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    Posted: 27 July 2010 at 2:45pm
With b2 due in a couple of months, I'd love to hear your tips.
How did you coordinate naps, routines, feeds etc? How did you manage to get out of the house with two kids? Have a shower? Do jobs like the washing, supermarket shopping etc? Entertain a busy toddler?

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I had 21 months between my 2.

For getting out of the house, I get everything ready the night before snacks, drinks,nappy bag etc. Saves loads of time/hassle in the mornings.   

I shower DD and Ds sits in his rocker in the bathroom with us. I don't shower alone anymore

Most of the time I put the washing on at night and DD usually plays while I hang it out. Ds is in his carrier on my back.

I totally recommend gettting a wrap/carrier/sling of some kind. They are worth their weight in gold

When DS was first born I would read to DD while feeding as he fed a LOT.
I also made sure DD had snacks, water, toys where she could reach while I was feeding.

Ummm nap time co-ordination hasn't happened here yet lol.
I do a lot of the cleaning/chores while DD is asleep. I carry DS .

With keeping them entertained we got DD a mega sketch thing. Those magnetic drawing thingees IKGWIM. So she can scribble to her hearts content without a mess .   And I have a few toys that I put away and doesn't play with as often for when she gets bored.

I found getting DD involved in bathing/changing/dressing bubs helped a lot too. She loved getting nappies and helping pick clothes and things.

Take ALL the help you can get in the beginning, includign others who want to take you older child out.   We don't have family that help out so it was quite a struggle in the beginning.

Supermarket shopping i make DH come too and he and DD have a list of things to get so that keep her entertained. I'm about to trial shopping by myself tomorrow that should be fun

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Mine was a wee bit older than yours. Then first few weeks I refused to leavev the house without DH. That was the hardest as there was only a 2 hr window where I coudl go out.  
I thought it was going to be really hard as I didn't know how DS would be with the baby. He was quite good at entertaining himself so when I was feeding he was ok to just play. Or I'd give him a bowl of bit of fruit and dry cereal, cheese and crackers.
If he was having a feral day I sat him in his highchair while I fed DD.

I grocery shop at night. I shower at night when DH is home. One time I had to shower in the mornign due to a baby poop explosion so I put baby in the bouncer in the bathroom and got in the shower with ds lol he thought it was great.

Can people not do washing with a baby??? I have my laundry in the garage (I/A) and there a washing line in there, an extendable one. When I'm hanging it ouside, and both children are awake, DD goes in the moby and DS just toddles out with us. Its all fenced off so he just runs around. He loves pegs.

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go with the flow....

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Yep, dont stress it does all happen somehow!!

I had 19-20months between my two.

It's really not too bad, the supermarkets have double trolleys and if you go anywhere else you can keep them both contained in a pram!

Feeding - me and baby got really good at mobile feeds!!

cooking dinner etc, I had one of those bouncers (essential if you ask me!!), so I could put it on the bench (watching it full time ofcourse), then DS1 could play without me worrying about the baby.

Hope I dont scare you, but the first year is probably one of the easiest, the new baby stays just were you put it, that's novel!! Although mine are getting easier now, they will play happily for a few hours at a time (some days, other days they will fight every two minutes!!).

Having them close is hard work but wonderful, they end up very close in abilities etc and great friends!!
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Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

go with the flow....


Totally agree.

I have14 months between mine, and I just took each day as it came, I had no expectations and everyday was so different.
Dont stress, just go with the flow :) Things all fall into place!

Showers - If one was awake and was asleep, I put the awake one in their bed while I showered, or went loo, whatever.

Shopping- Its easy :) Double seated trolleys or when theya re babys, the baby seat and toddler seat ones.

Feeding - We got a playpen for DS to play in while I fed DD if he was up, or I put him in his highchair with some food.

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One suggestion I read is for keeping track of the milestones because you are so often busy you dont have the timeq liqkeq you did with numbe`r ``1` so have a calendar up and mark on the calendar the milestones for either or both so that when you have time you can go back and fill in the baby book


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So much fun!! I have 17 months between my two and it really does improve after the first year!

You really do just have to go with the flow for the first few months, lots of activites for the older one, and an idea of what you want to achieve with the younger - sleeps, feeds etc. I found that everyone offered advice about books for older one to read while feeding, snacks on hand etc and things weren't as bad as that! He learnt what was going on pretty quickly, just don't let your older one run total riot too much and you'll be fine!!

