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Topic: hmmm...
Posted By: ElfsMum
Subject: hmmm...
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 9:18am
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this article i saw was....interesting!!!!?
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/071128/3/2ri7.html ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 9:21am
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 9:49am
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Yeah I just read it before coming on here. It's quite concerning really, as they're right, the ones who may need the most help are also the ones that could possibly need the $100 voucher the most.
Kawwww, I just hope that Chch doesn't decide to do this for both of our sakes
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 9:50am
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yeah although it does say they dont do it for first time mums..eventually i will be a second time mum....we went for the tour of the birthing suites last night..all seems a bit more real now!! ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 9:56am
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How did you find it? Did the massive digital clock freak you out? I was concerned as to why someone delivery my baby would need such a big clock to tell the time! Hehe, anyway, when we went to the birthing pool suite right down the end there was a lady giving birth right next door. It scared lots of people but DH and I thought she did remarkably well.
The only thing I worry about is the temperature of the rooms. There is one room though that I spent a day in back in September that is cooler but I don't think you can request it! 
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 9:59am
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Yeah I saw that - I think it's terrible! It makes me upset just thinking about it. No two births are the same - what's to say a second time mum who did fine the first time around won't have real problems this time? (emotionally or otherwise). For a start they'll have another child at home to look after. -------------  
 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 9:59am
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did you go last night? they went to the pool and we went home cause our lady is nice but always running late and it was already 845pm....i like the big clocks..lol:) not that I'll be able to see them! i never really questioned why they are so big..i guess the docs need to see time if they are working on the baby.. ? yeah one lady pointed out how hot it was...its for the baby she said but what about after the bubs is born if you stay there..even i found it hot..but i find the class hot too and i normally dont feel the heat at all. ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Tiff
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 10:07am
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Interesting article - although I have to say that is already what is happening in Chch Womans (without the voucher!) if you think about it. That's what all the transfering out business is about really, at least here we have places to transfer to other than home (dunno what it's like in Wellington). ------------- http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 10:08am
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yes but they are saying they are sending you home..not transferring you:( ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 10:13am
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We went 1 or 2 weeks ago I think (damn baby brain! Can't even remember!) The heat gets to me in the AN room too.
I think 2nd time mums need as much care as first time mums. Yeah they've done it before, but when they go home they'll have another (or more than one) wee one running around disrupting the bonding time that we've all been told is so vital. I just can't get over that they'd offer vouchers, it really is like bribery. I can't believe some of the stuff that the govt funds these days (ie. gender reassignment, flavoured condoms) yet important things like giving a mother and newborn a day or two to bond without distraction are being overlooked. Anyway, enough of a grumble 
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Posted By: Bumble
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 10:18am
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I'd take it as i would discharge myself early.
I found the hosp useless with Ethan and wished I was at home anyways..... ------------- formerly known as "Bee" Ethan ~ March 2003 Big 6 year old school boy! Micah ~ Aug 2008 ~ Smiley pants who loves telephones! |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 10:25am
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emz yeah i agree... bee how come..what didnt they do? ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 10:25am
There is no where to transfer to in Wellington unfortunately  Well there's Keneperu(sp) but very limited spaces there.
Already the midwives strongly encourage home births. I'm having twins and if combined with a c-sect I want a single room! So the more that that take the voucher and leave the better for me 
To be honest I find the prospect of being in a shared ward with 2 babies and no hubbie more scary than going home to where my DH and Mum will be sleeping peacefully. |
Tiff wrote:Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 12:02pm
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yeah sometimes it seems better to go home.. but i think with me first time breastfeeding etc hopefully will get a little help in the couple of days at hospital.. ? another thing i didn't really think about (possibility of going home straight away) but sad if you don't have the choice:( ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Bubbaloo
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 12:16pm
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I saw this on Breakfast this morning and thought it was totally ridiculous I know next time I have a baby I'm going to want to stay at the hospital for the same amount of time as I did with James. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  Was danni-chick Mum to James My Angel 28/07/08 |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 12:17pm
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how long was that ? ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Tiff
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 12:21pm
Yeah thats where we are lucky in Chch to have places to transfer to as that looks to be the problem 'cos as Tishy says there isn't anywhere to transfer to in Wellington. But I agree it is bribary and it does suck. And yes I don't think it maters how many children you do or don't have the same level of care should be offered to everyone. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Bubbaloo
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 12:24pm
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I was there for 2 nights and 2 days after I transferred to St Georges. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> Was danni-chick Mum to James My Angel 28/07/08 |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 12:24pm
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well said ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: MumsyMoo
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 1:11pm
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Crap... Fingers crossed that's not me then. I'm due Jan and have to birth at Wellington.
Yes I'm a first time mum, but by the sounds of things, if there's no 'clinical' reason as to why you should be there, then you're outskies... I'm meant to be getting transferred to Kenepuru, but obviously there's no guarantees -------------  My wee girl is the love and light of my life!
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 1:12pm
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:( fingers crossed for you..its so weird that there isn't really anywhere to transfer to..it's not a hick town it's Wellington!!:( ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: MumsyMoo
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 1:15pm
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Way to add to the stresses of first-time motherhood!
Jeez. The last thing I'm going to feel like doing is arguing tooth and nail with hospital staff having to justify WHY I should be entitled to stay. That's bull. ------------- My wee girl is the love and light of my life!
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 1:16pm
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It's not for first time mums apparently - only 2nd time or more and only those that have had a straightforward vaginal delivery.
Not that I'm condoning it - but at least you won't have to worry Serenity. -------------
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Posted By: tishy
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 1:27pm
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Nope not for first time mums as Bobbie and the NZ herald website say anyway.
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 2:23pm
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yes i just read that part so you dont have to worry so for first time mums its better than chch where you are out within three hours unless there is something that means you need to stay(c-section etc) i hate the idea that i have to transfer so quickly:( but at least we have a place to go i guess.. ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: .Mel
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 3:24pm
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Well they've scrapped the idea because of the uproar it caused.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10479111 - Article ------------- Mr Mellow (16) Miss Attitude (8) Destructa Kid (3) 
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 4:19pm
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And where a woman wanted to stay in hospital for social reasons, despite being clinically ready to go home, staff would use their "best endeavours" to accommodate them.
what does stay in for social reasons mean? ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Danash
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 8:56pm
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I think it's pretty poor, why not put the $100 or whatever it is into incentives for more midwives or towards more beds.... |
Posted By: Tiff
Date Posted: 30 November 2007 at 1:14pm
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Good point Verena! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: LittleBug
Date Posted: 30 November 2007 at 2:57pm
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True... I bet if the midwives got an extra hundy for every person they looked after, there wouldn't be such a shortage Re: the big clocks in the delivery suites... I'm kinda glad cos I bet I won't feel like wearing my glasses or contacts when I'm in labour and I'm blind as a bat! Lol ------------- Chloe (4 years) and Oliver (3 years). |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 30 November 2007 at 3:47pm
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My Mum was saying i wouldnt be able to wear contacts(they have been uncomfy since about week 10 anyway ..in case i have to have an emergency c section..suppose that makes sense.. yeah i cant see anything either.. so they have to put bubs pretty close to my face to see him:) ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 30 November 2007 at 4:32pm
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bella.. sorry to threadjack(though it is my thread so why not) :) do you have problems with people calling Ella-Grace just Ella..or do you not mind if they don't use the whole name..I had problems(always have but especially) at the Gd test as they kept writing Kerri and my name is Kerri-Anne.. and it matters to me.. !:) my parents just call me KA and they thought I'd go by Kerri but i don't so i spell the whole name every day and explain it's not two names it's one:) ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |