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    Posted: 19 March 2011 at 11:46am
1) which is the best bank to go for? (Cute free piggy bank a bonus)

2) i want to open an account in his name as members of both sides of the family have given monetary gifts to 'start him off'. His father and i are seperated and so can't really keep the money in one of our accounts. Some relatives have gifted large sums.

3)the money will be added to occasionally by his father and I with the idea he can use it as an adult for uni, a car, house deposit - big things. But how do you control that when hes older and uses his bank account for part time jobs and pocket money? Can he open a second bank account with another bank for his wages and spending so he can't spend his saved money or will the fact he has a bank account in his name with large amount of cash in it work against him?

I don't understand finances at all!
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Hi Bowie, its a great idea to start an account for your wee man!
i work for abank so i might be a bit biased on which bank to go with but i have to say the idea of the free PIGGIE is a great idea hehehe
Kids account are normally free and will earn interest as well, or for now you can just go with a savings account if the interest rate is higher and then later on change it to a transactional account.
As to how to control the account later, i would say you could then have one savings with the larger sum of money in and have a everyday account too, this is good to teach children the value of money as in my opinion they dont teach them this enough at school!
i dont think the fact he has savings will go against your son at all!!!

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We opened a bank account at ANZ (his fathers bank). I personally have all my accounts with ASB but only know how it works for children at ANZ.
We were only able to have either an account in my name with him as the trustee - that meant that I could make withdrawals as needed etc to buy things for him...or the other option was an account in his name but we can't make withdrawals and he gets operating control of the account when he turns 7yrs...but being a minor we still have some control.
We went with a savings account in his name because we don't intend to be making any withdrawals from his account, the intention is that it is his money for when he's older; first car, deposit on a house, that kind of thing. If he gets a money gift we put it in his account and we also make a deposit every fortnight to ensure that he gets the bonus interest.
I'm not sure how it works with other banks as I've only ever done it through ANZ...and we got nothing cute...in fact, I was a bit disappointed!

ETA: When he gets older there will be an expectation that this account remains a savings account and we/he open another account for day-to-day things like wages etc.

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We went for kiwibank for our kids, even though we don't bank with them.
Went with them as they are just easier to get to, having branches with the post shop.
All kids accounts seem pretty similar, in my opinion.

I would also totally recommend you sign your baby up for kiwisaver. Even if you don't contribute to it, they will still get the $1000 government kick-start.
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^^ Thats another reason i'm going to open his account.

I guess the only way it would go against him is if he were applying for a loan or somesuch and the fact he has 'assets' in his name would go against him.

Mealz thats what i'm thinking but worry that a 16yo boy might be tempted to spend "his" savings on a party or something equally stupid and wouldnt need my permission to do so - it IS his money but we are saving it for those big first spends.

I do *really* want a piggie
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we have four kids accounts with Kiwibank, it's linked to mine, so I can view, but can't touch them. and we just AP once a week into them. I think they were all roughly the same bank wise.

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Would an elephant do you? ASB has some cute elephants!
But yeah, do sign him up for kiwisaver now. It's a great idea.

Westpac do helicopters too. I've seen an ANZ rabbit (but it was an Asian banking, year of the rabbit one). Obviously BNZ do pigs.

Seriously, it is a good idea to open an account for your boy - we opened one for ours and just pop $5 a week in there, and then we'll put in any larger amounts that he gets given as gifts. We opened it in his name, but it's on our internet banking. We did a savings account for the interest, and yes, the expectation will be that he opens some other sort of account for spending! Much much later. Most banks do similarly structured accounts, so have a look online and see what you think.
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Remember to get an IRD number for your son if you don't already have one, something to do with tax that's charged, easy to get one as you can apply through your local NZ Post branch.
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I have ASB ones for ours. They are in mine and their names. I figure they dont really need to know about them till they are much older. I have full access to them at the moment so I guess if I felt they were going to get abused later I can always pull that money out and make it inaccessible ..mean mummy!
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We are all with ASB now but growing up I had a Westpac Savings (my mum started) an ANZ Savings (school account one) and several term deposits with PSIS (grandparents) I then opened a BNZ bank account when I got my first job... I then withdrew my savings from ANZ and Westpac and moved them into a new term deposit with PSIS. I WAS going to go with TSB but the lady was a b!tch and said 'You need 5k to open a term deposit here and judging by your age I doubt you have than' so I told her where to go!

