smart to buy these things during the pregnancy.
Especially if you're both working full time when you can generally afford to purchase these things. We bought nappies, singlets, socks, blankets, sheets etc. The bigger ticket items we waited to buy until we were confident the pregnancy would go full term, but I don't see anything wrong with stocking up now. Have fun ------------- 
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Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 10:20am
We arent preg yet (or r we??) but we have bought stuff because we *know* we will be pregnant again, even after two m/c! Plus I am thinking that there is so much too get, all new things for baby and a bed for Neosha and a nice new set of drawers and I want to get a touchwood cot this time round so I think its generally easier to start purchasing stuff straight away! and its really fun too I have never been able to resist the newborn nappies though I bought them straight away with Neosha.. but looking at cloth this time around as the budget wont allow for disposables  ------------- https://secure.fertilityfriend.com/home/30c4ec/" rel="nofollow">  Mrs Te Kani ❤️ Neosha 26/5/2007 |
Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 10:51am
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Has anyone actually worked out the price difference between disposables and cloth. (I am not talking about environment issues here).
I went into that fuzzi website and $40 for one nappy it a lot. And especially seeming at its one size too! So I worked it out, say you buy 10 small nappies - yes, constantly washing and drying! Well that would be $400. $400 for one size.....Well, yesterday I bought Treasures newborn packet of 24 for $7.99. So based on this for $400 you'd get 50 packets, that 1200 nappies...and say you change baby 6 times a day (yes i know this can change!) well that would give you 200 days..which is 6 months...which wouldn't be a newborn anymore! So for me, I think thats is cheaper... God I'm gonna be embarrased if I worked that one out wrong! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:05am
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I was just there looking at the exact same thing... That and I wouldnt put one on a newborn now because they look bigger than the kids wearing them I was thinking of starting to use them once they are in the bigger size as well. ------------- https://secure.fertilityfriend.com/home/30c4ec/" rel="nofollow"> Mrs Te Kani ❤️ Neosha 26/5/2007 |
Posted By: AliaDawn
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:13am
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Fuzzis are $31 in nz stores... so I don't know where you got $40 from! You would need more than 10 nappies for a newborn, more like 20, but the onsell price can be alot esp if only used for one bub in small size (fuzzis are esp good as they are pretty famous) You'd be looking at 75% of the rrp back if you sold them on TM after you'd finished with them. -------------
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Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:28am
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So for a newborn the outlay would be roughly $620 for 20 NB sized nappies and out of that it is possible to make $465 back. Sounds good but I havent really thought about other costs as well.
Eco powder to wash them Hot water usage Dryer use (we arent allowed a washing line here so sometimes they would need to dry in the drier which isnt ideal for cloth) Power bills go up from those Time and effort on top of a newborn and toddler They are really cute and great for baby but I dont know... still thinking for me. I guess everyone to their own ------------- https://secure.fertilityfriend.com/home/30c4ec/" rel="nofollow"> Mrs Te Kani ❤️ Neosha 26/5/2007 |
Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:32am
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I got the price from honeychild.co.nz and the prices ranged from 36.95 to 41.95..discount price.
I don't know about others, but speaking for myself, I would not buy second hand nappies. No matter if they were only used for one child. A bit prude maybe, but thats my preference. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:36am
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Gosh I was just thinking.....come back and ask me if I feel the same in another 9 months!
LOL...I have had 3 kids, and I do know that many mums to be say 'I'll never do that'....and quite often do lol. But really, I'm not that keen on 2nd hand nappies. But just had a look on TM and some are still in very good condition. I guess you just got to trust the person you get them off aye. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:39am
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It really bugs me when people start making negative calls on people’s choices – including whether or not to use cloth nappies. Personally, I am going to use a mixture, but there are a lot of people who are quite uneducated when it comes to the environmental impact and focus only on the fact that disposables don’t biodegrade. There are some other factors to consider – particularly in parts of the country that are suffering with drought.
