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    Posted: 10 March 2008 at 2:29pm
right lots of people seem to have babies who are sleeping through....not mine:) but he does 3-4 hour stretches of sleep which is fine by me...during the day he mostly goes back to bed(with a little play) and a bath at night.. i just go by his cues...

i do try the one hour turn around but it doesnt always work and he will have one 2-3 hour at a time awake period during the day(better than4am like it used to be) :)

anyway today the lack of sleep has got to me (probably the bleeding thing :( making me more tired and grumpy))....anyway so my question is when trying to keep to the one hour turnaround(or close) when he goes over that time and is overtired it takes ages to settle him..or like last night i did nothing different at all and first time straight to sleep next time up 330-530:(

any suggestions for faster turnaround...

I'm not against formula feeding at night.. or rocking to sleep(even that takes 45 mins if he doesnt wanna sleep)i know if they dont wanna sleep you cant make them but man at 530am i was sooo tired..then he woke at 7am:( (not normally what happens) or anything that works:)

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I remember the first few weeks I was a walking zombie – I really don’t cope with lack of sleep either. It is normal though and the women that have babies sleeping through from so early are the exception and not the norm. Most babies will be sleeping through from about 6 months.

Have you checked out the baby sleep section on OH BABY? Baby sleep

My little lady didn't sleep through until she was older so, how did I cope? Here goes:

1) I learnt to feed lying down and when she woke in the middle of the night I pulled her into bed with me and fell asleep while I fed her (I wish I’d started doing this sooner but I was stubborn and didn’t want to co-sleep – silly me, co-sleep is better than no-sleep).
2) I went to bed early. Once she was off to sleep for the night I got ready for bed too and usually was asleep by 8:30pm
3) Nana naps. Most days I didn’t make any plans between 12-1pm because this was my nap time.

Also have you thought about having a couple of bottles ready (breast or formula) one night a week and telling your DH he’s on feeding duty from 10pm – 7am that one night every week?

As the OB article says “just do what you need to do to enjoy the first few months with your baby.”
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thanks for that link..co-sleep scares the crap outta me..its mostly due to being forced to at the hospital and twice falling asleep after feeding at home on the chair it freaked me out..even though i know its mostly safe.. yeah bed early is a good one..i have to start doing that..I'm so stubborn:)!when he is asleep in the bouncer im too scared to sleep worried bout blankets on him etc.. though getting better now he used to do most day sleeps in bouncer...he just does the first one normally now(though not today of course)

Also have you thought about having a couple of bottles ready (breast or formula) one night a week and telling your DH he’s on feeding duty from 10pm – 7am that one night every week?

as far as this no.....he's supposed to do last feed with EBM but he will fall asleep before then or i send him to bed as he has to work and its useless forcing him to stay up.. i would love him too and sometimes he gets up and is great other times like last night he slept through everything including accidental alarm being set off...i get a bit pissed off..he's our baby not just mine:( in the weekends easier sometimes to just do it myself (breasts getting full etc) and if i keep expressing we end up wasting it though i have freezer bags now... i guess i just need to tell him what i need as he puts it...cant he figure it out.....:) lol...sorry anyway those are fab suggestions and i must actually start doing them instead of being pig headed:)

As the OB article says “just do what you need to do to enjoy the first few months with your baby.”

lol...i love Ethan and enjoy the day times and being a parent but i gotta say i thought the first few months would be a little more.. shared with Dh (who goes on about how he's soooooo tired after 8 hours sleep..lol) and a little less scary:) still its getting better!
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oh and if my Mum says one more time ' you slept through the night 12 hours form the hospital'!! My brother didnt sleep through till 4(long story but he is disabled and noone knew)so its not like she had perfect children!:)
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Tom didnt sleep through until just recently but I got very good at feeding half asleep. I also found things got easier when I didnt have to change his nappy in the middle of the night.

As for your DH, they often dont know what to do with little babies and he will get better as Ethan becomes more interactive. I would make him get up over the weekend.....even if you have to get up and express. I found it was nice to have the company if nothing else. My DH had bruises in his back during that time

Even now he is slow to get up and doesnt hear Tom and by the time I have woken him up I wonder if it is just easier to do it myself (and I normally have to join him anyway) but I continue to make him get up and he (says) he doesnt mind and that is what he is there for.

He is actually really good at taking Tom in the morning to let me have a lie in. He will bring Tom in for his feed and then take him away and I can go back to sleep.

Funnily enough the very first night tom slept through was a night when I had said to DH "i am so exhausted, please please please can you deal to him this night". So DH slept lightly so that he wouldnt miss him and little bugger slept 12 hrs! and has done since....bloody murphys law.
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For the turnarounds at night to speed them up you could try skipping the nappy change if it isn't pooey, if he was sleeping through it wouldn't get changed. Or you could try changing it first and then feeding so that he gets doozey from the food rather than woken up from the nappy change. Trouble is if he is already screaming for food he might not tolerate a bum change first so you could try feeding changing feeding instead. Try to get to him the second he stirs and don't wait for a cry (haha, yeah like its easy to drag your corpse like body outta bed, it does work though). Hmmmm that is all I can think of at the moment. Oh keep it dark and quiet.