So nice once they get to a year old and can play together etc - we love the age gap!

Oh yeah, it is hard to coordinate sleeps for a while, but it does settle down after a while. Cross your fingers and go for it when you go out - don't plan long outings and you should be fine. Actually outings is where I find having snacks on hand really helpful - will always be able to shut a toddler up with raisins, muesli bar etc...

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i have 12 months between mine and they are still young but so far its been really easy. mack will play alone really happily on his own so feeds and stuff havent been a problem at all. as long as he has a couple of blocks within reach at least. lol.

i make his lunch at night once the kids are in bed.

i shower at night once both kids are in bed (ive always been a night showerer though)

i always have 1 kid awake at a time cos neither of them are really day sleepers so ive just managed to function. finn sits in a bouncer in front of the window while im doing stuff like washing, study, playing with mack etc..

mack doesnt eat morning or afternoon tea for some reason so snacks dont help much cos he just isnt interested but i have heard from lots of ppl that it can be a life saver.

mack is old enough to feed himself so no issues there.

gettting out of the house isnt hard at all though it can take about 15 mins to get bags packed and kids dressed warm etc.. so leave a wee bit of time. i keep spare nappies, wipes and a spill cloth in the car so if i decide to spontaneously go out all i need to do is grab bottles or food and we can go without much effort or stress. it also saves you from having to have a big bulky nappy bag.

supermarket we do in the weekend and DH comes too but if i have to go during the week i just throw them both in the trolley.

washing, cooking, and so on i just do like normal but we have a safety gate across the arch into the kitchen so mack cant get in and under my feet.

we dont have TV here but maybe you could put the oldest in front of it while you cook dinner or need time out etc...


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I plan to start getting out the door 15 minutes before I need to leave because I always end up leaving right on time, the baby will spit up or poo right before we leave, this is even if I have organised bags the night before, I always have to spend time running after DS1.
I have found a double pram ($100 off trade me) invaluable, if DS1 won't sit in it at least its there for the times I need him to be contained like in the library when he keeps trying to run out the automatic doors..
I usually shop at night or on weekends.
We got some sticker books from TWH which keeps DS1 asorbed for a long period of time (as long as a toddler will stay still), which is great for appointments (drs, osteos)

We also have a playpen for the baby so he is safe from little poking fingers.
Also we put a baby gate on the babys room.

You hope like heck they will sleep at the same time, I usually avoid putting DS1 down for his PM nap until DS2 is almost ready for his nap (DS2 sleeps a lot ) then I will usually get an hour to myself
I hang washing out on my clothes horses, which means I can do it regardless of what the kids are doing, if I hang it outside, I leave the baby inside and take DS1 out.

other chores get done as I can. Plan meals ahead, I made up a menu which helped heaps, and would make parts of it during the day, or organise the ingredients as I could, so when it came to the cooking it wasn't such a mission.

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Take lots of sleeping drugs and an annual solo trip to the Maldives  

lol just kidding SpecialK....this is a great thread cos I'm in the same boat as you!! What were we May Mummies thinking?.....  


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I have got a much bigger gap between my 2 but some of the tips still apply

- I try and get most of my chores at the way in the morning during DS sleep. The crockpot is a must have and in the very early days it was the only way I could get dinner on the table by 5.30. I put a load of washing on in the morning and unless its a nice day all of the kids clothes get hung in the laundry so I can keep an eyes on them while I do it.

 

- Moby wrap was my must have, as when we went out DD was in the buggy and DS in the wrap.

 

- nap coordination. i am very lucky in that DD still sleeps 3 hrs over midday/early afternoon so once I got DS sleeping well during the day then their naps naturally coordinated. Some days I get 2 hrs to myself while the kids sleep- on those days I try and relax during the first part (internet, book etc) and then do the rest of the housework after I have had a break.

 

- supermarket shopping.DH does it in the evening and I write out a meal plan for 2 weeks and give him a list based on that.

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Originally posted by Emmecat Emmecat wrote:

Take lots of sleeping drugs and an annual solo trip to the Maldives  


lol just kidding SpecialK....this is a great thread cos I'm in the same boat as you!! What were we May Mummies thinking?.....  



Lol Karen! Not much thinking here...

Seriously, these have all been great suggestions, thank you.