This is a comment by the NZ Consumer’s Institute about the choice: Environmental impact: Both cloth and disposable nappies have environmental costs. Disposable nappies create waste in landfills. Washing cloth nappies uses water and electricity. You can keep electricity use down by washing in cold water and drying the nappies on the line. But when there's a water shortage disposable nappies are the better option. Please, can the decision to use cloth or disposable, or to breast feed or not, not be subject to the little comments that seem to pop up from time to time? |
Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:41am
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Me neither I wouldnt buy second hand but was only interested in what I could sell them for... doesnt look like they r doing so well on trademe at the moment. Mayby because there r so many places you can get them now?
For me I was looking at baby cheeks but after reading about wetting through and stuff like that im going to stick to my huggies, they have never failed me and will have to buy them as soon as we find out! Oh forgot to say Nefertiti CONGRATS!! 
EDIT: None of us were being negative or anything we are trying to decide whether or not its worth it to us to buy them. In the end thats all that matters right But u r right some we shouldnt push personal preferance onto others. Unless I missed something here lol
Oh those prefolds looked interesting not sure about the absorbency??? ------------- https://secure.fertilityfriend.com/home/30c4ec/" rel="nofollow"> Mrs Te Kani ❤️ Neosha 26/5/2007 |
Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:42am
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Actually, here is the whole summary, for those interested in finding out more about cloth vs disposable:
Washable nappies Cloth nappies are becoming increasingly popular. Of the members who took part in our trial, 20 would normally use cloth nappies - though all but three kept them for daytime use only. The original nappy - a cloth square - is cheap, dries quickly and fits all sizes. But it's bulky, doesn't fit well and is a hassle to put on and take off. Pre-folded nappies are square with an extra padded section in the middle. They can be folded into a pad shape and used inside a fitting outer shell. The best (and most expensive) cloth nappies are constructed like a fitted disposable nappy, with elastic at the waist and legs, and Velcro fasteners. Some have a waterproof outer layer; with others you buy a separate waterproof wrap to contain leaks. However, the more efficiently they keep moisture in, the damper your baby's skin will be and the greater the likelihood of rashes. You can buy disposable/flushable liners that make it easier to dispose of solids. Shaped nappies aren't cheap, and you have to buy a new set as your baby moves into a larger size. However, you can use your nappies again for successive children. Because of their padding, these nappies take a long time to dry. We asked a member to test a brand of shaped cloth nappies along with four disposable brands. The cloth nappies cost $105 for a set of five. They performed as well as the disposables - they had no leaks but kept Campbell slightly damp as they had a waterproof outer covering. However, having the outer as part of the nappy ensured a very good fit. Cloth versus disposable Here's how the two types compare: Convenience No contest - disposable nappies are much more convenient, especially when you're away from home. As well, day care centres generally require children to wear disposable nappies. Cost In the long term, cloth nappies are cheaper although the better ones have a high up-front cost (a set of shaped nappies could be a good gift idea). If you want to use only cloth nappies, you'll need 20 to 30 nappies and possibly accessories such as liners and overnaps. Environmental impact Both cloth and disposable nappies have environmental costs. Disposable nappies create waste in landfills. Washing cloth nappies uses water and electricity. You can keep electricity use down by washing in cold water and drying the nappies on the line. But when there's a water shortage disposable nappies are the better option. |
Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:52am
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Totally off the subject but has anyone noticed that since the HUGGIES promotion they havent been on sale. Very annoying lol ------------- https://secure.fertilityfriend.com/home/30c4ec/" rel="nofollow"> Mrs Te Kani ❤️ Neosha 26/5/2007 |
Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:00pm
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Thanks for tha kiwilaurie, but as NeoshasMummy said, we were only discussing the price and that was it! But your input on comparisions is appreciated :)
Thanks for the congrats NeoshasMummy...you'll be joining us soon! I know it!! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:03pm
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Oh, the myths that surround the cost of cloth usage, lol. And let's start by saying I use both. I primarily cloth during the day because I like it more, but I find sposies work better for me at night.
