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oneplusone
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Topic: Sleeping progress - or not! Posted: 10 March 2008 at 2:50pm |
Another topic from me today. Myself and my neighbour both have three month olds. We thought we were gradually progressing to a full nights sleep as they started sleeping four hour stretches, then five, then six. However that all seemed to stop a few weeks ago and in my case, J has gone back to waking every three hours at night, grrrrr. He was unsettled from his second lot of jabs and due for a growth spurt but surely this should only last a couple of days, not weeks. Other mothers in our coffee group are getting 7-10 hours, yet we seem nowhere near it. Any thoughts?
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MonicaMouse
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Posted: 10 March 2008 at 4:11pm |
One thing I need to keep reminding myself is every baby is different, and I need to stop comparing Blair to others his age. As a first time Mum, I find it really easy to see what another bub the same age is doing and wondering why B isn't doing that, or when he will - rolling is a prime example. I figure that these things will come with time, and will happen when they do. B was sleeping thru - ok it was only for about 3 weeks and has started to wake again, and sometimes it's once a night, sometimes twice, sometimes he's mega hungry, sometimes he's not.  It's not really an answer, but letting you know you're not alone
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Posted: 10 March 2008 at 4:36pm |
MM is right. Each child is different. I've learnt that this time around with Cooper. Conor and Nyah both slept thru from 6 weeks. Cooper is still waking between 1 - 2 times a night.
Remember... be is still ONLY 3 months. I also just wanted to say that it is VERY common for a even a 5/6 month old to be having 2 feeds in the night.. dropping down to 1 feed around the 9 month mark.. so I suggest if you get two decent feeds into him at night straight away.. then everyone can get back to sleep. He is still just so young and this is VERY normal. Try not to compare with your friends babies. Each baby is different.
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Posted: 10 March 2008 at 5:35pm |
Not to depress you but Jack is 10 1/2 mths and if he only wakes twice in the night then it's a brilliant night for us! Everyone in our coffee group seems to be sleeping through and I find that hard sometimes, especially when they have a little grumble about their baby waking once during the night! You will possibly find that sleeping patterns continue to change as different milestones occur such as starting solids, crawling, teething etc. Apparently babies practice things in their REM sleep so at the moment Jack practices his crawling which is I think one of the things that wakes him at the moment.
Sorry I am not giving you a very positive answer!
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Posted: 10 March 2008 at 6:17pm |
Tom did this too. I thought we were heading to sleep throughs, in fact he even did it once. The next day he reverted to 2-3 hourly wake ups and that continued for 6weeks!!!! Then he started sleeping through and we have been happier ever since.
So what changed? hard to say but at the same time I introduced some formula and increased his solids (he was 4 months when it all turned to custard and 5.5 when it settled down). Whether the increased food helped or did he just prefer being 5.5 months old or was the weather a bit cooler.....who knows but it seems quite common.
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Posted: 12 March 2008 at 11:15am |
Thanks everyone, all valid comments. You're right, he is only young (although it seems a lifetime ago since I gave birth) and I should be patient. I don't compare anything else he does with other babies but I guess night sleeps impact directly on me. I'd be more than happy with J waking a couple of times a night, but four times every night is beginning to take it's toll. He also seems to be feeding longer too - 20 to 30 minutes each time, whereas in early days he only needed 5-10 minutes at most. I wonder if there's something up with my milk?
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Posted: 12 March 2008 at 3:03pm |
huge hugs to you! as the others have said, all babies are different. However I think he's getting to an age where habits are probably adding to his wakeups. I would still probably do one feed a night at that time... (my boy was bottle fed) breast fed babies may need more.
I have a copy of an e-book that may be useful for some ideas/strategies.. pm me with your email address if you would like me to email you a copy
totally understand about sleep deprivation it is NO FUN.. my first boy was a terrible sleeper, but I've had some really good routines with number two and he's a DREAM sleeper.. I think alot of my problems with number one were habit formed related to issues with his reflux. but who knows!! I'm just very thankful this time around! (and I probably know more and am a wee bit tougher!
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Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:11am |
What is his feeding like during the day? Babies need to get a certain amount of calories in each day, and if they dont get them during the day they will get them at night. How many hours apart is he feeding? Perhaps make the gaps slightly smaller and slip in at least one more feed.
ALternatively, is he snacking during the day? You know what I mean - feeding frequently but never taking in a full fed? If so, then get tough and have at least a 2 hour gap between feeds (from start to start). I personally found 3 hours worked best with LIly during the day and yes, I woke her to achieve that for most feeds (the dream feed I would let run to about 4 hours if I was staying up). Lily only ever woke once for a feed during the night - around 3 am, becasue I could be sure that she was taking enough full feeds during the day.
Thirdly, are you cluster feeding in the early evening? Going from the feeding schedule to basically side to side swapping any time from around 5pm (annoying I know as it is dinner time bt hey, sleep is even more important!) can fill them up with high calorie BM and get them sleeping longer stretches.
Finally remember that only 25% of babies sleep through at 3 months, and a sleep through is anything from 6 hours. So your bubba is normal - sadly - but the above things can help you get the extra sleep you need.
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Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:46am |
miss has pretty much said all I'd think of saying.. except the other thing that helped us was having a dream feed..
Getting him up at 10pmish, in the dark and getting an extrea feed in then and put him straight back down. This could be bottle and if you have a partner/hubby etc then you could get him to do this while you get a couple of extra hours of sleep. We do this even now if I know Daniel hasn't had enough food during the day (usually because of nasty teething) and it gives them a top up for the night.
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Posted: 13 March 2008 at 11:41am |
My 1 year old slept through form about 4 weeks, till she got to about 5 months, and now I get up to her twice, soemtimes more a night, and have done since the 5 months mark. There is alot of delevopmental stuff going on when they are so little like your wee man, and just when you think you have got it sussed, the go and change the rules on you. It is very hard, especially when "everyone" elses babies "sleep through", and it's really hard to not compare yourself to the "coffee group myth". Personally, I would take it with a grain of salt. Some peoples "sleeping through" is different to others. Technically, plunket etc say sleeping through is only doing 5 straight hours, so....
Some of these mums may be starting the day at 6am, and baby may be waking for a feed before mum retires for the night, so in reality, it's only 6 or 7 hours.
It does end, my 2y 9 m son has only just started sleepign though in the last 2 months.
Don't beat yourself up! You are doing a great job, and every baby is different, and you will learn to cope withthe tired, lol, and it will become your new normal!
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:18pm |
Thanks again everyone. Re: day feeds I'm pretty sure he's getting enough. At least every three hours and sometimes I top him up before he goes back to bed. We did have an issue with catnapping and snacking but that is fine now. Day sleeps and eating good. I hadn't been cluster feeding so tried that last night and fed every half hour from 4.30pm to 6.30pm - the last feed being a good half hour after his bath which is usual, but it made no difference to his night sleeps. Dream feeds are irrelevant at the moment because he's waking up fully around 10pm anyway. From talking to you all it may be nursing him to sleep at 6.30pm that gives him the idea he can do this at night as well. Although when I do pick him up at night he certainly seems ravenous and not just after comfort sucking. All this disruption seems to have started when I first got my period a month ago. I'm told it shouldn't have an effect, but I'm beginning to wonder. Any thoughts on that?
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Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:20pm |
By the way I am a single Mum so no partner to take over nightshift unfortunately
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