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Nobody ever agrees with me, but I'm from the 'eat what you want within reason' side of things.

I ate ham when I was pregnant and no I didn't cook it until it was piping hot because what would be the point? Hot ham is disgusting!

I worked in a deli for years before I got pregnant and I know there are strict food safety protocols that are adhered to in supermarket delicatessens. Outbreaks of listeria are rare and usually make it to the 6 O'Clock news.

I only ever eat fresh ham or fresh deli meat and I would never encourage others to do the same as I do, as everybody is different, and you're right it is only 9 months and you can easily go without alsorts of things, but to be honest, you might as well lock yourself inside your house to avoid being hit by a bus, being struck by lightning or trampled by stampedes of wild animals.

I personally am more relaxed when it comes to food during pregnancy, but it's each to their own and if you feel uncomfortable about eating something then by all means, don't eat it.

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Originally posted by Anthea Anthea wrote:

sorry a wee bit off topic -

but you know how smoked stuff is out? is it ok to have a smoked bacon hock in a slow cooker soup? i have a recepie i really like that uses one, it cooks on high for 7 hours.


Personally I'd be fine with this - I mean its been bubbling away for 7 hours - surely there aren't any bugs left alive!
One thing I am careful with the slow cooker is to heat it up before I shove anything in it, just so the food isn't sitting around while the thing warms up. But again its a personal choice thing - I'm fine still using mine but others won't feel comfortable
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I still use the slow cooker too ... but I just put boiling water in it and start out / finish up on high so everythign is brought up to temp fast and zapped a bit at the end.

I end up just having salad sammies I prepare myself (no cold meats) or eat something else, so can't help really. Its a pain. But I'd rather be safe than sorry. I know I'd be devastated if I lost a baby cos I put some ham on a sammie! Each to their own though.
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I have frozen meals sometimes for lunch only ever the ww ones and beef never chicken or fish.
They have to be boiling all through and my Doc and MW said are ok to eat.
Or salad and tinned tuna or salmon sandwhich

Does anyone know if the uncle ben's rice in the packet is ok?

I really careful with what i eat and avoid all cold meat and deli salad.
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I can't wait to have a yummy sandwich again. There is a place round the corner from work that have the best wraps I have ever had....but with brie and usually smoked ham, so thats out.
Oh well looks like it will be left overs for a couple more months.
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I have realised that its almost impossible to eat healthy while your out and about...........!!! what healthy food is available if your like me and go out on the road and have to buy lunch on the run (i certainly wouldnt want to pack something and have it sit around in the car all day)
so besides unheathly burgers from maccas etc whats left???

I think some people take this stuff way too extremes.............. when you think about it, at some point someone has been responsible for that food and its hygeine long before it goes into your oven or freezer etc and you just have cross your fingers that all strict guidelines have been adhered to otherwise we are ALL at risk no matter what you eat (besides fruit and vegies)

So we cant just stop eating altogether on the off chance that that food might possibly be not handled correctly until we purchased it etc..........either that or get digging ladies and buy cows etc and grow it yourself!!!!

Im pretty much sticking to eating cruskits, rice crackers, fruit, cup of soups and cheeseballs.............and i can almost guarantee if my MS kicks in, i wont be able to go anywhere near that stuff, so i will be screwed
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I'm with you Neeandsam!

During my pregnancy I never cut back on anything at all... I ate cured meats, smelly french cheeses, runny eggs, oysters, pauas etc. But then again that is my choice and I'm so happy about it.
When out and about I was cautious about where I got my food from, but seriously if I cut out everything that I was told not to eat I would have had a ridiculously limited diet!

My opinion on this subject is to eat whatever you feel comfortable with and adhere to good hygiene standards... I was so much happier for it and I've continued to eat whatever since Novella was born and shes doing so well - put on 2&half pounds since birth and loving my milk!!!

Anyway, thats my bit
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im the same ...I have eaten ham on occasion , and tonight I even had a slice of salami, and it was good, I just don't eat it often .


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This is a bit OT too but I was wondering if anyone could shed light on why hummus (both store bought and home made) is suddenly a no no in the FSA handbook?

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The food safety authority says that eating hummus is fine as long as its eaten within two days of opening
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Not according to the table in the new book. It said that in the old one - that's why I'm wondering why it changed.

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I wondered that about hummus too. I have eaten it straight out of the packet, and i don't get why homemade hummus isn't OK.

Its interesting how you get different advice in different countries- my best friend is pregnant with her 2nd in the UK and we have compared notes- the only things they get told not to eat are unpasteurised cheeses, pates, uncooked eggs, and to be careful about seafood.
They aren't told not to eat ham, leftovers, prepacked sandwiches, hummus etc etc etc.

I was really good for the first trimester, but in the last few weeks I have been much more relaxed- have had a family bereavement and the only food in the house was quiches, pies, casseroles, sammies etc etc etc made by other people left for us to reheat. I didn't feel like cooking myself a special meal every time!

lunches are difficult- I have been eating cup-a soups too, and cheese and crackers. And I MISS sushi!!!!

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I'm being fairly relaxed with my food....basically using common sense. At the V8s last week I had Subway both days, I figured the turnover of everything was so fast that it had to be fresh (seriously, they were changing the containers about every 10 minutes if that), there was only one person doing one section (normal Subway, one person does it from start to finish - this had one for meat, one for bacon, one for salad, one for sauce, and one for payment). You weren't allowed to take food in, and I wasn't happy with eating hot chips a few times a day for 3 days in a row. Also, at the hospital at the moment I don't have a lot of choice - I eat what is there, pre-packaged sandwiches, or hot meals sitting in a bain marie....I'm not driving into town to find something else, or going home just to cook and eat tea and then go back. And I figure that it's a hospital, if their food isn't safe then whose is!! LOL

I do tend to stay away from deli food, because I don't know how long it's been there, and sometimes I see flies hanging round, which grosses me out.
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neeandsam I agree with you. Plus Listeria is also found in soil, water, plants, sewage and animal droppings so would have to avoid all these things to be completely safe! Not sure I could go 9 months without water :)
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I am making soup for tea tonight, tomatoes, black beans, jalapenos and HAM. its delicious and I crave it- and if I don't get what I crave I get grouchy.

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I'm going to make my own sushi in about a month when my craving for it outweighs my 'can't be arsed-ness' lol

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