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    Posted: 21 September 2009 at 8:04am

Hi

I'm wanting to know what the advice/opinion/experience is of those of you who have started their baby on solids earlier rather than later?

I ask cos Clodagh is a big bonny lass who lately seems to be wanting more and more feeding more frequently...I am demand feeding and am aware of growth spurts and also the chance there's some comfort feeding involved but still....

I've told Mum what WHO and Plunket advise and she still thinks baby is ready for some cereal etc. I'm not sure bout right now but can't honestly see her lasting another 2 months! She sits up well, puts everything in her mouth to taste, watches us eat in fascination and lately has been making this hard core sucking/chewing face all day lol  

When can I tell if she's readt for solids? Will I hurt her or make her obese if I start her on solids earlier than 6 months?

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You can go ahead with giving her solids but do keep in mind that it may not be an automatic fix on the booby feeding - front.. ie.. she may still want to feed as often (as I have found out!)
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Hiyah

Sounds to me like she's ready.
We started Hannah at 4 months. Just tiny tiny amounts but that seemed to satisfy her.

I wouldn't worry about her weight. She'll be starting to get more mobile before too long - wriggling around on her tum, rolling lots etc.. So she'll need extra energy to replace the stuff she's burned off

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Jake was on solids by 3 months (even Plunket thought he was ready!) and trying to feed himself by 5. Some babies are just ready earlier
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I think Plunket guidelines are: Between 4 & 6 months but no earlier than 4 months so......

Way to go Clodagh!!
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I went to a seminar thingy at plunket who said anytime after 4 months, but if you havnt started by 6 months then you need to as they need more iron.
I would give some farex/baby rice type cereal a go and see what she thinks!!!
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it wont make her obese... but some other things to watch out for are allergies and i think that the reason behind starting later is that their digestive systems and stomachs arent fully matured. to start with they dont eat much anyway so yeah her desire for booby wont be lessened. the other thing to consider is that once you start on solids there is more work involved . showing an interest in food may just be a different type of milestone, not a readiness to eat herself... the other thing to look out for is the tongue reflex thing (cant remember what its called, but its where if they stick their tongue out when you offer them a spoon of food they arent ready.)

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We started at 4 and a half months and to be honest our two didn't show any signs of being "ready" but I was too excited about the cute little bowls and spoons I brought lol Plus I thought it would be easy with twins in the long run to just get them going early. I don't see any harm at all. Sometimes I think Plunket go a little overboard with their rules. Unless your starting her off on magnum ice creams I don't think you need to worry about obesity lol. We only gave our girls a teaspoon of baby rice once a day for the first month more to get them used to taking food off a spoon and the baby rice is really just like slightly thickened formula. The funny thing is despite not showing any of the signs plunket says you need to start solids both H & E took to it straight away.

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If you can get the spoon in her mouth without her poking out her tongue (extrusion reflex) and she has good head support you could definitely try offering her a little bit of pear or cereal or something.

Sirius started on solids just before 4 months. He had been watching us eat and getting really frustrated since about 2months. He was definitely ready

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Yeah thats the key, if she spits the spoon back out then she physically isnt ready to eat but she lets the spoon in then go for it.

Jake has been on solids for just over a week now and he LOVES it.

It has not affected the amount of boobie time though... One small feed a day doesnt really affect the appetite LOL

Have you been to the plunket solids talk? Not that great but they do give you a chart with Stage 1, Stage 2 and Stage 3 foods. I found this handy....


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Originally posted by Kellie Kellie wrote:

If you can get the spoon in her mouth without her poking out her tongue (extrusion reflex)


This is the only one I use. All the other 'signs' are developmental milestones that ALL babies reach, some sooner than others. DS2 was watching us eat from 8 weeks but that didn't mean he was ready for solids. They watch EVERYTHING you do. He was 7 months old before he wanted to go anywhere near them.

Kellymom has some wonderful info on solidsincluding why it is best to delay them and how to tell when your baby might be ready. We skipped farex, mainly due to the fact it is iron fortified which inhibits the absorption of iron from bm, which is more readily absorped anyway. He was still on 4-8 bf a day at 10 months when he was finally on 3 meals and 3-6 at 12 months even though he was a gutso for food so in my experience the number of bf don't diminish just because they are on solids.