Warning though. Cloth nappies are addictive and once you start using them you realise they're a heap more fun than disposables. And the cost factor is just an added bonus. 1. The majority of the time you wash your nappies in cold water. You only need hot water occasionally. 2. I probably use less laundry powder now than I did before Lucy was born. The reason is that most nappy washes actually recommend you use less powder and so I'm doing that with most of my washing these days. 3. I'm pretty sure Honeychild don't sell Fuzzibunz anymore. They sell their own brand, and personally I think their own brand is super expensive. The new Fuzzibunz cost $31 through Mother's Instinct. My favourite nappies cost me $22.50 once I've purchased the insert. 4. Many day care centres allow cloth these days. Here's a great review to clear up the myths surround cloth. http://wigglebums.tripod.com/myth.html ------------- Robyn www.scarecrowfarm.co.nz |
Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:07pm
Fingers crossed for tomorow
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Nefertiti wrote:Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:09pm
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I personally wouldn't use second hand nappies (with the exception of a couple I bought for baby from a friend coz I know her and trust that they've been well looked after) but I certainly intend to onsell my nappies - if other people want to buy them second hand then it's all good for me!
And the time factor isn't a biggie, trust me - I have twins in cloth and I work and I still manage to keep on top of the washing (most of the time!) I have no environmental reasons for using cloth (I know, I know, I'm a bad person ]), for me it's purely coz it's cheaper.
Back to the original question tho - yes, I did buy things for my babies when I first found out I was pregnant. With Maya I bought a little yellow stretch and gro, with the gremlins I bought a little PP gown (back when I was blissfully ignorant to the fact that there were two of them!) and this bub I bought a little suit from PP. I also bought a wee gown for the baby we lost which is in her memory box with her scan pictures. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:10pm
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I don't actually agree with a lot of that kiwilaurie as I have used both old and new cloth and the new cloth dries a lot faster on a clothes horse (and as someone said they don't have a washing line). But I think they are just talking about cloth.
Ladies this is what we did and it seemed to work cost-wise: -Bought newborn nappies for the early days, used huggies first as they're a smaller fit, then treasures (not ultra - they're cr*p on boys) -Bought one BumGenius OSFA (3.5-16.5kg) to trial after Jack was born (didnt want to buy them then have to sell them if they didn't work well). Loved it, just padded it more for night-time. He lasts better in those than in huggies disposables daytime and night-time. I bought 15 all up and it cost me about $450. That should last through to TT. I use Johnson liners ($9 for a box) which I cut in half so they last 2 months (5nappies a day). They're disposable. I also bought some cheeky wipes for $40 so we don't use disposable wipes unless we're out. The average cost of disposables is $2800 up till TT which we couldn't justify hence why we're on cloth. I don't care about the environmental impact actually!
The other thing I had to do with sposies was pay for extra rubbish bags so that's an added cost plus they stink. But its definitely personal choice! |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:12pm
| Oh the other thing I forgot to mention is that you can put most cloth naps in the drier on a cooler cycle which is great for me as I never hang them on the line anymore - too blimmin cold! |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:31pm
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We are using cloth mostly, I think I'll use sposies at night, easier when Im half asleep trying to change a icky nappy lol
My mum talked us into using cloth cos its a lot cheaper and she said she loved seeing a line of freshly cleaned cloth nappies on the line, PLUS the sun is natural bug/germ killer 
*Traditonal cloth that is. We cant afford the other sorts of cloth nappies. ------------- |
Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:43pm
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Go you Sheza!!! I admire women who choose to use cloth I really do!
My In laws tried to talk me into traditional cloth when I was preg..... yeah right, im just not that type of gal, I still dry reach while changing neoshas nappy sometimes I really dont know why and cleaning them would be harder for me I guess but I was thinking about MCN because it could work out cheaper on the wallet, but on my sanity?? not so sure lol. I dont know I guess there is *alot* of time to decide but im definately keeping Neosha in huggies. ------------- https://secure.fertilityfriend.com/home/30c4ec/" rel="nofollow"> Mrs Te Kani ❤️ Neosha 26/5/2007 |
Posted By: cat007
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:49pm
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I bought the traditional flat cloth nappies, with good intentions to use during the day and disposables at night with my first. But I never got around to using the cloth - they just never seemed to catch anything and every time my boy wet - they just leaked everywhere.
I would have loved to try the shaped cloth nappies but we could never come up with the money all at once. It was just easier to spend $20 a week with our groceries on disposables. Now that we have twins on the way - I have thought about using cloth again but have had people buy us so many packets of disposables that I will start off using them first. Also I was a bit confused about prem babies and whether the cloth nappies fitted them too. It will be a big watch this space for us....... ------------- http://lilypie.com"> [/url http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:55pm
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Cat, if I were you, I'd buy a cloth nappy every week. If you're uncertain I'd even go so far as to bypass the small size, or get one size fits all (Bumgenius is a good brand). Since you have been given sposies I'd probably use those up first, and use that time to continue buying cloth.
