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    Posted: 24 February 2011 at 11:04pm
My 5wk old has excema; red, blotchy, scaley, and very dry skin from the waist up. Her medical professionals say it is a lot worse than they usually see on babies this age and she has had hydrocortisone lotion this week to help clear it up. That has helped sort out the chronic stuff and we'll have a follow-up apmt tomorrow to talk about ongoing moisturising etc.

Who else has had something like this? Is aquaeous (or similar) cream enough? Did you change your diet (I am bf)? Did eliminating milk products make any difference?

Yes there's excema in the family - I had mine to adulthood and 2 out of 4 of baby's sisters still have it as well - but nowhere near the amount that Bethany has. They just have dry patches in places or particularly dry trunk, but not red.
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I stopped eating wheat and DD's excema went away completely. It was just a fluke that the first thing I tried worked.

Emu oil worked for my excema that I had a few years ago.
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My son had terrible excema right from the beginning and it was horrible. We got prescribed Hydrocortisone but didn't like to use it to much as they are so little. I would only use it when the rash got so bad it was splitting or getting out of control. I actually hate the Aqueous cream. I found it didn't do a thing to help either of my kids when I used it, and Samantha would scream the minute it was applied so I guess it was painful to have it on her.
My MIL sent me some lovely natural excema cream from Millstream gardens and it has done wonders to keep his excema under control. We have used it since he was very little and although it doesn't clear it completely it takes the redness/dryness away and stops it splitting.

Oh and another very important note is that we found out he is allergic to eggs. When I stopped eating them the excema improved a lot!

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Eczema in babies is often a first sign of a food intolerance or allergy. My daughter has multiple food allergies and gets eczema, which is currently well controlled. We use hydrocotisone when it's really bad, but use cetomacrogol cream, (which you can get on prescription) as a daily moisturiser. Our specialist recommended it, and it's been great. We wash her with emulsifying lotion and avoid any scented products on her skin.

Have you had a referral to a specialist? Our specialist has advised me to avoid dairy, seafood, egg & nuts when BF #2 when she arrives and to take supplements. Hope things improve for your DD soon.

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My DS had excema for awhile when he was younger and is now basically 100% cured after seeing a naturopath at Allergy Pathway in Mairangi Bay, Auckland. They found out he was allergic to dairy, salicylates and sugar and treated him in 3 treatments for this using pressure point massage. Prior to this I had taken him to the doctors who also gave us aqueous cream (the new recommendation for this is that it is only used in the bath and washed off as it is harmful to leave it on their skin as was done in the past) and hydrocortizone. I don't have to use either of these anymore. He only ever gets a few red dots on his tummy very occasionally that I don't even think is excema, no dry patches at all.

But yes, I think that excema is often a food allergy of some sort. You can also buy a probiotic powder in the fridge at the pharmacy called Excema Sheild that you take if you are bfing which may help.

Good luck, its horrible when your babys skin is all red and sore :(
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Hi,

My wee boy had horrid eczema and baby acne, but all that has thankfully cleared up.

Both my doctor and specialist said that it's actually not that common for eczema to be related to a food allergy.

It's a LOT of trial and error, as what works for one baby, may not necessarily work for another.

Be very careful about the skin becoming infected. This was a big issue for us (not sure why?) but as soon as the specialist advised us to use potassium permanganate, we turned a corner and have never looked back.

I was advised to use the HC cream at the first sign of a flare up as it's more effective to 'nip it in the bud' rather than wait till it's a major flare up and you need to use more of the cream.

As you can see, already people receive lots of conflicting advise.... hence the trial and error.

Huge hugs. It can be so hard to see them so uncomfortable.

Here's a before and after pic of Roo, so you can see how quickly it's possible for it to clear up


Nasty weeping skin






and just a few weeks later



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The dermatologist we saw said that only 10-20% of childhood eczema is caused by food allergy/intolerance. It is far more common for the cause to be genetic, and it is linked to a family history of eczema, asthma and/or hayfever.

On derm's advice I restarted some of the foods I'd been eliminating (for 4 months) and saw no deterioration in DDs skin.

Good website (recommeneded by the derm) is dermnetnz.org

As milliemoo said, what works for one baby might not work for another...but, incase it helps...the regime that works well for us is:
lots of emulsifier in the bath, lots of moisturising (I use various things...aqueous, emollient, urea [not on open eczema as it stings]), NO soaps. Hydrocortisone made up as an ointment works better for us than the cream (it's more of a barrier) - We use hydrocortisone on face/scalp and a slightly stronger steroid, advantin, on her body. We use sparingly, but enough to reduce inflammation and prevent infection.

DDs skin is MUCH MUCH better now, she's not woken by it at night time, and we are able to maintain it with the moisturising. The produc xma-ease didn't work for us...(but is a nice moisturiser, albeit expensive!)

If you do a search on here, you'll find a few threads on eczema.    