Our 3 and 4 month growth spurt merged together and about drove me so insane (was getting about 30 minutes 'sleep' between feeds if lucky at one point) that had I had formula in the house I would have given him some, not because I wanted to or he needed it, but because it was there and readily available.   
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so funny we were talking about this at my cousins my aunt said that when her oldest was only a couple of weeks old she went next door and whoever it was said that my cousin was just hungry give her some farex lol. She couldn't even hold her head up.

This was over 30yrs ago though



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Go for it, we started just before 4 months. He just seemed hungry. No way could we have lasted until 6.

The not poking the tongue out bit is key really. And just stick to a couple of simple things, carrot, baby rice, pumpkin, or something, think thats what we started on.

Just be really careful with mushed up apple and banana can really constipate - we had that issue. Pears were better.

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I just want to say thanks for posting this - i was thinking all the same things about my 4.5 month old baby - i tried her last week on solids and she didnt quite get it so i tried her again today and although she only ate a teaspoon of farex by the end of it she was grabbing my fingers with the spoon in it and aiming it towards her mouth - she loved it!

My plunket nurse was very "NO solids before 6 months" yet the info she gave me said after 4 and before 6 months so i kinda rolled my eyes at her
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I heard that plunket are in talks to change the recommended age back to 4months.
I am pretty sure the 6months is just there as a safety net, not an exact rule.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Emmecat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2009 at 7:37am

Oh wow thanks for all these great replies ladies!

I think I will try Clodagh on a little wee bit of rice cereal...she sticks her tongue out at us all day lol but when you put a dummy or a bottle in there she grabs onto it with gusto lol. Sh'es been holding her head up really well since the early weeks, she is a bif strong girl (as some of you have seen IRL lol ) so I *think* she'll be ok...

I missed the last Plunket solids talk but the next one isn't for another month! And I'm not sure we'll last that long....we already have the chart which is awesome and has given me some good ideas.

But once again, the feedback from you guys has been the betst!

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Lydia was making all the starting solids signs at 4 months too, but I decided it was too early and stretched her out until 5 months. We may have lasted longer, but I sustained an injury that prevented BFing on one side for any longer than to relieve the pressure!

By 5 months Lydia was picking food off my plate and eating it, so while BF was reduced we supplemented BLW with some puree. But as soon as BF was happening properly again (1.5 weeks) we dropped the mushes and left her to it.

Agreed with the KellyMom site - was very helpful when I wasn't sure what to do at 4 months.
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We started Ollie at 4 months as he really seemed ready. I would have held out longer if he wasn't waking every couple of hours for feeds at night!

Thankfully Ollie took to solids like a typical BOY and now he's on three meals a day, and is sleeping MUCH better, not having any milk feeds anymore from his last feed until about 6am, which is much more respectable when it comes to sleep.

Hope you have the same kind of luck!
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There is a list from plunket what stages to give each food, which might be useful .

C I had on solids at 6 months, Ty , I'll see


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Plunket have just revised their guidelines back to "between 4 and 6 months", they used to be "from 6 months" (and in the dark ages when I had Maya they were "4-6 months" - talk about make up your minds!)

From a physiological perspective, regardless of all the physical signs of readiness (holding head up, no extrusion reflex etc.), the lining of the gut is permeable until around 6 months of age which means that the protein particles baby consumes can pass into the bloodstream. This is where the risk of allergies comes in, the body doesn't recognise these protein particles and the immune system kicks into action to try and fight them off. Bear in mind too that baby's digestive system, kidneys, liver etc. are all tiiiiiiny!

I started Maya on solids at 16 weeks on Plunkets advice as she was big and hungry, her weight gains had slowed right down and she was fairly advanced for her age (plus as Lisa said, the cute little bowls and spoons were calling me), but in hindsight it was a bad idea - her weight issues were allergy related and starting solids only made it worse.

We started the gremlins at 4 and a bit months, again, I was overeager and it didn't really serve any purpose other than to make more work for me!

Lil miss was exclusively breastfed from birth so I got a bit obsessed with getting her to 6 months on breastmilk alone. We got there, but by that stage she was waking several times a night for a feed and crawling so using heaps of energy so she probably could have started a little earlier.
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