I could imagine sposies would get really expensive very quickly with twins. Neoshasmummy, you could always try just buying one nappy and seeing what you think. Though it's kind of hard to judge with one nappy since the amount of washing is disproportionate to the number of nappies you own. I bet once you buy your first Itti Bitti D'Lish, you'll like it so much you'll keep using them. Nefertiti, I don't blame you for using sposies on that horrible sticky meconium. I know plenty of mums use cloth during those first days, but I'm not one of them. ------------- Robyn www.scarecrowfarm.co.nz |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 1:56pm
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I'll be using the hospitals cloth nappies, so they can clean the yucky first poo's off them! lol My midwife said that they boil all the nappies and clothes at the hospital to steralise them
She said not to use my own nappies and clothes as they will get stained etc ------------- |
Posted By: KiwiL
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 2:46pm
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Neferiti, I was more taken aback by the comment right at the beginning that was directed at you - that you were getting into bad habits by buying disposables!! I personally found it kind of rude, but I might just be overly sensitive!!!
I am also going to use cloth during the day, and also at night when bubs is a bit bigger - but just wanted to point out that there is an environmental cost to cloth too. Personally, I just love the feeling of a soft baby bottom rather than a rustly platic one. Not meaning to offend anyone myself. |
Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 3:57pm
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Oh sheza where do they still use cloths at hospitals?? I was given sposies and thought they did that everywhere. Its funny ur midwife said that cause mine said "bring ur own clothes unless u want ur baby lookin like a christmas tree in the crazy hospital supply" lol but MIL came and took our clothes and washed them for us while I was in hosp. anyway
Kiwilaurie- I now see what you ment was a lil off. maybe it wasnt intended the way it sounded?
Hay im digging Oh babies new look   ------------- https://secure.fertilityfriend.com/home/30c4ec/" rel="nofollow"> Mrs Te Kani ❤️ Neosha 26/5/2007 |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 4:16pm
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Pukekohe Hospital uses cloth. My midwife is saving me from having to take home a heap of clothes with yucky poo's on them
She said the first poo is like tar and stains so she said its best to use the hospital baby gowns with a woolen jumper, botties, mittens and beanie(of our own). Im quite happy to do that, then I wont wreck our cute clothes for him. ------------- |
Posted By: NeoshasMummy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 4:20pm
Yeah it is a good idea! I didnt see that first poo  Well I saw her come out covered in it then nothing after that! I think DP dealt with it. Wow u havent got far to go now ------------- https://secure.fertilityfriend.com/home/30c4ec/" rel="nofollow"> Mrs Te Kani ❤️ Neosha 26/5/2007 |
Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 4:41pm
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Waitakare hospital is using cloth at the moment and sending mums home with some cloth nappy samples.
I actually don't mind the newborn gowns at the hospital. Sure they're plain and not particularly exciting, but they just seem to add to the 'newborn' look. One of my best newborn piccies was of Lucy in a little white gown and it looked really good in the photo. ------------- Robyn www.scarecrowfarm.co.nz |
Posted By: Shezamumof3
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 4:58pm
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Yeah I dont mind using the hospital ones Nice and easy! ------------- |
Posted By: Helen21
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 5:04pm
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I used cloth for my first daughter during the newborn stage but she was born in winter so I found it was really costly getting them dry not to mention all the work that goes into all the washing and folding. It just wasn't for me. So I just used disposables from then on and I haven't looked back!
Back to the original question, we have already just bought a bassinet, pram and a frontpack last weekend ! And we haven't even seen a heartbeat yet!! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Nefertiti
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 7:07pm
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lol i didnt even notice the comment! I just went and looked back and saw it. I think I by passed it because I don't think having my 4th baby is 'onto sposies already' haha
Good for you Helen! I'm already looking at basinnets, but won't get one for a few months yet ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 7:39pm
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Alkd hospital use cloth too, they have sposies as well but you have a choice of both.
------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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