Lily's bank account ATM is in her name but joint with DPs bank account and my bank account (as we're unmarried we don't have a joint account). We both have access to it and can transfer money to and from.

I had a large sum of Money by the time I started working and it never affected anything although study wise it did - Student Loan, allowance etc. But he will be able to have a bank account with who ever he wants. If you wanted you could just do it in your name and when you feel he has earned it you could transfer it over to him (or in parts). Mine was joint with my grandfather name (PSIS) and until I was 18 I always needed his signature to authorise withdrawals and when I turned 18 it was all transferred to my name so I didn't need his approval for withdrawals but he still received bank statements.

Also just read above about the ANZ account and that account I didn't need anyone's permission to take money from... Which I regret now tbh!
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Mine are with ASB as I have an account with them. It is attached to my account but in each of their names, and I can move the money online but not get it out at ATMs I don't think. They get bank stantements seperately. They both got elephant piggy banks.
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We set Jacksons account up with ASB. It is in his name and Dh and I are just the Beneficiary for him until we sign it over to him when he is older. We are also with ASB so his account is linked to ours and I/we can control it and put savings into it as we like.

We havent done Kiwisaver for him just yet but we will when we get home. Retirement is never too soon to start thinking about and contributing to.

Hehe Im not too sure what the statements look like as we have statement stoppers at the moment being in Aus. But will be cool to see them when we get home

ETA we also opened a savings account for him as well, so he has a transaction account and a savings account. The savings account ears interest which is great and the transaction account has NO fees which is even better!

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If you are worried he'll spend all his savings you can always put some of it into a term deposit to make it more difficult to withdrawal.

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We have a rabodirect account for DS. You don't get a piggy bank or anything, but you do get a digipass thing that generates codes to access the account :)

We signed up when they were giving away free money so that was a bit of a bonus.

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I just opened a bank account and kiwisaver for both kids at Westpac, just because we have our accounts there so it was easiest. Had to get their IRD numbers first, which I found more of a hassle. The helicopter piggy banks are cute, my mother also somehow got the kids a BNZ piggy and an ASB elephant, so we have a wee stash of piggy banks here!


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I have to do kiwisaver for the kids & Westpac are the only ones I know of that will wipe the fees till they are 18 if you make a deposit yearly. So better get that up & going for them.
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I also have an ASB account for Alia, Poor Cooper gets zilch at the moment. It's in both of our names & I've got our save the change going in there, so I'm putting money in there daily, been doing it about a month or so & there is easily $80 in there already as we use eftpos a lot lol
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Something to bear in mind but not too important at this stage is that school banking is done with ASB.

You could at some stage use the money to buy Bonus Bonds. You don't earn interest but they have a monthly draw which can earn you extra money, especially if you buy in lump sums, my Grandmother used to win something every month. Bonus Bonds are through ANZ I think.

Or could you put all the money into Kiwisaver on a low risk plan. I think (don't quote me as I don't have Kiwisaver!) that you can make a withdrawl from it for a house deposit can't you? That way it would be 'safe' from him spending it on 'nothing' later on and would be kept separate from any wages he gets later on
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Linzy we do bonus bonds, DH has set it up so I xfer some money into them fortnightly.

Kiwisaver, after 3 or 5yrs (u choose) you can use it to buy your first home, & first home means not a rental property so if you have had a home & sold it but want to buy one again & it is your only home you qualify. Depends on where you are to how much you get so in Auckland you would have to live in a cheaper area but that's ok if it gets you into a house. I think it is a great intensive. That was one reason we are going to do it for our boys then they may get a home earlier if they work & save & want one.

We don't have accounts for the boys yet, none have had large cash pressents for them, & we buy all they need. I think you get savings accounts with westpac for the kids when you do kiwisaver for them so will add a few $ in them & yearly kiwisaver payments.

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We opened a savings account for DD with ANZ (our bank) but have kept it in our name. Was going to get it in her name, but 15 is way too young to get full access to what will be in excess of $40k. We'll sign it over to her at an age yet to be determined when we're confident she's financially literate.

As for kiwisaver, I don't trust the government enough. It may be ok while the same government is in, but they're in and out so often and are bound to keep changing the rules (especially around contributions holidays). I also feel uneasy making a decision like that for DD that will affect her future financial options - once you're in you're in for life. She can always sign up when she gets her first job if she wants.


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