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    Posted: 21 July 2010 at 6:46pm
I’m at my wits end with DS (24mths) getting out of bed during the night and his early waking. He was a brilliant sleeper from around 7mths to 21mths, apart from illness or teething he slept through regularly. At 21mths I decided to take the side of his cot as he is a big lad and it was hurting my back a little to lift him in and out. Ever since he has been a total nightmare for waking anywhere between 1 and 5 times during the night and needing me to put him back to bed and waking at around 5am thinking its time to start the day (today it was 4.15am). We have a black out curtain in his room but the light does travel up the stairs and from our room but cant shut his door as a) we never have and he now hates it and will get hysterical and b) he can open it any way (have a baby gate across his doorway).

He goes down at night fine (now, it took a few weeks to wean off the sleeping bag) and day sleeps too but all the resettling I’m having to do during the night is taking its toll on both of us. He is falling asleep much earlier in the day, wanting to nap longer, asking for the TV more than he used to and generally shirty but that’s probably just the joys of toddlerhood and my fuse and patience aren’t what they used to be. We are currently TTC#2 and I know those first 12 weeks are a killer for tiredness so really want to sort this problem now if possible!

Options I’m considering that feedback on would be great...
a)     Put side back on cot
b)     Buy a bed guard
c)     Buy a proper big single bed
d)               Limit his day sleep to an hour (wont let him do more than 2 now) or cut them out altogether
e)     Leave him to cry during the night and figure out how to get himself back into bed
f)     Leave him to cry in the mornings and figure out how to amuse himself until 6am

I’m worried that putting the sides back on will be really confusing for him and of no use anyhow cos he’s lost the ability to re-settle himself so he’ll just keep waking.   Physically the cot bed is low enough that he is absolutely fine getting in and out of the bed. Any ideas on how to get past this issue would be fantastic, thanks!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NikkiB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2010 at 7:42pm
Is he too young to bribe? My DS1 was waking super early and we told him that if he stayed in bed until 6am (we have an alarm clock in his bedroom and the music comes on at 6) then he'll get a new hot wheels car. When he was doing it regularly, we started giving him stickers instead of a car. It worked really well.

I started by setting his alarm for 6am, when he was achieving that, I was setting his clock back 5 minutes every week until we got to 6.30am.

If DS gets up before 6am, then we remind him that he won't get a new car if he doesn't go back to bed. We also found that if we showed him the car he'd be getting in the morning, while we were putting him to bed at night, then that would also help.   

I also place a small container of mixed toys in his bedroom for him to play with if he wakes up before 6am.

As far as getting up, would you consider using a safe t sleep?

One thing I noticed when we moved DS into a proper bed, for a while, he didn't get out of it by himself. To give him a little more security, we would place the cot mattress up against the bed, so he felt he had a side to his bed iykwim? It also worked as a protector if he ever fell out of bed.

Hope you have find this helpful.
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Thanks Nikki, lots of really good tips there!! I've had some success bribing him with pudding if he eats some vegies in the past couple of weeks but it kinda wore off after a few goes so I'm not sure he's quite ready yet. Lord knows sticker bribery isnt working for using the potty LOL

I think the music alarm clock is a good place to start, not sure if he'll understand just yet but cant hurt to start the process.

I was hesitant to jump into buying a new bed and bed guard if it doesnt help but I guess there is no way to know and we'll need it eventually I guess! At this stage I'm willing to try just about anything LOL

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I haven't reached that stage yet however would a Safe T Sleep be suitable? I was told you can use them up to 3 years.
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I've heard good things about clocks with early risers (like gro clocks)- he is the right age for it too.
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Oh I have seen this monkey clock - it is to help keep the little ones in bed in the am until the monkey says it's time to get up!

http://www.thesleepstore.co.nz/shop/Ergo+carriers+Slings++Sleep+accessories/Sleep+Trainer+Clocks/Momo+Monkey+Zoo+Baby+Sleep+Trainer+Clock.html

The sleepstore also has info on what to do if your toddler wakes in the night/wakes up too early.

http://www.thesleepstore.co.nz/Sleep+Information/Toddlers+and+Preschoolers.html
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i'm no help really as my 5 year old end up in our bed most nights. but i have taught him to go to his dads side of the bed so its his problem...

if he was still in his sleepsack would that stop him?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SpecialK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 July 2010 at 3:11pm
We've been wondering when to transfer our toddler into a 'big' bed and some stuff I have read lately suggests delaying it until they are around 3 years old and keeping them in a sleeping bag until then as well.

Apparently it's to do with how well they are able to deal with the change at 3 (kids are supposed to be very territorial about their beds), and you can reason etc with them as well.

So no idea whether or not this is practical, but might be worth trying him back in the cot with the side up?
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The monkey clock is great and works, you can also get it from baby city.

Daniel tells us that monkey is going to sleep, if he wakes up early and gets out of bed we tell him how monkey is still asleep so he better go back to bed and it only took 2-3 nights before he got the hang of it. If you go down that route though don't let them see you take the back off of it.
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SpecialK - mine is 3 and reasoning with him was easier when he was 2
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I must be a mean mummy!! Luke and Zavier went into toddler beds about a month ago when they hit two, and they worked out that they could get up when they want. So the first few weeks they would get up and cry at the door (we have always shut their door at night since they went into the single cots) and if they were still crying 10 minutes later we would check them out.

Then they got to the point where they would work out how to open their door - finding any toy they could to open it, and now we are at the point where bed time comes, they go down to bed with the door shut, and we have had to close it from the top, so they can't get out. And it is working. They just play for a while together and then put themselves to bed.

I guess that's a bit drastic, but they have dropped their day sleep now and that's the only way we can get them down to bed at night. Also they both know how to walk in their sleepsacks, so unsure if that idea would work?

I guess maybe try to drop your DS's day sleep so he tires out at night and sleeps longer?

Bizzy, lol I love that your son goes to DH's side. I need to try that one in the mornings. haha.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kiwikid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2010 at 9:47am
The funny thing is we dont have many issues with going to sleep, about 2 in 5 nights we'll have to go up once or maybe twice after saying Goodnight, just to give a cuddle and tuck back in but that is acceptable for us, it only takes 2mins.

I tried to give him some books and turn the light on but closed baby gate behind me at 5am this morning and he was extremely distraught, I tried leaving the gate open but it only took 5mins before I had a cardboard book shoved in my face back in my bed!

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