Good luck - you'll get there with it.
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My youngest boy has eczema....he has intolerances to dairy (milk or cream...cheese, yoghurt etc is fine in small doses) dustmites, peanuts and cats. We were smothering him several times a day in aqueous cream + hydrocortisone when needed and he just wasn't improving.
We stopped the aqueous cream and started using aveeno baby daily moisturising lotion and have seen a huge improvement! Aqueous cream can be drying on some babies skin.
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I find the aqueous makes it worse, we just try to stay on top of it with steriod cream if needed very small dosesand only on the patches, and fatty cream almost every day to keep him moisturised and use nothing in the bath unless he's itchy and red we use pinetarsol. Lewis reacts to pretty much every baby wash.
He has food allergies, but they don't seem to affect his excema worse
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Nat had horrible eczema too - and for her it was food allergies, but it also runs in our family. Best cream ever (for her anyway!) is cetomacrogol cream with 10% glycerine. The pharmacist can make it up for you, or you could ask for it on prescription. A very similar cream is the sorbitol with 10% glycerine which you can get from supermarkets. We also had success with the xma-ease cream, but at $30 for a tiny tube, it's not very sustainable!

Hope something works soon - it's the pits
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Originally posted by JoJames JoJames wrote:

I find the aqueous makes it worse, we just try to stay on top of it with steriod cream if needed very small dosesand only on the patches, and fatty cream almost every day to keep him moisturised and use nothing in the bath unless he's itchy and red we use pinetarsol. Lewis reacts to pretty much every baby wash.
He has food allergies, but they don't seem to affect his excema worse


My little man reacted to everything in the bath too! Not that I use stuff all the time but he has 2 older brothers who love a good bubble bath and I hate to see him miss out. I have found ecostore bubble bath and Organic care 3-in-1 bodywash are great!! He doesn't react at all!!
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I agree with eczema being linked to food allergies. My son had terrible eczema, so bad people would come up to us in the street and ask if he had been burnt. He reacted so badly when I was BF him. At 7 months we found out he was allergic to eggs, wheat, dairy, peanuts, potatoes.....and since eliminating this from my/his diet he is great - like a different boy! He never had that silky smooth baby skin, which made me sad but he is looking great now

We used the hydrocortisone until his skin cleared up, then use aveeno lotion. Also an anti-histamine liquid medicine that we use when hes really bad. When he was itchy, he would scratch and then get an infection which was such a vicious cycle.

Heres a pic of him a few days after we started a treatment that actually worked, so this isnt at his worst.

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We did to the point of open sores - we ended up moving from aqueous cream to lemnis fatty cream to an emulsifier (as the others didnt provide enough moisture) combined with steroid. We also, after seeing a specialist changed from breastmilk to neocate formula, which definately cleared the skin, and since starting solids we have noticed a direct link to egg and dairy - so we avoid both.

It started probably when DD was a few weeks old - bad baby acne, and whole torso, then grew increasingly worse till she was 4-5 months old, then started to slowly get better.

Now her skin is nearly perfect - with eruptions around her knee areas only.

Photo one is during some of her worst
Photo two is one month later (still not 100%)
Photo three is 2 months later and we havent looked back.


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Kim, Bethy's looks a lot like that first pic - and we are saying how cleared up it looks! Just to give you an idea.

A lot of you link allergies with the excema. How long between dropping a food and noticing a difference? We're off the hydrocortisone now so if the excema flares up again I am thinking of dropping something from my diet (likely milk) to see if that makes a difference, but I don't know how long to give it?
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Unfortunately dairy takes a good 2-3 weeks to get completely out of your system We noticed almost complete resolution of eczema & other symptoms within 3 weeks. (Don't forget too that unless you cut out all dairy, including everything that has milk solids, casein etc in it, changing your diet may not be as effective - you probably know that already though!)

The problem is that if it's not dairy, you end up restricting your diet for no reason, and then have to try something else etc etc. If you suspect food allergies, it would be worth getting Bethany tested for reaction. They can do a blood test (RAST) which definitively tells you what she is allergic to.

Good luck - the whole thing is a right PITA!
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It took us a good 3-4 weeks before we noticed a difference to her whole body, but the problem areas and patches started clearing sooner (again it was a mix of finding the RIGHT cream as well as diet change)

Food allergies can be tricky as well. We did the blood testing (egg, wheat, soy and dairy - i think) and it only showed up as an egg allergy, yet dairy definately affects her skin. We did an allergenics hair test - which showed up egg, and a multitude of strange things from mould - diesel - goat hair

It's a definate guessing game, but its just so much better when you finally get it right.

And busymum - that first pic = it ended up getting a lot worse the following week(i have no photos however) and we ended up needing to go on a course of antibiotics to help clear it up, as it was the start of being infected at that stage.
I think we were on antibiotics - a bacterial cream on the sores, a strong steroid after on the sores and any red/thick patches, emulsifyer for whole body - but we got there

I wish you all the luck, and ask away any questions!
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