Oh and tell DH to "man up", failing that I found a complete emotional melt down would normally get me some help, men just don't get subtle...lol

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nzpiper- yeah atm i have to change him every feed...he pooes EVERY feed so if i didnt have to change him that would make a huge difference.. when did that stop for you?

yeah atm i try to get him up..half the time he doesnt get up the other half he looks like a walking zombie then is 'soooo tired ' all day but if i say get up he will its when i and i quote' dont exactly say what i want him to do' that he ignores me and goes back to sleep...I'm like you are not an idiot you can see what i need doing..lol... sometimes its just not worth the drama.. but then i get sick of doing it myself too! but when he does help he is brilliant.. !!he always baths him too i must admit!

i just rea don..yeah well DH says he doesnt mind once hes up but then all day hes so tired and grumpy and really i cant be bothered with it sometimes.. as i told him last night and i think he got the idea as he rang at lunch just to see how we are:)
i guess when Ethan is bigger it wil be easier..but there's no way he would her him first..he can sleep through the monitor by his head unless 'he knows hes in charge' ....lol the perils of marrying a blokey bloke builder!:)

so thats all i have to say to get him to sleep 12 hours..awesome:)!! though i panic when its longer than 3 atm!!hehe cant win.
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cuppatea-9.9 times out of 10 he is pooey or soaked through...if i could..i would skip it!!

and i have tried changing first then he raises arm like superman and poos in the middle of the feed to half fill his nappy and wont sleep till its changed..lol! i thought babies could sleep through poos!

i do try to get him before cries.. (doesnt seem to make a difference in terms of resettling sometimes hes been crying cause its middle of the night and goes right back down and others he hasnt been crying and wont..very random..i do the dark thing but not the quiet ..if there was no tv on I'd go right back to sleep while feeding:) esp that first 230ish one..

yeah he says 'i dont do subtle just tell me what you need..' I'm like dont be a dumbass its freaking obvious what i need...emotional meltdown sounds like a great idea..i will try man up though:)! see so i have been trying all the ways they others do it but sometimes seems so random..some whole days will be great and settle fine others not.. and 2 hours last night nearly broke me..i was proud i didnt wake DH ..though typically he got up at 530am..then promptly fell back asleep and was nearly late cause he was 'so tired' !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agreeing with only changing the nappy if it's pooey or really wet. I wish I know this earlier as I only started doing this a few months ago and it has helped as nappy changing really woke Jack up. I just smoother him in a bit more nappy cream than usual.

What I also found good was feeding Jack in our bed when he was little - I too was scared of bed sharing when he was younger and have only just started to do it now that he's bigger. He slept in our room and I would just put the bedside light on prop myslef up with a tripillow and feed him in bed. DH didn't mind as he generally slept through, I didn't seem to wake up so much either and found I wasn't as tired, plus it wasn't so lonely even though DH was asleep.
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All I can add is that all babies are different. Maya was sleeping thru every night religiously from 7 weeks and followed a pretty standard 3 hourly routine during the day with the one hour up feed/change/play thing.

The gremlins were awful sleepers, never lasted longer than 1/2 hour awake (they were bottle fed so feeding didn't take as long as b/feeding) and would wake without fail every night at 1am and scream till 3am even tho I dream fed them at 10.30pm. They didn't sleep thru till about 15 weeks, and even then it was hit and miss, it still is, they wake every few nights for a drink of water and a cuddle.
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I does get easier... my oldest two didn't sleep through until 10-11 mos
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my youngest still doesnt sleep thru the night and he is 2...

from memory tho it was about 4 mnths when i considered them sleeping thru the night. it does get easier and i found having the room as dark as possible during the night feeds and as quiet as poss helped too.   

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thanks everyone.. yeah i will be just much happier when it takes less time at night and he just wakes up once..that would be wonderful:) i just read 10 % of babies dont sleep through at 12 months!!!!!!!!!!!!

last night slept 4 hours then up for 1.5 (even Dad tried and it didnt work to get him back to sleep and i tried EVERYTHING..) and then slept 3 hours...up for 30mins and back to sleep so its getting better:) ..though DAd is leaving for work now and his big stupid noisy car sometimes wakes him up:( !!!
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It fully depends on the baby and they all do it in their own time. My boy doesnt slept through yet and is currently waking every 3 hours at night.
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The otehr interesting thing about sleeping through is what peple count - I read that over 6 hours is sleeping through...
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Originally posted by Bel Bel wrote:

The other interesting thing about sleeping through is what peple count - I read that over 6 hours is sleeping through...


Good point Bel. I only ever counted sleeping through as not waking up between being put to bed and 6am but other people do call it sleeping through when a baby sleeps 6 hours in a row.

Michaela was like Caleb skyflame, she would wake several times a night right up until about 10 months old. The amazing thing is your body gets used to it and you learn to cope. I was doing all the night wakeups and going to work for 8 hours a day from when Michaela was 5 months.

Once she reached 10 months though I decided to actively encourage her to sleep through, I read several books, talked to my older mummy friends and consulted a sleep expert and once I decided on and implemented my action plan she was self settling and sleeping through within 3 nights.
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Yeah well Luke has been sleeping at least 6 hours from 6 weeks, but has just started doing 12 hours this week. I don't want to skite, but was just trying to understand what people meant by sleeping through.
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Originally posted by Bel Bel wrote:

Yeah well Luke has been sleeping at least 6 hours from 6 weeks, but has just started doing 12 hours this week. I don't want to skite, but was just trying to understand what people meant by sleeping through.


Did you wake up after 6 hours? It's a PITA that your body becomes so accustomed to waking up in the wee small hours that when your baby does eventually sleep through you wake up anyway.
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Yeah body was still waking, and so I was going in to tuck himin /check on him or whatever. But last night he slept right through - so I did as well!!!

Also, he built up from 6 hours, adding on about 1/2hr more each week... He has been doing over 10 hours for the last month...


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I heard sleeping through is only 5/6 hours as well! Jack sleeps 7.30-7.30 with a dreamfeed at 10.30, no nappy change. But he's FF so only poos once or twice a day so he can go all night.
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