I've got a bouncer and an ergo and it sounds like I'll be getting a lot of use out of them!
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21 months gap here and ditto some of the other suggestions. Shop in evening, online or weekend to save the stress of trying to coordinate it. I do sometimes do it with both though.

Washing also, do it at night or at least get it all loaded ready to go.

I found feeding times were the trickiest as you're stuck there and for whatever reason toddler is most demanding at that time. Use DVDs, books, snacks, whatever your toddler likes best. Or all of the above.

Naps coordinate pretty well here at times but since they are constantly changing as baby gets bigger it changes all the time.

Accept all offers of help.

Become good at singing action songs over and over and doing the actions one armed while feeding.

Learn to feed while standing and cooking dinner.

Take valium if you have some, otherwise caffeine can get you through.

Put toddler first - i didn't want ds1 to see ds2 as an inconvenience or negative and so we kept up his activities and outings etc, sometimes at expense of baby nap times being perfect. Not sure if this is why but ds1 has never shown any jealousy or aggression towards ds2.

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I second everything everyone else has said.  Mine two are 18 months apart and I'm doing it on my own so it must be do-able!  It's a great age gap and these two are already pretty close.  DD's face just lights up when DS walks into the room, and DS is always chatting to his sister and giving her cuddles.  As soon as he hears her waking he is keen to run into her room and talk to her (not always what you want!!).

I would say the double buggy is a fantastic tool - I love mine. 

I don't even attempt to co-ordinate nap times and never have.  DS will still have a 1-2 hour afternoon sleep and so I generally try to be home for that.  Other than that I have always expected my babies to sleep in the buggy if we are out - I just don't make it a full day thing (although DS was always a good sleeper wherever we were).

Involve your older one even though they are still little.  Ollie is quite capable of 'helping' by getting wipes or a toy or something and it makes him feel like he is helping which he loves. He has also started getting one of his chairs out and standing at the bench with me to 'help' make dinner.

I read to them together at bedtime and sometimes bath them together.  If I'm bathing DS and not DD she quite often comes and lies on a towel in the bathroom and just hangs out with us.

If it's a day when we need to be out of the house fairly early I will get up and have a shower before they wake, otherwise we just go with the flow and I wait until DD (the baby is asleep) and leave the door ajar so that Ollie can come and go as he wishes (whoever said they never showered alone anymore, I completely agree with that one

Always have snacks on hand, and a stash of homemade or jarred baby food so that you are never caught short.  I also sometimes have nappies etc in the glove box just in case.

I now try and alternate who goes first and talk to Ollie about it a little so that he understands we are alternating a little - it has only come up for us because I quite often need to put one of them in the car and come back for the other so we talk about it.  I don't know if that's a big deal really - it just came out of a conversation with him so I went with it figuring that it might be good for him to see that it's okay to 'share' being first!

I suspect having two close together is no more difficult to any other age gap - it just brings different challenges but I wouldn't swap it for the world. 

 

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rescue remedy spray is grt for the toddler meltdowns when you're trying to get out of the house (and for you too!)

got easier in our house at the 9mth mark (but we had whooping cough and crap nights, so may be better for you). we've got an 18mth gap.

gina fords routines are good for something to aim towards, coz then the kids are semi in sync and you can plan when your "breaks" are going to be

one thing i found really hard was when I weaned the 2nd, I had been pregnant and breastfeeding for 3 years, so I had a hormone crash and had a really crap month where I was almost depressed (looking back). so just a heads up for that. talking to other mums they had similar and it seems to last a cycle and them improve. altho I went to a kinesiologist who helped immensely

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oh i have been there a few times lol
the biggest age gap i have between my 4 boys is 23mths.

i found the hardest thing was doing groceries with a toddler to entertain and a baby to keep happy.
none of my babies liked being in the baby seats on the trolleys and they never stayed content enough to just leave in capsule. my slings/wraps were the best solution. if you havent got one already, get one. i wish i had my wrap with all my babies but only had it with my last baby.
out of everything i have for babies that is deff my must have.

i found that after the 1st baby the rest just end up working their own routine around whats already going on.

the hardest part is those 1st few weeks your feeding what feels like non stop, waking a few times a night, constantly trying to get baby to just sleep more than 20mins etc.

deal with one child at a time even if they are both wanting something right now, pick who you will sort out 1st and tune out from the other one, just make sure you dont pick the same one all the time. that would be my hardest point in any day is when im bombarded with "i want" from 4 directions.
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